Posted on 10/10/2007 9:13:17 PM PDT by rudy45
Every DA/SA semi that I have shot (SIG P232, P226, P229, P239) has had a decocker but not a safety.
Is that setup true for all DA/SAs? That is, do all DA/SAs have decockers but no safeties? Or are there exceptions? What reason would a manufacturer have for putting a safety on a DA/SA? Wouldn't it be redundant with the safety feature of the long initial trigger pull?
Another question: do all SAO semis have safeties but not decockers, or are there exceptions? Again, if there are, what reason would a manufacturer have for putting a decocker on a SAO semi?
Final question: how correct am I in asserting that, on a semi, safeties and decockers are mutually exclusive? That is, on any semiauto I could expect to see either a safety without a decocker (as in the 1911), or a decocker without a safety (as in SIG SAUER P232), or neither of them (?a DAO semi?). However, I should NEVER expect to see BOTH a decocker AND a safety on the same semi? Is that a true statement?
Thanks.
Laugh of the day, thanks :)
-ccm
Just don't shoot yourself in the foot with your .45 when you go off half-cocked, Rudy.
JUST KIDDING!
(...psst, I think he's armed.)
Cheers!
Huh? I’ll just quit drinking, and do the dishes!
Many of these type of pistols come with the option of a safety or a decocker, but I've never seen or heard of one with both. Like you, the notion of both on one weapon makes very little sense to me.
I have seen some pistols which had a safety that also served as a decocker. I believe the Walther PPK fit that description.
Squantos, do you know if theres a mechanical firing pin block when hammer is 'resting' in de-cock position? I assume there is, but we know about ASSumptions...
I think Sig uses differnt levers but has both on the 220 series?
Although I like the feature, I would NEVER trust it, always point safely whenever the hammer drops...
Makarov are the similar but improved.
Every semi-auto has a different configuration, mostly by manufacturer.Decockers are handy because after you decock it is chambered and Double
Action or by pulling back on the hammer it goes into Single Action.
Flip down to decock and up for safe.
the EAA witness has both. the advantage of both is having the advantage of the choice when carrying. you can carry unchambered, hammer down, or cocked and locked.
All decockers block the firing pin , some until the safety / decocking combo lever is off others until the hammer is dropped and then they return in line if the lever is spring loaded and returns to fire position. The latter has a firing pin drop feature at that point to preclude a dropped weapon from firing........until trigger is pulled etc
When the Beretta clones aka taurus lever is in decock position it is blocked.
Thanks. If this semi is double action only, why would it need a decocker? When would the hammer ever be cocked, and in fact could it ever be cocked at all?
My EAA Witness, and the other CZ-75 clones and derivatives are DA/SA, and have a safety, but no decocker. Seems kind of silly I know, because the only way to fire it DA is to manually drop the hammer, as one could do with a 1911 type SA, with a live round in the chamber. Otherwise, the thing just operates in the SA mode, and must be carried Cocked and locked. However the DA feature would be useful in the situation of a round that fails to light off on the first strike. Just pull the trigger and you get another try, as many as you want. Could be important, but if the second try fails, I'm racking that slide and getting the round out of there. (after a suitable wait of course, but on the range, in extreme circumstances I'll live with the possibility of the round going off after it's out of the weapon)
Sure! Got my 12 gauge right here. PULL !! :)
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