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*** The OFFICIAL Weekend Singles Thread *** September 14-16 2007 - Saving and Investing
September 14, 2007 | WFTR

Posted on 09/14/2007 3:18:34 PM PDT by WFTR

Greetings, and Welcome to another Weekend Singles' Thread.

I've been planning all week to do one theme this weekend, and I realized just a few minutes ago that the theme that I planned is a week early. Furthermore, the discussion that I wanted to start was one that Dave wanted to join, and he won't be here this weekend. Because my timing would be wrong for the original theme and because I'd like to let Dave participate, I'm going to change topics at the last minute. (My apologies to the other hosts.) If things seem disjointed and unorganized, there's a good reason. I was confused and am putting together a different idea at the last minute.

This week's topic will be saving and investing. As always, participation is completely voluntary, but I want to emphasize that point when we're talking about money. The goal here is not to put anyone on the spot. What I hope we can do is talk about things in a way that lets people pick up bits of information that can help them without feeling embarrassed. I've written a bunch of the standard questions, but feel free to talk about any aspect of the subject that you find interesting or ask any questions that you want to ask.

How much time do you spend on investing your money? How long have you been investing? Do you have a modest amount in a 401k that you invest following pretty normal ideas of diversification or do you like to day trade taking big risks for big rewards?

How well do you understand investing and how the process works? Do you wish that you understood more? If so, what are you going to do to educate yourself? Do you ever watch financial shows or listen to them on the radio? Do you enjoy them?

Do you think investing is different for singles than it is for married people? Do you accept more risk as a single or do you accept less risk? A single person doesn't have a spouse who's going to argue about money, but do you have someone who knows how you are investing your money and who likes to talk about investing with you? If you were married, how much would you want to discuss investing with your spouse?

If you'd like to tell us, what are your financial goals? Do you feel that you can reach those goals?


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To: WFTR
Most of my holiday experience of accomodation are apartments or hotel rooms in the Greek Islands mainly self catering apartments which although we did not intend to eat in with a self catering apartment you do not basic cooking facilities plus a fridge which at least means you can have cold drinks and get a snack for lunch or breakfast you want to. If you are there for 14 days it is also nice to do a full English breakfast a couple of times.

Here is the holiday aparments I stayed in, in Crete


41 posted on 09/15/2007 6:22:36 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: WFTR
I think the first question is one at least for me that I would have to say unless I faced with situation I am not sure how I would react or choose the first option sounds the one that fits me best.

The second question I think I would choose the mountain retreat or maybe a luxury villa on the beach. I have always stayed in apartments or hotel rooms so a villa sounds a great idea. Not swimming I would not mind if it had a pool or not but I suspect those that I was holidaying with would insist on one. I have found it often much more expensive to get accommodation with a pool than without though most travel companies negotiate the use of a pool at local hotels or apartments if your one does not have one at no extra cost.

42 posted on 09/15/2007 6:27:39 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: WFTR
Now the cell phone or what we call a mobile phone in Britain.

I have several, my main 2 are old technology and all my are pay as you I do not have any monthly contracts.

I have a Siemens A55 and a MC60, also an Ericsson's K500i which does have a reasonable camera but I rather take this phone out of the house as it looks more expensive than it is and is in fact a second hand replacement for the original one I had that was stolen so because it looks more expensive I just use it indoors as an alarm clock - crazy I know - it does not even have a current sim card in it.

The MC60 has a very basic camera which I never use and bought the phone second hand on ebay for about 20 dollars. The A55 also bought second hand on ebay for about 15 dollars and has no camera.

The MC60
Click here for details

I mainly use mine for receiving calls so that dad can keep in touch with me when I am out. I make the occasional call and text (I used to text GretchenM - God rest her soul)

43 posted on 09/15/2007 6:41:45 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: 38special; aft_lizard; abishai; A knight without armor; Alberta's Child; Allegra; Amityschild; ...
Saturday Night Singles

Please freepmail DaveLoneRanger to be added / removed

Yes, I'm running late tonight. I was cleaning a gecko cage and then took a walk before supper. I'm afraid that I completely forgot the ping.

I've been informed that Wednesday, September 19, is National Talk Like a Pirate Day. Mind you, you'd have to offer me Kierra Knightley back before she became anorexic to persuade me to talk like a pirate, but this occasion inspires a few bonus questions.

1. If you were a pirate, what would you name your flagship?

2. Where would you rather sail, the Caribbean, the South Pacific, or do you have another idea?

3. What kind and color of bird would you keep on your shoulder?

44 posted on 09/15/2007 5:41:50 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Old_Mil
Internet, text, voicemail, email, etc.

You're one of the first on this thread to join the modern world of using a cell phone for more than just making calls. I'm afraid many of us just make and receive calls.

On your other two answers, I completely agree.

45 posted on 09/15/2007 5:44:42 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: WFTR

Texting does not seem as popular in the States as it is in Britain, it is not unusual for people in Britain to send in excess of 300 text messages a month.


46 posted on 09/15/2007 5:52:04 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: DollyCali
Dolly,

I hope you had fun at the game. I can imagine that Friday evenings are starting to get a nice chill at this time of the year in your neighborhood. I remember when the chill would first start to hit back in the Tennessee mountains when I was a teenager.

In one sense, I like your idea of teaching this topic in school, but in another way, I am wary. I think we too often fall into the habit of believing that the government should teach us everything that we need to survive in life, and adding another of life's essentials to the list seems to be a step in the wrong direction. The other problem I see is that too many young people may not remember anything that they hear at that time if they see no immediate application. I'm not sure that I would have remembered that kind of class by the time I had graduated from high school and been through seven years of college. I agree that people need to have that understanding. I just don't know the best way to give it to them.

I can see you as more of the rescuer than the vigilante. My training in industrial firefighting really hasn't focused on rescuing people. We have a drill on going into a building every few years, but most of our work is outside firefighting. Still, I'm more qualified to lead people from a building than I am to fight terrorists. Even so, in my heart, I'd rather attack the terrorists. Unlike those who are wiser and less passionate than I am, I'd even prefer to take them out with a baseball bat instead of a gun. Dealing with hurting or killing another person might be difficult later, but there's a part of me that would love to go crazy against one of these mutts.

Using the cell phone as your timepiece is clever. I typically don't take a watch into my workout room when I work out, but I take my cell phone. I've actually used it to get the time exactly as you describe, but I didn't think of that use at all. My compliments for a unique way of interpreting the question.

Bill

47 posted on 09/15/2007 5:58:49 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: snugs
I do have an ISA which up to a certainly amount each year you are allowed in the UK to take out tax free.

Your ISA sounds very much like what Americans have called a 401k or IRA. The 401k is something we have through our employers. We can put money directly into the account from our pay, and the money never shows as income. Because the money never shows, we pay no taxes on it. In addition, the money can grow through investments without our paying any taxes on the growth. The drawback is that we aren't allowed to withdraw the money until we are 59 1/2 years old. If we make early withdrawals, we pay a penalty. Once we turn 59 1/2, we can withdraw the money as we need it and will pay taxes on it at that time. The idea is that we will have less income at that time because we are retired, so the taxes on that money will be less then than now. An IRA is similar except that people can set up an IRA independent of their employer. Unfortunately, people who have a 401k at work are not allowed to contribute to an IRA also.

Is your pension scheme tax free as well? I would think that they would allow that money to be tax free as well as the ISA money. Your pension scheme sounds somewhat similar to how some of our 401k plans work. Many of the big American companies will match a certain percentage of what people put into their 401k plan.

Bill

48 posted on 09/15/2007 6:07:55 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Your big day coming up. Talk like a pirate day.


49 posted on 09/15/2007 6:08:31 PM PDT by PinkDolphin (Tyranny does not cure racism.)
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To: snugs
The luxury place at the beach seems to be a popular choice here. When I thought of the question, I was just thinking of what would be perfect for me, the mountains, as compared to something that I wouldn’t like at all, the city.
50 posted on 09/15/2007 6:10:17 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: snugs

You’re the second person who is modern enough to text. I’ve never learned how to text on my phone, and I’m not even certain how the text feature works or whether my plan allows me to text.


51 posted on 09/15/2007 6:12:05 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: snugs

I think teenagers in the United States text a great deal. I find it too frustrating to try to type using a keypad. I love typing on a regular keyboard, but I would go crazy trying to say anything worthwhile picking letters with only 9 keys.


52 posted on 09/15/2007 6:13:39 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: WFTR
I got in the papers on Wednesday, attended the FReedom Concert. They must have anticipated some troublemakers cause 4 times prior to getting into the concert security asked to see my signs. One tried to tell me I couldn' t take the signs in but his partner looked at him like he was nuts and said, there is nothing wrong with this sign, it says "Our Troops, My heroes.

After I got in I gave my signs to some others in the audience. I gave that sign to a cute as a button little girl, the rest went to people who I would be willing to bet are either FReepers or GOE'ers

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53 posted on 09/15/2007 6:18:19 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: WFTR

Same here and the mode where it guesses what you are going to type I find even worse.


54 posted on 09/15/2007 6:55:42 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: mware

Thanks for making the effort to show your support. America needs people who are willing to take a stand.


55 posted on 09/15/2007 7:07:37 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: WFTR
1. Aye, maties, I'm not sure. Here’s a name generator. None of them grabbed me, though.

http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=pirateshipnamer

Maybe something noble sounding like Liberty Queen or Ranger Queen. Or maybe something more amusing like the Limping Dutchman.

2. The Mediteranean seems more interesting.

3. Shiver me timbers! I don't want some stinking bird pooping on my shoulder! I should make you walk the gangplank for even suggesting it.

56 posted on 09/15/2007 7:29:27 PM PDT by generally (Ask me about FReepers Folding@Home)
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To: generally
You do the accent very well. Liberty Queen sounds nice, but the Mediterranean would be a tough place to be a pirate back then with all of the big nations' fleets right in the area. I guess there would be more to plunder there.

Bill

57 posted on 09/15/2007 7:48:18 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: mware

You rock Martha! just got a few pings from luvw at the canteen from the events today in DC.. awesome


58 posted on 09/15/2007 7:54:02 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: mware

Hey!! Very cool ... was it fun?


59 posted on 09/15/2007 8:15:35 PM PDT by DancesWithCats
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To: DancesWithCats
Yeah, I had a great time. It was so cool to be in an arena with 15.000 conservatives.
60 posted on 09/15/2007 8:19:06 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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