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Apple delays Leopard until October because of iPhone
Macworld ^ | 04/12/2007 | Peter Cohen

Posted on 04/12/2007 2:38:12 PM PDT by JohnSheppard

Apple on Thursday released a statement noting that Mac OS X v10.5 “Leopard” won’t be released until October. The cause of the delay? The iPhone.

“iPhone has already passed several of its required certification tests and is on schedule to ship in late June as planned. We can’t wait until customers get their hands (and fingers) on it and experience what a revolutionary and magical product it is,” reads a statement published by the company.

Getting the iPhone ready for its June launch has had an unintended consequence, however: QA and “some key software engineering” resources allocated to Mac OS X needed to be diverted from their work to finish the iPhone. As a result, Apple won’t release Leopard at its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) in June, as it had first planned.

“While Leopard’s features will be complete by then, we cannot deliver the quality release that we and our customers expect from us. We now plan to show our developers a near final version of Leopard at the conference, give them a beta copy to take home so they can do their final testing, and ship Leopard in October. We think it will be well worth the wait. Life often presents tradeoffs, and in this case we’re sure we’ve made the right ones,” reads the statement.


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KEYWORDS: apple; iphone; leopard; macosx
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To: George W. Bush
I notice M$ is closing down WinXP OEM licenses forcibly at year end, something Dell and HP don't seem to like.

You vill usz zee Vista, and you vill like it!

21 posted on 04/13/2007 3:46:06 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: JohnSheppard

I wonder if this also means they will delay refreshing their laptop line as well. I’d like to replace my four year old rev A G4 Powerbook but I’m waiting for the refresh.


22 posted on 04/13/2007 5:32:14 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: Swordmaker

This blows...wonder what the impact will be on deferred hardware sales? I know I will now defer as long as possible and hope I can hold on with my current PC until the new Macs come out with Leopard. BTW, stock down close to 2% in pre-market this morning.


23 posted on 04/13/2007 5:38:31 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
stock down close to 2% in pre-market this morning.
I coulda had a V8. Instead, I bought some AAPL stock yesterday :(

24 posted on 04/13/2007 6:03:08 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Big Journalism is The Distraction Establishment.)
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To: JohnSheppard
“While Leopard’s features will be complete by then, we cannot deliver the quality release that we and our customers expect from us. "

If this was MS, they'd release Leopard now with a planned patch for October.

25 posted on 04/13/2007 6:16:21 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
I coulda had a V8. Instead, I bought some AAPL stock yesterday :(

Stock didn't go down much at all this AM, only minus 1.23 on early trading. Apple was at $50 @ share just last July (2006). I will likely purchase shares in a few days.

26 posted on 04/13/2007 6:55:14 AM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I can hold on with my current PC until the new Macs come out with Leopard. BTW, stock down close to 2% in pre-market this morning.

Hey, me too! The old Dell is hanging on by its cuticles.
Ah well, maybe they will have the new laptop line coincident with the release of Leopard. Now that would be worth waiting for.

27 posted on 04/13/2007 6:57:46 AM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: JohnSheppard
What crap, way to go apple! Lets focus on an overpriced (albeit nice) cell phone and hork off the people who are waiting for the next OS.
28 posted on 04/13/2007 7:15:01 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: tubebender

Did you not claim it was for bootcamp?


29 posted on 04/13/2007 7:15:40 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: coconutt2000
I'd rather have it working than have it soon.

Besides, what all is wrong with Tiger?
30 posted on 04/13/2007 7:30:07 AM PDT by Live free or die
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To: tubebender; Swordmaker
>Where does Vista fit in on the delay?

Last month the Mac fans
said the source of the rumor
never got things right . . .

Mac OS X 10.5 delayed to ensure Vista compatibility?

31 posted on 04/13/2007 7:51:14 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: N3WBI3
>Did you not claim it was for bootcamp?

Well, you know, they say
it's iPhone issues, but who
would believe Apple?

Anyways, press folks
noticed this is their second
delay recently--

Apple's Leopard delay may signal deeper problems

32 posted on 04/13/2007 7:57:47 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

so MS delays Vista by nearly a half decade! and Apple is in trouble because of six months?


33 posted on 04/13/2007 8:22:52 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: vox_freedom

“Ah well, maybe they will have the new laptop line coincident with the release of Leopard. Now that would be worth waiting for.”

The question will be if they update the hardware line prior to Leopard. Honestly, I don’t see how they don’t as most of it is out of date already. The Mini has not been updated since September. No way they wait a full year.


34 posted on 04/13/2007 8:32:28 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: N3WBI3

“so MS delays Vista by nearly a half decade! and Apple is in trouble because of six months?”

It’s all relative. MSFT has constantly delayed product launches. meanwhile, Apple has always introduced a product and had it available for sale immediately. That trend started changing with Apple TV which was pre-announced. Same with the iPhone. That is a break in pattern. Now Leopard is missing the announced “Spring” release date. It could be seen as a trend. Not to mention that AAPL also sells the hardware and postponements in the OS will inevitably postpone hardware purchases causing additional lost revenue.


35 posted on 04/13/2007 8:35:29 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: theFIRMbss
Last month the Mac fans said the source of the rumor never got things right . . .

A broken clock is still right twice a day...

They were apparently right... for the wrong reason.

(In the interests of accuracy, Apple has announced that their latest build of Boot Camp Beta has some problems booting Vista that were not present in the previous version.)

36 posted on 04/13/2007 9:22:23 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Swordmaker
>Apple has announced that their latest build of Boot Camp Beta has some problems booting Vista
EMI, Beatles settle royalties dispute

What does Apple care?
Any day they will announce
they've got the Beatles

and OS delays
will be a forgotten blip.
They'll be flying high.

37 posted on 04/13/2007 10:10:30 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: coconutt2000

You think SOHO Organizer sucks — you should try Chinatown Organizer. What a piece of crap! Myself, I use Midtown Organizer.


38 posted on 04/13/2007 10:29:17 AM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: Yehuda

SOHO Organizer’s current version is 5.7.1, or thereabouts.

Ignore the version number. Group Organizer underwent a complete rewrite and emerged as SOHO Organizer, with a completely new interface, database, and code base. The current version of SOHO continued with Group Organizer’s versioning numbers, even though technically it was released with beta or even alpha quality. The initial release of SOHO Organizer was so rife with problems the company removed their Help Forums from the web because the complaints were impacting sales.

It took them over a year to release the next update of SOHO Organizer with a complete feature set, and while the latest version is running better than the first, if you have a lot of data stored in it, it can slow down without explanation. Much of our time spent accessing our data can be described as click-wait-click-wait-click-wait, etc.

If you want a mobile accessible calendar, I’m just starting tests on Spanning Sync from spanningsync.com. It connects and syncs iCal to Google Calendar. But preferably, I would like to keep the calendar server in-house to prevent downtime when the internet goes down, which it does here in American Samoa.

Which is why I wanted Leopard so badly. Leopard client comes with the new version of iCal that supports CalDav. Apple has released on MacOSForge the source code for their CalDav server. I feel confident that I can skip buying Leopard Server and get the full functionality of the Calendar sharing. At least, that’s what I was hoping, but now it looks like we’ll have to find an alternative. Which means I’ll be checking out the MarkSpace syncing package and Spanning Sync over the coming weekend and next week.

I can’t speak for Entourage or Outlook since we don’t use them, and don’t plan on it. Microsoft’s Office Suite is unstable enough without increasing our reliance on it at this point. And as good as Microsoft Office for Mac is, the general rule with Microsoft software still applies - “Work fast and save often.”


39 posted on 04/13/2007 12:52:47 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Yehuda

I have SOHO notes and like it but have not used SOHO Organizer.

Entourage is poky...I mean it is s-l-o-w. The Project Manager is a joke. It might work if you only had one simple project, and it really isn’t a project management program anyway: it’s more like a way to track email on a project and put some things on a calendar. The Entourage calendar is very weak. There is a new Office release around the corner and they might have solved some of the problems I have with it.

iCal is cooler looking but lacks features, like linking with reminders, email, etc. Leopard may change that too.

I used to use Now Contact and Calendar and loved it but you couldn’t use it cross-platform. So I switched to Entourage a few years back.

It looks like Now has taken care of the cross-platform issues with the new release, which I’m going to try: http://www.nowsoftware.com/.

Good luck!


40 posted on 04/13/2007 8:16:09 PM PDT by Amadeo
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