Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

[mom4kittys]

Thread Number 3

[Sacajaweau]

I don't have her drug experience but I do remember being very drunk when I was about 18 and once I hit the bed, I didn't remember anything and was powerless to get anything at that point.

If someone had given me a drink of TEA, I probably would have drank it...just because that was what was happening and I would think they were helping me. But get out of bed...Never would have made it.

Sins of my youth....that I regret.

[Sacajaweau]

Yes, I remember it. But hey...Howard’s already said he wasn’t a doctor. So the doctor lied to him, right and they tried to get Thompson to sign the certificate. Yup, that makes sense....NOT.

[uncitizen]

Oh I forgot to add: also saw HKS on LKL saying - the timing of it - Larry could not be the father - I am the father. He looked right into the camera and lied to the American people (and the international audience such as it is). Remind you of anyone?

Did you notice whether or not he was biting his bottom lip?

[uncitizen]

I would be really surprised if ANS's statement to the police is something derogatory toward HKS due to her being so drugged up

And he probably is the one that wrote it for her. Look out for lots of over the top obnoxious spelling and grammar/puncuation errors.

[daybreakcoming]

YOU PEOPLE (note ‘Imus speak’) have been drinking too many toasts tonight.

Anna would have wanted it that way.

[uncitizen]

Thank you Doc! That looks so peaceful and yummy too.

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“That is why they need to remove DL from the clutches of that sick individual as soon as possible.”

I really wish that had been done yesterday by whatever means necessary. Next best thing would be for the entire Birkhead entourage to move into Horizons with HKS there (or not) to watch over DL every moment.

I do not know how LB, Virgie and their families tolerate this, especially since paternity has been confirmed. They are stonger people than I.

[TexKat]

ANNA NICOLE'S SISTER DISHES

April 11, 2007 -- ANNA Nicole's sister Donna Hogan - same white-blond hair, industrial- strength eye and lip makeup, ample bosom, low-cut top, but drinking only Sprite - said: "It p - - - - - me off when people say I'm making money off her. I was offered fortunes to tell on her. I was there when she did liposuction in the '90s. I have pictures of her lipo. Even though I needed money bad, I never sold her out."

So, OK, so Donna, hon, so then why "Train Wreck," your new book about and against Anna?

"Because I was hurt. Because it's closure for me. Because now she's gone, and things about her upsetted me. She was selfish. I always respected her, and she always disrespected me. I was struggling. I had to live in a shelter to protect my three kids and I never asked her for nothing. She had four houses and never offered me one to stay in. I bought her a Marilyn Monroe doll and she never bought me a thing. She'd take people who worked for her on shopping sprees to Rodeo Drive and never bring my kids anything.

"She never once offered me money. Except to try and take my little girl from me. See, even after she had Danny she wanted a girl child desperately. She offered me thousands, but only if I'd give up my baby daughter to her which, of course, I wouldn't."

About their similarities: "Well, yeah, I've done drugs . . . we've both had a wild crazy life . . . both had affairs with women . . . three-way sex . . . kids without husbands . . . and I'm now kind of living with someone . . . And, like her, I worked gentlemen's clubs. I waitressed. There's perverts who just want you to get drunk with them. So I'd sit and drink. You could make $2,000 a night.

"Look, I was offered lots of the same kind of stuff she was, but I just couldn't do it. I think she had some kind of illness. She did it with all sorts of girlfriends and gay boyfriends. I mean, she gave our father - who molested girls and actually touched me - naked photos of herself. This is a man who got married the day after we buried Vickie.

"And she never liked her given name Vickie. In school she'd call herself Nicky, so maybe that's where Nicole came in."

Donna Hogan lives in Houston. Her gift baskets business is called Country Delights. Monday was her first moment ever in New York. After dinner she saw Times Square. While asking could she squeeze in a musical like "Mama Mia!" or "The Color Purple" between the 17 shows she's doing to hustle her book, I was asking her opinion of Howard K. Stern.

"I never believed he was the father of Dannielynn. He couldn't create a child even if he had two [she used a colorful word to describe male equipment.] He's not man enough. Anna Nicole Smith led him around by the nose. And can you believe his sister now has a publicist? And wants to be a Dr. Ruth-type TV sex therapist?"

And Donna's opinion of mother-dearest Virgie?

"Virgie had more media than family at the funeral. Listen, Virgie used to abuse Vickie. Treat her bad. Hit her. When they started Virgie went with her to the strip clubs.

"I never took money from anybody. All the media companies followed me and harassed me and offered big money for my story. I never took a dime. Now, for the funeral and lawyers and traveling around, Virgie has a photo company paying. Howard's bills are being paid by a TV show. Larry Birkhead probably has some deal, too."

About larger-than-life Anna Nicole Smith, this sister says: "She actually had nothing. She was always broke. She lost her ranch. She was always getting sued. She went bankrupt. She lost everything. Her life really turned into a train wreck after Howard Marshall. She got depressed. She fought to keep her name alive. She'd suddenly do anything to stay in the spotlight, then the more she got in the spotlight the more she had to do to stay there. And when Stern came into her life she really changed. Everything went downhill.

"Y'know, because of our same father and different mothers, there's others of us. Like another sister Amy, who's into modeling and nobody really knows where she is because nobody wants anything to do with her."

A bite into the Waverly Inn's soft roll, a sigh about "I really have to lose weight," and then . . . "I guess the dysfunctionality in our family goes way back."

And: "I just never want Howard or Virgie to end up with that baby."

Put it down to another of your usual humdrum ho-hum evenings of nice pleasant boring dinner-table talk. Only in New York, kids, only in New York.

[uncitizen]

TMZ first reported that Stern was about to hire Lin Wood, pit bull lawyer, to file suit against certain networks and reporters. NOWHERE does it say that He HAS HIRED Lin Wood - wonder why?

Yep, i noticed it. And was confused too.

[uncitizen]

YOU PEOPLE (note ‘Imus speak’) have been drinking too many toasts tonight.

Anna would have wanted it that way.

Yeah. It's WAWHW. You don't.......have a problem with what Anna would've wanted do you???

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You’re right, she would have.

You guys were ON last night! Thanks for the laughs.

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Thank you for the pics Kat. In looking at them I just realized HKS has always reminded me of a stereotype mortician in horror films.

[gopheraj]

p.s. I hope everyone heard, Pol and ‘wife’ telling Greta tonite that they are ‘still the uncles’ and ‘expect to be’ part of Dannilynn’s life ‘as she’s growing up’ and, alluded they were ‘working with Larry’ to make that happen..’Anna would have wanted it that way’

I hope that LB keeps DL away from all those freaks. If he wants her to grow up normal, he should.

[TexKat]

Donna Hogan Half- Sister to Anna Nicole Smith Tells All on CBS News

You can read a twelve page excerpt of it on the www.CBSNEWS.com it is tragic and pathetic.

Donna looks very similar to her sister Anna Nicole, who she refers to rightly, as Vickie. She claims to have been the oldest of the brood although her real mother is Wanda. They were both abused by theirfather Donald Hogan. Hogan, who was not only an alcoholic, physically abusive, but a pedophile. Their mother had an on again off again relationship with him. There was no registry for sexual predators back then. Anna Nichole craved a relationship with her father and her mother would become very angry when she would try to see him. It wasn’t for the right reasons, because she would continue to have a relationship with her through out periods of her life.

Donna suffers from the pain of estrangement with her sister. She was the mother hen to the brood of siblings and half siblings all through her childhood. When her mother had twin boys she was the one who took care of them when she was a teenager. The story that she tells is hard to follow. There is a string of boyfriends, fathers and half siblings.

She feels that Virgie should not be allowed to raise Anna Nicole’s daughter that her sister’s wishes should be honored. It is obvious that she knows that her mother would be a horrible mother to any child. She also said that her sister’s love for her billionaire husband was a marriage of security. Donna said that she doesn’t believe that she was entitled to half of his estate.

She wants her little niece to have a healthy happy upbringing and knows that being brought up in her biological family would be severely damaging. It is a tragic story not only because of what Anna Nichole went through but because of the estrangement of sisters. She also tells about the relationship between her other sister Anna and Anna Nichole who were so similar. Their personalities of greed, promiscuity and needing to be in the limelight kept them from being sisters, but more as enemies.

The continued interview can be seen tomorrow on www.CBSNews.com You can also read the whole story in “Train Wreck.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/210075/donna_hogan_half_sister_to_anna_nicole.html

[uncitizen]

Ya know, in listening to his voice yesterday, he didn’t seem as monotone as usual. Still monotone, but not as much. He almost sounded a tad (very very small tad) like a normal person. Vocally speaking! Don’t get me wrong.

And what’s up with those dark circles around his eyes. No makeup this time? Or is he in drug withdrawl?

[Sacajaweau]

I'm interested in the date of Anna's statement to the police. It sure wasn't at the hospital. "She experienced a MEMORY LOSS of the event according to Howard and he had to tell her again that "Danny's dead". (Sound's like "your mommy's dead"??).

They sedated her and whisked her out of the hospital.

I'll bet her statement was DAYS after Danny's death and in accordance with Howard's and KE's script.

KE stated that she had seen Danny before he left for the Bahamas and mentioned a med he was on and that he had a tummy ache. But Howard never mentioned a tummy ache...just that he was tired and he should have thought more of it....Like duh...It was a tough day for the kid but "tired" does not equate with "death".

I believe that at some time, Anna got wise and they started to drug her profusely with intent.

The fact that KE was warned about the potential for disaster with the drug combo (more than once),

the fact that chloral hydrate is rarely tested for, the fact that they flashed the picture of Kapoor (but with no connection to KE),

And according to Perper, THE FACT THAT ANNA WOULD HAVE LIKELY LIVED IF THEY HAD TAKEN HER TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE CONTROLLED HER DRUGS

tells me that they didn't inform her of the danger she was in and "I don't want to go to the hospital"...is more likely connected to them telling her she just had the flu....hence, the Tami flu at her bedside.

And then there's the big lie...that she hadn't taken methadone in 5 months..and that one was under oath.

[windchime]

The only time I have a problem with what Anna would have wanted is when it becomes WHWHW. ;)

He would definitely not have approved of the excellent quips last night.

[paws_and_whiskers]

Okay, behind as usual and trying to catch up. Holy moly, what do you feed a dog like that? No wait, what would you use to clean up after that?

[TexKat]

LOL! Seeing him walk in the news clips HKS’s physiogonomy sucks big time, leaves alot to be desired.

[daybreakcoming]

Yeah. It's WAWHW.

Hey I was on my 1st cup of coffee. :o) I know Anna would have "wished" it that way.

I wonder if LB is walking a tight rope right now until this custody is settled. HKS Worm might have something on him. That public embrace yesterday did not seem to be 'all that' on LB's side. Actually it seemed out of place.