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Secessionists meeting in Tennessee (Vermont Libs threatening secession)
yahoo news (AP) ^ | wed oct 3 2007 | BILL POOVEY

Posted on 10/03/2007 8:25:39 AM PDT by pianomikey

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. - In an unlikely marriage of desire to secede from the United States, two advocacy groups from opposite political traditions — New England and the South — are sitting down to talk.

Tired of foreign wars and what they consider right-wing courts, the Middlebury Institute wants liberal states like Vermont to be able to secede peacefully.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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To: pianomikey

actually this is what the European Elites want to do to “curtail the excessive power of the USA”.

(see also that old “Amerika” miniseris)

They want to break up the USA into managable blocks.

The left calls this a conference, Americans call this treason.


61 posted on 10/03/2007 10:34:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

“how many would run like hell when they found out just what the cost of their freedom really is?”
You mean the next batch of illegal aliens will be Vermonters?


62 posted on 10/03/2007 10:44:18 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: pianomikey

Forget secession, that doesn’t seem to work (it’s bloody and messy, costs thousands of lives, uniforms, bullets the whole thing is ugly). Let’s try expulsion from the union, 49 states voting to throw VT out! That will work ! Much cleaner.


63 posted on 10/03/2007 10:54:27 AM PDT by central_va
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To: central_va; pianomikey
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64 posted on 10/03/2007 11:04:57 AM PDT by davidlachnicht ("IF WE'RE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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To: central_va

If I lived in New England I’d already have a restraining order against VT in the works, and I’d be busy be throwing their crap out the window onto the front lawn.
Either that, or send in a crew of Blackwater contractors to “clean things up” and then rename the state “New Myanmar”.


65 posted on 10/03/2007 11:13:33 AM PDT by RedQuill
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To: RedQuill
Like I said, expulsion not secession.

" If the state doesn't fit, then you must make a split!"

66 posted on 10/03/2007 11:18:49 AM PDT by central_va
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To: pianomikey

I’ll take the side with the border security and the guns. Everything else should just fall into place.


67 posted on 10/03/2007 11:27:16 AM PDT by incredulous joe (Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle.)
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To: pianomikey
I wish they would go....we could decrease radically what we spend on illegals, they would all flock to Vermont and the like and our happy country would be on the mends again...

just think ...all the homosexuals and the druggies would move there....

all the welfare queens.....

all the perverts as well.....

all the wimpy men ...

I say we all chip in to help them seceed....

68 posted on 10/03/2007 11:34:38 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
and we do realize who would be left in the Real USA?..all the workers and taxpayers and patriots....

I wanna be with them!

69 posted on 10/03/2007 11:36:39 AM PDT by cherry
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To: penowa

To paraphrase your previous post: “You disagree with me, therefore ur a big dummy.”

LOL, that’s deep, son.

So you haven’t noticed that the second biggest chunk of the internet (after pr0n, of course) is made up of websites which complain about how everyone is being oppressed by the US government?


70 posted on 10/03/2007 11:40:10 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: cherry

Why would they go to vermont? As long as free programs remain, they need to be paid for. Vermont can no more support a welfare alone than Mexico can. The programs would continue here in the USA unless we cut the country to ribbons to get rid of the blue states. I think there are better ways.


71 posted on 10/03/2007 11:41:15 AM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: pianomikey

An attempt to put this idea into action will result in the election of the nations second POTUS “Lincoln”.


72 posted on 10/03/2007 11:55:36 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Constantine XIII
"So you haven’t noticed that the second biggest chunk of the internet (after pr0n, of course) is made up of websites which complain about how everyone is being oppressed by the US government?"

Why would I notice that. I'm not the one reading their leftist bilge. You are, "sonny."

If you are so out of it that you don't know what happened on the floor of the Senate yesterday in regard to free speech, I can't help you.

73 posted on 10/03/2007 12:01:37 PM PDT by penowa
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To: penowa

I must have missed it, but then I have a life outside of the internet. Maybe you could, I dunno, provide a link to this earth-shaking news, since I don’t see it any live threads discussing it. :p


74 posted on 10/03/2007 12:09:25 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Wuli
An attempt to put this idea into action will result in the election of the nations second POTUS “Lincoln”.

Well, THAT almost changes my mind about the whole thing. The question is, is there even a Lincoln LEFT in this country? Who knows? Too risky though, I'd rather keep our country's borders the way it is. We've got enough threats from the outside without worrrying about coming apart from the inside.

75 posted on 10/03/2007 12:10:09 PM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: pianomikey

“We’ve got enough threats from the outside without worrrying about coming apart from the inside.”

Which is exactly why secession will be opposed - enlargement of what’s “outside” at the expense of THE NATION.


76 posted on 10/03/2007 12:13:45 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: penowa

The last time I saw J. Michael Hill of this article was around the time of the Waco burning.


77 posted on 10/03/2007 1:54:14 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: JackRyanCIA
Well the yanks discussed it first, most notably during the War of 1812. If they do go, and the South goes as well, the blasted union will still go on. Perhaps the Capitol will move. But it's inevitable. The Framers I imagine even saw this, evidence being the loose confederation first established. Put too much centralized power in one place and eventually you'll have this. Some groups don't like the other groups. And it required force and the deaths of hundreds of thousands to keep Mr. Chase's tax base together the first time.

As President Jefferson said, if they choose to go let them go in peace. As it should have been the first time round

78 posted on 10/03/2007 3:27:09 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: pianomikey
As long as free programs remain, they need to be paid for. Vermont can no more support a welfare alone than Mexico can.

True

The programs would continue here in the USA unless we cut the country to ribbons to get rid of the blue states.

Maybe a little naive.

Do you really think it's only blue state representatives who support welfare and pork?

Get rid of the blue states and you'll see how quickly the red state representatives change their tune.

79 posted on 10/03/2007 4:10:11 PM PDT by x
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To: pianomikey
They can't be allowed to leave. This country is about freedom. That means being forced to do things you don't want to do or stay in relationships you want to leave. This is about liberty. That means you have to sacrifice your individual "freedoms" for the good of society as a whole.

If everyone did this, they'd self-organize into groups that got along and thought alike. That's segretation and that's wrong. A more perfect union means that you have to be forced to live with people you are completely opposed to politically, largely because of where you happened to be born.

Yes, I am just being sarcastic. Secession is fine with me. I just figured I'd write that Orwellian BS because I'm sure someone will come along and earnestly express such beliefs.

80 posted on 10/03/2007 8:24:12 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Jorge Bush: In Iraq to make the world safe for Mexico to take over North America.)
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