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1 posted on 08/03/2007 2:09:47 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
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Oy Vey


2 posted on 08/03/2007 2:11:37 PM PDT by Borges
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[A] recent study published in the British Journal of Urology, which showed uncircumcised men had four times more sensitivity, as a better measure.

Dr. Robert Van Howe, a pediatrician at Marquette General Hospital in Michigan and one of the author’s of the urology journal’s study, said that the findings in his study had more relevance because of the larger number of patients involved and the greater number of areas on the penis measured.

He urges parents not to circumcise their children, but to allow the children to make that decision when they reach age 18. At that point, he said, only three out of every 1,000 males elect to be circumcised.

But both Payne and Reinisch criticized the Van Howe’s study, which was funded by the anti-circumcision group the National Organization of Circumcision Information Research Centers, as biased.

“Scientific study must be conducted dispassionately and without bias. The motivation of this group is highly suspect,” said Payne.

Van Howe rejected the notion of bias in his study.

“The study was based on an objective finding,” he said. “There’s no way you can change what a person felt or didn’t feel.”

But Reinisch said researchers could very easily have affected data because it was apparent to researchers which men were circumcised and which were not. She also pointed to the fact that men in the Van Howe’s study were not aroused at the time of measurement as a possible source for the difference.

As for the failure to measure the foreskin’s sensitivity, Reinisch said that was irrelevant, as it rolls back from the glans during arousal.

“The foreskin’s job is to cover the penis and protect it,” she said. “Its job is not to be a part of the sensitivity.”

“Of course nerve endings are lost,” she said of circumcision. “The question is: Does it make any difference in satisfaction? In pleasure?”


3 posted on 08/03/2007 2:15:11 PM PDT by allmendream
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Must have been a VERY slow news day.


4 posted on 08/03/2007 2:15:38 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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Never “met” an uncircumcised man. Seen pics, that is all.


5 posted on 08/03/2007 2:17:38 PM PDT by synbad600
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Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Circumcision may not reduce sensation.
6 posted on 08/03/2007 2:20:20 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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Can’t tell everyone how scared for life I have felt both physically and mentally, by having a circumcision that happened years before my earliest memory.

There’s an agenda here. I have no idea what it is other than that some people seem to be very upset that we seem to have adopted a Jewish norm.

In the days of the Israelites and their wandering through the desert, I believe this was a health issue. Today it could be argued that it no longer is. Perhaps it isn’t. Perhaps it is and we don’t realize it.

I don’t see any harm in the practice whatsoever. I’m sure I’ll hear from some who are convinced that there is and think I need to be.


9 posted on 08/03/2007 2:22:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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Great News!!! By the way, how does one sign up for a study like that?


17 posted on 08/03/2007 2:28:53 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("By the simple exercise of our will, we can exert a power for good practically unbounded, etc, etc.")
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I wonder how the anti HPV inoculation folks view the supposed anti STD effects of circumcision?

Is it license to be a little slut if you immunize your girl, but ‘natural’ if you circumcise your boy?

Just wondering.

20 posted on 08/03/2007 2:30:21 PM PDT by allmendream
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The International Coalition for Genital Integrity

There's a real organization with this name? What do you suppose their logo is??

26 posted on 08/03/2007 2:35:57 PM PDT by liberty_lvr (76% of Americans agree we must abolish dihydrogen monoxide from our reservoirs...and they vote.)
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31 posted on 08/03/2007 2:40:23 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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This is true, of course

Ever since I was "trimmed", I don't get the chills up my spine when I see scary movies.

32 posted on 08/03/2007 2:41:04 PM PDT by llevrok (I voted for George Bush - not Jorge Arbusto.)
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There are a few threads on Free Republic that can cause fireworks. These are, IMHO:

1. Breastfeeding

2. Circumcision

3. Harry Potter


41 posted on 08/03/2007 2:46:27 PM PDT by voiceinthewind
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It hasn't slowed me down....

84 posted on 08/03/2007 6:53:28 PM PDT by b4its2late (When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.)
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I’m pretty sure circumcision beats the pants off most penile sensations. Just not in a good way.


99 posted on 08/05/2007 5:37:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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From the article:

ICGI director Dan Bollinger, who in the past has called circumcision "parental-elected penile reduction surgery," pointed out that the researchers did not measure the sensitivity of the foreskin, which previous research had said was the most sensitive area.

"All of us in the movement are rather surprised that this even got published," he said.

He points to a recent study published in the British Journal of Urology, which showed uncircumcised men had four times more sensitivity, as a better measure.

I am not surprised the article was published. A couple of years ago, my wife and I underwent a serious re education regarding this topic. Suffice it to say that our son is not circ'd as a result.

But it never ceases to amaze me how strongly the reaction to this is .... most especially, among women.

101 posted on 08/07/2007 4:41:48 AM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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