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Posted on 09/24/2007 7:09:10 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
Just weeks ahead of its public launch, Apple Inc. has updated the minimum system requirements for its next-generation Leopard operating system to exclude 800MHz PowerPC-based Macs, AppleInsider has learned.
The Cupertino-based company has yet to officially announce the hardware requirements to run Leopard, due out in October, but had long stated in developer documentation that the software would require "an Intel processor or a PowerPC G4 (800MHz or faster) or G5 processor."
(Excerpt) Read more at appleinsider.com ...
=========According to people familiar with the matter, engineers for the company recently determined that Leopard installs on 800MHz PowerPC G4 systems ran "too slow."===========
Now let's try to cover all bases here, because there's no question that apple makes better code than microsoft does.
A. These engineers are lying. And not lying for the reason you may be thinking I'm saying that, but for the reason that it will give Apple the excuse of "well it runs too slow, so we don't want to support it".
B. The engineers are leaving out the whole story, that is the OS has been optimized for 64 bit platforms.(G5 and X86-64) so it's slower on the 32 bit processors. But it's adequate for a processor that's over the 800mhz range.
C Apple really did produce a piece of bloatware here.
D Someone got a quote wrong somewhere. Apple is going to make the cut off in the 800mhz range but it has nothing to do with performance. It's just how Apple runs it's business. There's no secret that Jobs is a control freak. His products have reflected this for generations.
I'm thinking it's most likely a combination of B and C. Apple's code isn't going to be bloated the way MS has mastered, but it isn't going to be linux quality either. And the optimization issue seems a common sense call.
And of course, there could be other reasons as well.
Hey as long as it can run an Aero desktop and an ever present UAC then a little bloat is okay.
See Apple and MS are two peas in a pod.
Title: “...to exclude 800MHz systems...”
Article: “...or a PowerPC G4 (800MHz or faster)...”
Seems accuracy is just an old-fashioned concept these days.
Given that the value of an 800Mhz G4 is about $250 for a desktop and less than $350 for a laptop, anyone still running one is not a customer Jobs wants anyways.
Also, Leopard is *supposed* to be optimized heavily for 64 bit operations, and beyond that for the Intel Macs.
^^^^^^^^^^See Apple and MS are two peas in a pod.^^^^^^^^^^^^
Typically microsoft copies Apple, so......... not really.
Are there 800Mhz G5’s out there?
Oh wait, you bought a new dual core intel based 800mhz imac?
I........ don’t catch your drift. It seems to me that article titles are truncated, something that isn’t new.
Like I said..... a combination of B and C.
Macs last. If they don’t obsolete them at some point, the potential exists to have 10+ year old machines still in common use in the near-future. At some point you have to focus your efforts on the newer boxes and newer versions to keep security and compatibility with the rest of the world.
That said, there’s a 450 mhz iMac under this roof, and I’m typing on a 450 mhz K6-3 box myself. Older stuff is fine if you’re willing to deal with using what was recent, current, or introduced around the same basic timeframe.
I only mean to say that one passage says it will run on anything 800MHz and up, but the title says it excludes 800MHz systems.
I know, it’s a pedantic point, but either Leopard will run on an 800MHz system or it will not. This article says both that it will and will not.
Perhaps we should ask Schroedinger’s cat.
Phew my Powerbook is a 1.33G so it should run fine. My Wifes, Mothers, and Mother in laws systems are all well above mine. Well be buying the family pack when it comes out.
Macs last. If they don't obsolete them at some point, the potential exists to have 10+ year old machines still in common use in the near-future. At some point you have to focus your efforts on the newer boxes and newer versions to keep security and compatibility with the rest of the world. That said, there's a 450 mhz iMac under this roof, and I'm typing on a 450 mhz K6-3 box myself.:') Funny you should mention that... I'm back to using my 1996 PowerMac 7600, which was purchased as a refurb back when; I've updated it with a 1 Ghz G4 Sonnet Crescendo, but I want to re-update the video, as the old update (five or so year old Radeon 7000 Mac edition) doesn't wanna work now.
I’d be surprised too.
“Typically microsoft copies Apple”
Not when viewed from the point of market share... so..
E) 800Mhz processors simply are not fast enough to run a modern operating system with all of its features and functions.
Some people expect way too much legacy support.
I'm with you on that one. If you want the bells and whistles of the newest operating systems, there's a price to pay eventually. I have a 533MHz G4 that I may or may not upgrade to 1GHz. It still runs fine on earlier versions, and there are some tasks that don't need my G5 or my wife's MacBook.
How long has it been since a processor was manufactured below 800 MHz?
I plan on installing Leopard on my 867 MHz G4 Powerbook 12” Aluminum, and then I’m going to do my best to optimize it for best performance.
And I figure I’ll be able to do it, because Apple’s estimates for lowest supported speed have always tended to be on the high side for what actually works fine.
And if it doesn’t work as well as I like, I’ll think seriously about upgrading to something newer.
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