Posted on 10/09/2007 2:22:17 PM PDT by ml/nj
That's because 93% are not sick.
Much of the cost of insurance can be controlled or lowered by allowing people to choose what their plans cover rather than government officials mandating coverages they not only don't want, but don't need. Government has been tinkering with WHAT plans cover for decades and raising costs as a result. Do elderly women who have had their tubes tied need maternity coverage? They must pay for it anyway in many places, and there are other mandated coverages people would opt not to have or pay for that government says we can't choose, they make those decisions! They have been meddling rates up for a long time.
Tort reform and reforming malpractice insurance could also lower costs. But that's not what the socialized medicine advocates want...they want to control every aspect of our lives, down to telling us what we can eat, and what we must not smoke!
Someone assure me that government can do the job.... Show me one agency that is run efficiently.
Your anecdote about the MPP illustrates an important point. (Other) Canadians rail about “two-tier” health care, and queue jumping — meanwhile we actually have at least 3 tiers for health care.
One for the rich (hello Belinda Stronich) — who can afford to travel to the U.S. for instant treatment.
Another for Parliamentarians, medical system insiders, and anyone receiving Workers’ Compensation payments (to save another branch of government money).
Most of us are languishing in line down on the third tier.
Here is another anecdote.
Our local conservative talk show host Lowell Green had to go to Gatineau, Quebec last Friday for a MRI.
He’s having debilitating back pain. He was told the wait in Ontario for a MRI would be 3-4 months, so he paid $725 plus tax to have it done right away.
On Tuesday, some caller actually denied we have more than one tier of health care. He agreed with Lowell that Lowell was able to jump the queue because he could afford the $725+, but was adamant that there was no multi-level health care here.
Wasn’t there a supreme court judgement on private insurance some time ago?
What ever happened to that?
I sure hope this thread is helping to inform Americans of what they are in for if the ever get “Hillary Care”.
“And when have government workers been more efficient than someone who actually can be replaced if not doing the job?”
Don’t worry; the “private” practice will be UNIONIZED, to ensure they can’t get their sorry $@!$##!@$ kicked out - and get more money for nothing.
We need to get rid of unions (never mind various fascist regulations) to prove conclusively that free-wheeling privatization would work.
Not enough people will ever read this thread - certainly not the facsists and communists who are simply “true believers” who won’t ever hear anything that contradicts their true belief.
Not enough people will ever read this thread - certainly not the facsists and communists who are simply “true believers” who won’t ever hear anything that contradicts their true belief.
Good point — it seems that the MSM has buried that story.
My understanding is the Quebec government wanted to shut down private clinics, like the one Green went to. It went to the SCOC — who ruled that people have a right to access to health care. If the private system couldn’t provide that care — then private services have to be allowed. (The Court based their decision on the Quebec Bill of Rights rather than the Constitution — otherwise, the ruling would have applied everywhere.)
One of the Justices said: “Access to a waiting list is not access to health care.” That’s it in a nutshell.
Maybe, but your Thanksgiving Holiday is coming up soon.
If we can spread the information far enough, and fast enough, it might make for a good dinner argument between the knowing and the un-knowing.
Which, at the same time, means it won’t look good for Hillary, or the Rats in general.
;-)
I wonder why entrepreneurs are not flooding the market?
Or, perhaps they are, in Quebec.
See you tomorrow.
Assuming I don't need health care between now and then. ;-)
No nightmares! Thanks Meek!
I didn't think the majority of comments I saw there were idiotic, at least about the situation in Canada. People seem to be making reasonable comments that many of the points in the letter I posted are not true; and they are certainly correct that there is no way to verify anything about the letter.
ML/NJ
Thats already been a reality in America. Its called “Free Care.” Illegals pay nothing and people with insurance have to subsidized the cost. Sadly its almost like we already have socialized medicine.
My mother watched in horror living in Delaware Mexicans (most likely illegal) inside a thrift store pickpocket a wallet and checkbook right out of a handbag of a a poor young women with a baby running quickly out the door. Its ironic because this poor young women started screaming afterwords "What am I going to do if I have to take my baby to the hospital? I have nothing now?"
Other shoppers helped her look in the parking lot only to find her wallet and checkbook emptied out on the ground.
I wonder how many other people have similar stories but hesitate to tell them because it is not politically correct?
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I stumbled upon this blog searching for info on US-Canada social security treaties... as an American who emigrated to Canada, I am surprised at how many Canadians take their health care system for granted. The Canadian health care system is one of the best in the world. Nearly all western European nations have a universal health care system - your desires to join the ranks of second and third world countries by destroying national health care is shortsighted.
We are very suspicious of people that move from America to Canada. I live in Massachusetts that is saturated with hardcore liberals that are ecstatic about the idea of living under a socialist style government.
Three things to me that would make it OK for you to emigrate
1. You love Canada and her people
2. You relocated with your job for employment
3. You have family in Canada and want to be near them.
Quite frankly the only two types of Americans other than those three examples above that move to Canada are liberals that hate America that even Canadians have a hard time with and people that think government should be a cradle to grave entitlement system for them.
I am an American. My mother was born in Newfoundland having 10 brothers in sisters. My uncle and my Aunt both almost died waiting for life saving procedures. I believe I have a right to be concerned even though I love Canada but hate socialism.
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