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Irish village gets its harlot back
ABCNews ^ | 4-16-2007 | staff writer

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:55:19 AM PDT by bedolido

A village in south-west Ireland has won a fresh round in a battle to change its name in the Irish language back to Fort of the Harlot.

For centuries, the village known as Doon in English had been known in Irish as Dun Bleisce, or Fort of the Harlot, but the name was changed in 2003 when the Government ordered a simpler An Dun, or The Fort.

The unpopular move led to 1,000 locals signing a petition to have 'harlot' added back to the name. They were backed by local politicians and a Limerick County Council motion of support.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: History; Local News; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: fort; godsgravesglyphs; harlot; irish; nappyredheaded; village
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You forgot one: “democrat”


21 posted on 04/16/2007 10:51:27 AM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: bedolido; SunkenCiv; blam; martin_fierro; Constitution Day; dighton; Charles Henrickson; ...

I thought they’d lost their only one, like it was a one-whore’s town.

Badaboom!


22 posted on 04/16/2007 11:03:48 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: SunkenCiv

The Romans must have sensed the Irish would be just too feisty to conquer, like the Scots. :-))


23 posted on 04/16/2007 11:07:05 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

The Romans in Ireland
Archaeology Today | 2000? | L.A. Curchin
Posted on 07/18/2004 11:54:58 PM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1173950/posts


24 posted on 04/16/2007 11:17:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wildbill

“...and the banker asked, ‘My! Did you hoard all that money by yourself?’...”


25 posted on 04/16/2007 11:18:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: colorado tanker; SunkenCiv
The Romans must have sensed the Irish would be just too feisty to conquer, like the Scots. :-))

More likely, they calculated it simply wasn't worth the effort or the cost in men and expense.

26 posted on 04/16/2007 12:09:58 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: bedolido

“Ms Jackman said the literal translation of the word may be ‘harlot’ but the woman who the village was named after in ancient times may not have been a harlot in the sense of the term today.”

She wasn’t a politician?


28 posted on 04/16/2007 12:34:49 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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Tard ping


29 posted on 04/16/2007 12:50:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: colorado tanker

I often wonder why the Romans bothered to invade Britain.

I think the real reason was to provide a defensive buffer against attacks upon, or colaborration with, the Celts in
Gaul.

If that were the case, the Roman presence in only Britain would have made sense.

The Roman Army would have had no problem to conquering either Ireland or Scotland. Both areas were inhabited by disunited tribes and although individually they were fearsome warriors, Roman organization and discipline would have triumphed in the end. Besides, by the time of the invasion of Britain, a lot of legionnaries themselves were Celts from Gaul or mixed Celtic-Roman peoples

The problem would have come AFTER conquering those areas.
The Romans, despite their excellant road system and effective troop movements, had simply exceeded the technological capacity of the time to control and administrate such a vast area. I think that was why Genghis Khan’s empire collapsed. Poor comunications and travel led to localized control and loss of central administrative power.


30 posted on 04/16/2007 12:50:19 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Ho ho ho, um, I mean, LOL.


31 posted on 04/16/2007 12:58:22 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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To: ZULU

You don’t think it was a simple mistake? The name of the game back then was to grab as much territory as possible before death. Could you be giving them too much credit as to the situation of the populace in England at the time?


32 posted on 04/16/2007 1:01:50 PM PDT by Jaysun (See you in Heaven if you make the list.)
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To: wildbill
Definitely a BOO on that.
Go stand in the corner.
33 posted on 04/16/2007 1:05:50 PM PDT by curmudgeonII (Dum spiro spero.)
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To: ZULU
I think the real reason was to provide a defensive buffer against attacks upon, or collaboration with, the Celts in Gaul.

That's my belief. Britain was so close to Gaul geographically and ethnically it would have been a natural base from which to organize rebellions against Roman rule.

In a historical fiction series I read Britain is portrayed as cold, damp and remote - no place any Roman would want to end up. Obviously before Cool Britannia.

34 posted on 04/16/2007 1:45:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Jaysun

Well, they decided they had overreached themselves in Dacia and Mesopotamia during Hadrian or Trajan’s reign.

Even back then, you had to exercize a degree of realism.


35 posted on 04/16/2007 1:54:45 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: colorado tanker

“In a historical fiction series I read Britain is portrayed as cold, damp and remote - no place any Roman would want to end up. Obviously before Cool Britannia.”

Yes, it is pictured that way. Compared to Italy, that may have been the case. But I believe the climate back then actually WAS warmer (and WITHOUT Algore!!!) and, at any rate, a lot of the “Roman” soldiers stationed there may have come from very different places than the sunny Mediterranean, e.g. the Sarmatians, and Batavians, not to mention actual Gauls in the Legions.


36 posted on 04/16/2007 1:57:49 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
"conquering"

There was a very interesting program on the History Channel recently detailing the defeat of Boadicea's forces by the Romans around the first century a.d. The Romans were vastly outnumbered by Boadiceas forces by about ten to one, but discipline and better weapons and equipment won out in the end. At the onset of the final battle it looked like curtains for the Romans due to the immense size of the Celtic hordes. And the Celts had the Romans on the run after achieving a few victories over them.

But the Roman fighting machine attacked Boadicea's men and slaughtered them. The program showed how the Roman army lit into the Celtic horde like a buzzsaw. Using disciplined techniques and superior protection and weapons (especially put to good use in close quarter fighting was the Roman short sword) the Romans were able to cut a large swathe in the Celts.

In the end only a very small number of Roman soldiers were killed while the Celtic horde were almost totally slaughtered. Boadicea was forced to commit suicide rather than being taken prisoner. The battle proved that superior discipline, training, and strategy can enable small forces to defeat much larger opponents.

37 posted on 04/16/2007 2:55:35 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: SunkenCiv

“...and the banker asked, ‘My! Did you hoard all that money by yourself?’...”

And Blanche from Streetcar Named Desire replied, “How dare you, suh, I never whored all that money, I got by on the kindness of my gentlemen friends.


38 posted on 04/16/2007 3:35:54 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Don’t leave anyone out!

"Ladies of negotiable virtue."

39 posted on 04/16/2007 4:16:25 PM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: bedolido

No town should ever lose its harlot.

No country should ever steal a town’s harlot.

I’m so glad that the town got its harlot back...and I hope she’s in as good a condition now as she was when they kidnapped her.


40 posted on 04/16/2007 5:14:30 PM PDT by bannie
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