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TWO (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS) ARRESTED AFTER FATAL CRASH
Riverside CA News for the Inland Empire.Monday, ^ | November 05, 2007 | by Cathy Maestri

Posted on 11/05/2007 2:33:56 PM PST by granite

Two illegal immigrants were arrested Sunday after one allegedly drove drunk and was involved in an accident that killed a Lake Elsinore man; the other helped him flee.

According to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department, the initial investigation indicates that Isaac Flores-Palacios, 32, was driving his employer’s pickup truck west on Lakeshore Drive on Sunday afternoon when a pickup driven by Ben Hernandez, 66, turned left in front of him near Avenue 6. Hernandez was ejected and died at the scene.

Florez-Palacios allegedly left his vehicle and was picked up by his brother-in-law, Javier Delfino-Hernandez, 29, who had been following him. Witnesses described the driver involved in the accident as well as the car that picked him up, which was spotted by a helicopter crew. Ground officers stopped the car and obtained information that identified Flores-Palacios, who had subsequently tried to report his truck as stolen, as the driver involved in the accident; he was detained at a Lake Elsinore address and identified by witnesses.

Flores-Palacios, who lives in Lake Elsinore, was arrested for hit-and-run causing death and driving while intoxicated. Delfino-Hernandez, who lives in Homeland, was arrested for being an accessory; he is also on probation for a previous D.U.I. and had a warrant for his arrest in regard to a deportation order.

Police are continuing to investigate. Anyone with information is asked to call (951) 245-3300.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; illrgals; immigrantlist; immigration; rico
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To: Dane

Is Orace illegal?

And your BS about racism is just that. I don’t want illegal aussies or Irsihmen or Russians here anymore than I want illegal mexicans.


21 posted on 11/05/2007 3:26:52 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Do you think you deserve to go to Mexico or Ireland or Saudi Arabia illegally, lie to them, forge some documents, find a job then bitch and moan when they throw your ass out?

Uh I have no desire to live in Ireland, Mexico, or Saudi Arabia, I want to live in the US, as do a lot of people.

Sorry, but I don't equate crossing the Rio Grande to get a job laying hot tar on a roof or cleaning toilets to such a crime as murder or rape as you do.

22 posted on 11/05/2007 3:28:32 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

I don’t equate them in the least. I told you the criminal deserves hard labor in jail. The Illegal deserves to be deported. How you conflate that is anyone’s guess.


23 posted on 11/05/2007 3:30:23 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
What the hell are you thinking? We are a sovereign nation, not a damn welfare system to the world.

A question? So to you a person who takes a job building wealth such as building a house or business from a non-government contractor is welfare in your eyes?

24 posted on 11/05/2007 3:32:21 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

It matters not what color Orace McKee is as an American citizen. Do the crime,serve the time, which for DUI does NOT include deportation if you are a citizen.
So what’s your problem with white people?


25 posted on 11/05/2007 3:35:13 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: All

Unfortunately we have neither the time, nor the resources to discern between the hard working dishwasher and the repeat criminals. The only solution is to DEPORT EVERY PERSON WHO COMES INTO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, then screen them as they try to re-enter LEGALLY.....


26 posted on 11/05/2007 3:36:48 PM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Dane

Yeah, those hard working SS card and driver’s license forgers are also highly productive.


27 posted on 11/05/2007 3:37:09 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Dane

Que?

You are comparing apples to oranges.

A crime is still a crime, its true, but in the former case, the crime was preventable by stopping the two clowns at the border.

That’s what this thread’s all about.

Now, if you want to hijack this thread and talk about what the esteemed Mr. McKee wasn’t put in the pokey on the third DUI, and also had his license revoked, and had his insurance company notified, that’s another matter.


28 posted on 11/05/2007 3:40:04 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Dane

I see the anti illegal debate continuing. I guess you can’t say the word “illegal”?.


29 posted on 11/05/2007 3:41:18 PM PST by seemoAR
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To: granite; neverdem; firebrand; Clemenza; rmlew; Yehuda

Isn’t it wonderfull that our NY governor SPITzer wants to give these people licenses so they can drive?


30 posted on 11/05/2007 3:44:26 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: RinaseaofDs
Now, if you want to hijack this thread and talk about what the esteemed Mr. McKee wasn’t put in the pokey on the third DUI, and also had his license revoked, and had his insurance company notified, that’s another matter

Hijacking? I'm not hijacking anything. IMO, I am holding up a mirror and some people on this thread don't like what they see.

31 posted on 11/05/2007 3:48:01 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: pissant
Yeah, those hard working SS card and driver’s license forgers are also highly productive.

Huh, and where was I promoting that? What I was promoting is the idea is that you can't smear an ethnic group on the actions of one.

I am not the one condemming all WASP's on the actions of one, such as Orace McKee.

32 posted on 11/05/2007 3:51:56 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

I did not say one word about the ethnicity. Boot em all out.


33 posted on 11/05/2007 3:57:31 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Cacique

I was gonna ask if they were driving with NY’s legally illegal drivers licenses.


34 posted on 11/05/2007 3:59:32 PM PST by Nick Thimmesch
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To: granite

Gee, the Chicago Sun-Crimes editor says that we have it all wrong! Barf alert..

Facts show immigrants don’t deserve crime blame

November 5, 2007

Illegal immigrants get blamed for everything: rape, murder, robbery, you name it.

They are actually quite law-biding, as much as the rest of us, a Sun-Times report reveals.

They account for about 3 percent of the state’s population and an equal percentage of inmates in Cook County jails. Less than 4 percent of adults in Illinois prisons have been identified as illegal immigrants.

The perception holds that more illegal immigrants equals more crime. That view is bolstered by lies told by anti-illegal immigrant groups like the Minutemen. They claim 64,000 U.S. citizens have been killed by illegal immigrants since Sept. 11, 2001. That would mean more than half the murders in the United States have been committed by illegal immigrants.

That’s ludicrous.

Besides, the numbers don’t add up. The FBI doesn’t even track the data of offenders or victims based on their citizenship status. The data does show that nearly half of those arrested for murder or non-negligent manslaughter in 2006 were white. Only 1 percent of “criminal aliens” were in jail for murder in 2005, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Sadly, people tend to believe this anti-immigrant hype. They always have. One recent survey found most Americans believe immigrants boost crime. These same claims have been hurled at the Irish, Italians and Chinese at some point in America’s history. Today we scapegoat Mexicans.

We don’t blame all middle-age white guys for the crimes of John Wayne Gacy. We don’t blame all black men for John Allen Muhammad’s Beltway sniper-fest. We shouldn’t blame all illegal immigrants, either.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/635439,CST-EDT-edit05b.article#


35 posted on 11/05/2007 4:02:02 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Dane
To paraphrase Gertrude Stein, a crime, is a crime, is a crime.

FINALLY! That's why they call them ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Know what, Dane? The local sheriffs of small counties do nothing but attempt to handle the overwhelming crimes of illegal aliens. The homegrown citizen criminal population now has free reign, thanks to your blessed travelers. Our criminals are probably selling the dope your criminals grow in our forests. Good job, Dane.

Thanks for the ping.

36 posted on 11/05/2007 4:05:45 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Dane
Hey Dane,

There is an epidemic in this country of illegals getting drunk and plowing down people in their cars. The reason you here more about it, is because there are more and more of them everyday.

Drunk driving is a sign of being "macho" in Latin America.

37 posted on 11/05/2007 4:07:35 PM PST by Dengar01
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To: pissant
I did not say one word about the ethnicity. Boot em all out.

Well then dear, given your rhetoric, you would have booted out Andy Grove(one of the founders of Intel) in the 1940's and who without his acumen, we would not have this conversation in cyberspace.

But what the hey all immigrants are evil to you, no matter their contributions.

38 posted on 11/05/2007 4:10:18 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dengar01
Drunk driving is a sign of being "macho" in Latin America.

And you know this how?

39 posted on 11/05/2007 4:12:27 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
It's because of you and the rest of the "they all come here to work" people, that this epidemic of illegal drunks crashing into people is growing by the day.

These illegals sure all come here to work. Some come here to rape, sell drugs, get drunk and plow through people...

25% of the US Prison population is illegal aliens the peaceful vegetable farmers who come here to work.

I'd love to see your opinion if an illegal crashed into one of your family members and killed them. I bet you'd be singing another tune.

40 posted on 11/05/2007 4:12:52 PM PST by Dengar01
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