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North American union? Nope. Partnership? We'd benefit
Vancouver Sun ^ | 28 June 2007 | Barbara Yaffe

Posted on 06/29/2007 7:42:24 AM PDT by BGHater

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To: endthematrix

Yes and have you seen that they have managed to get Laura Bush involved in pushing this?

Don’t forget Tony Blair either. He will be active in his retirement pushing the african union. The AIDS money is only a bribe to ensure Africa’s politicians sell out their citizens to the global elites. Paid for by American taxpayers, against our wishes and in opposition of our Constitution.


21 posted on 06/29/2007 11:51:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (E)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Appreciated.


22 posted on 06/30/2007 12:03:43 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Hey, family values don’t stop at the Nile River...


23 posted on 06/30/2007 12:19:58 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: hedgetrimmer

it’s where it always gets moved to.....even from over a year ago, IIRC.


24 posted on 06/30/2007 5:07:13 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; hedgetrimmer
it’s where it always gets moved to.....even from over a year ago, IIRC.

I thought we'd get a little respect after the Frank Gaffney article (don't have the reference). I sent it to Hugh Hewitt who regularly has Frank on as a guest and got stunned silence. Hugh frequently poo-poos NAU/SPP speak as a loony conspiracy.

25 posted on 06/30/2007 5:48:33 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz; hedgetrimmer

apparently, that is not to be here.


26 posted on 06/30/2007 6:24:45 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: texastoo

“Actually, I didn’t realize the disparity of the populations of the 3 countries.”

You can knock *several* million off Mexico’s stats.

33 million in Canada? Wonder how hard it is to become Canadian.


27 posted on 06/30/2007 7:26:56 AM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: BGHater; B4Ranch; AuntB; pissant
This set of observations, by an avowed proponent of the SPP, makes it clear that they are being a tad gullible.

The author doesn't seem to recognize the implicit threat to the systems of checks and balances which make for social harmony and national union...they are explicitly either being being driven by, or employing one elite. Corporate honchos. Or to be euphemistic..."special interests." To be blunt, we used to call it "favoritism" and "Corruption" on this side of the Border.

The SPP has become controversial because of the secrecy that surrounded the project when it was first launched in 2005.

This unassailable observation of the manifest reality of the SPP...should have occasioned the serious question...WHY?

Conservatives, and the Liberal government before them, haven't explained the SPP issue to voters, and so are leaving the enterprise vulnerable from a public relations standpoint.

And this author STILL doesn't smell a rat?

When the Commons standing committee on international trade held hearings on the SPP in May, Council of Canadians chair Maude Barlow voiced a legitimate objection: "The SPP process has been done without any parliamentary debate or public input.

And also on our side. And the Mexican side. No open legislative debates, bills, or such...until we get things like the Immigration bill...where the SPP has elements salted into it...

"To date, the only stakeholders involved or consulted in the SPP process have been representatives of big business. Apparently when it comes to the future of North America, the public doesn't count, nor do elected officials."

An unusual development for countries whose supposed purpose in joining in the SPP in the first place...was their common "shared belief in freedom... and strong democratic institutions". The conduct of the SPP in all three countries actually belies this. Those "beliefs" are not strongly in evidence. Especially in either the "freedom" (not to say the preferred concept of liberty) or the "democratic institutions" elements....

The SPP practice of secrecy is fundamentally erosive and undermining of the effectiveness of representative government. The people, and their representatives, can't vote on what they are kept in the dark about.

28 posted on 06/30/2007 8:13:02 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross; nicmarlo

I think Bush isn’t happy with the idea of bringing all his “trade” ideas out in the open because of the resistance that they have received in the past from the voters.

Will we ever get a decent explaination about why the moderators push these articles over to ‘chat’ as fast as possible?


29 posted on 06/30/2007 9:42:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: B4Ranch; Paul Ross

We’ll get an explanation, but it’s got nothing to do with the real reason. The explanation is that everything NAU is a CT.

What I believe is the real reason.....I shouldn’t post.


30 posted on 06/30/2007 9:44:43 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; hedgetrimmer

They put it in chat so it is easier to find.
You don’t want it getting lost among all those Paris Hilton news articles and vanities, you know? ;-)


31 posted on 06/30/2007 11:17:59 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; hedgetrimmer

that’s what makes this even more absurd!

*sigh*


32 posted on 06/30/2007 11:30:30 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

I have no idea what the rationale is, but did you ever run across this?
Pay special attention to the URL (fred):

http://www.fredrepublic.com/focus/browse


33 posted on 06/30/2007 12:21:40 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

bizarre


34 posted on 06/30/2007 12:43:54 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: BGHater
It is in Ottawa's interest, as it seeks to advance the SPP agenda, to fully explain the enterprise and bring Canadians on board. As long as it neglects to do so, books will be published and protests planned to undermine it.

Indeed. Same should be done in the USA and Mexico.

35 posted on 06/30/2007 1:28:07 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Admin Moderator

Would you please explain why this article is in ‘chat’, so we know where to post given subjects in the future. Please.


36 posted on 06/30/2007 2:30:43 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

Did the Powers-That-Be get back to you on this?


37 posted on 07/02/2007 9:40:19 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: All

Has Fred Thompson made any statement pro or con on the SPP?


38 posted on 07/03/2007 5:22:43 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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