Weekly Sci-Fi Thread (03/25/07)

03/25/07 | Kevin Davis

[KevinDavis]

This weeks Sci-Fi Listing:

Sun:
9/8 - Dresden Files --> Sci-Fi Network (Guest Star Claudia Black).
10/9 - Battlestar Galactica --> Sci-Fi Network (Season Finale)

Wed: 8/7 - Jericho --> CBS

[discostu]

Actually there were lots of aliens in the original, though with the budget they pretty much stopped showing them after the casino planet. Remember the original the Cylons were actually an alien species that built a bunch of robots, the real aliens died but the robots took over their place in the universe (that being primarily subgugating other species like humans).

[IDontLikeToPayTaxes]

No offense, but you should probably find a different show. BSG is not what you are looking for (gods willing).

Exactly. I'm not a huge Star Trek fan simply because of the silly "Forehead of the Week" theme they have.

[Liberty Valance]

All along the watchtower

"There must be some way out of here,"
said the joker to the thief,
"There's too much confusion,
I can't get no relief."

[BenLurkin]

I share that hunch.

Starbuck has always been a Cylon suspect -- glad she's back though.

[miliantnutcase]

I really like the angle their taking with Baltar. He is now the "Enemy within" stirring deception (like a good ACLU liberal). Fooling all the little weak minded girlies with his mien kampf book.

[antiRepublicrat]

And where are all the alien civilizations? They've travelled farther than ever before and never found ANYTHING???

Aliens aren't necessary for good sci-fi. Isaac Asimov wrote hundreds of sci-fi books, and aliens only showed up (IIRC) in one small trilogy.

[antiRepublicrat]

And where are all the alien civilizations? They've travelled farther than ever before and never found ANYTHING???

Aliens aren't necessary for good sci-fi. Isaac Asimov wrote hundreds of sci-fi books, and aliens only showed up (IIRC) in one small trilogy.

[Zeroisanumber]

Here, there be spoilers:

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Ok, don't say that you weren't warned

Tigh (presumably) has a military file that goes back to the First Cylon War, how could he be a humanoid Cylon? Some clever computer hacking? Time travel? /s

Also, did anyone else find it interesting that three of the four were the leaders of the resistance on New Caprica?

Finally, some good news. RDM just did an interview with Salon confirming that SciFi has upped its order from 13 to 22 episodes, that Season 4 may very well be the last season, and the BSG team plans to release a 2 hour "Mega Episode" in fall 2007. The mega episode will be set on Battlestar Pegasus and will feature Admiral Cain. Presumably this means that the episode will take place before the Pegasus met up with the Galactica and her fleet.

[IDontLikeToPayTaxes]

Also, did anyone else find it interesting that three of the four were the leaders of the resistance on New Caprica?

That's what makes me think they aren't Cylons. They mistakenly think they're Cylons. I think they were implanted with some sort of computer chip (or something along those lines) while they were on New Caprica.

Finally, some good news. RDM just did an interview with Salon confirming that SciFi has upped its order from 13 to 22 episodes

That's awesome news, as I love this show. There are many great shows out there that only lasted 3 seasons. The original Star Trek only lasted 3 seasons (80 episodes) and Gilligan's Island only lasted 3 seasons with 98 episodes.

Both of those shows have been played in syndication for years! I think BSG has a future on TV for a long time after it leaves the Sci Fi Channel.

[Zeroisanumber]

That's what makes me think they aren't Cylons. They mistakenly think they're Cylons. I think they were implanted with some sort of computer chip (or something along those lines) while they were on New Caprica.

I don't know, I'm beginning to think that the Cylon God and the Gods of humanity are one in the same, and that that entity wants humanity and the Cylons to become a unified whole.

It's the only explanation that I can come up with for ChipSix and ChipGaius, the shared visions of Laura, Athena, and Caprica, and why three Cylon models would fight a guerrilla war against seven others.

[IDontLikeToPayTaxes]

It's the only explanation that I can come up with for ChipSix and ChipGaius, the shared visions of Laura, Athena, and Caprica, and why three Cylon models would fight a guerrilla war against seven others.

Yep, that has me confused, too. I have no idea what to make of the Roslin-Six-Athena-Hera-Final Five opera house thing.

Heck, I can't even figure out the Final Five concept. Ha Ha.

[Wormwood]

That's what makes me think they aren't Cylons. T

Ron Moore has apparently confirmed that they are, in fact, Cylons (of a type)

[af_vet_rr]

Also, did anyone else find it interesting that three of the four were the leaders of the resistance on New Caprica?

All four did in my mind - Tori was heavily involved in identifying turncoats, Tigh, Anders, and Chief were carrying out operations/organizing things.

As far as the whole 2008 thing - I read an article that said DirectTV worked out some deal with NBC/Universal, to bring Sci-Fi channel, etc., to DirectTV, in HD, and that BSG would be a "showcase" series to help launch this. I can definitely wait for the fourth season to be in HD.

I've also read that what they had planned to do for the fifth season, they were wanting to do three-four direct-to-DVD movies, because they felt the storyarcs could be done better in some kind of movie/mini-series format, similar to where Stargate SG1 is going - they are going to watch Stargate as well as the new Babylon 5 and see how they do.

[Maximus of Texas]

Ok, what ships would be left standing in a battle that included the alien ship from ID4, The Enterprise E, Battlestar Galactica and any other ship you want to throw into the mix?

[desherwood7]

I have two thoughts, First, I didn't know that the Cylons dig Dylan, And second, Is Starbuck really alive or was that her ghost?

[BelegStrongbow]

Isn't the more appropriate question how Dylan managed to channel Cylon music?

Personally, I'm getting the distinct vibe that the Cylons are being set up as humanity's ancestors OR that the merge of the two is what led to us.

Interesting thoughts, sometimes. Had I a choice I'd still prefer Elves and Men to Cylons and Capricans.

[Wormwood]

Isn't the more appropriate question how Dylan managed to channel Cylon music?

From BSG composer Bear McReary's blog:

happened to catch Ron Moore in the hallway at Universal and, in a brief conversation, got everything I needed to know. I learned that the idea was not that Bob Dylan necessarily exists in the characters' universe, but that an artist on one of the colonies may have recorded a song with the exact same melody and lyrics. Perhaps this unknown performer and Dylan pulled inspiration from a common, ethereal source. Therefore, I was told to make no musical references to any "Earthly" versions, Hendrix, Dylan or any others. The arrangement needed to sound like a pop song that belonged in the Galactica universe, not our own.

With Ron's blessing to try out whatever I wanted, I suddenly had the most creative freedom I'd ever been offered. No temp scores, no music notes... not even any picture to score! I was on my own, free to arrange this piece in any way I saw fit. So, in early January, with nothing to lose, I set out to do my first All Along the Watchtower demo. I assumed, correctly, that the demo would be the starting point for months of discussion between myself, the producers and the network. What I didn't realize was that everyone involved would love my version so much that the final recording you hear in "Crossroads, Part II" is, in essence, my initial idea.

[BelegStrongbow]

Thanks. That would be very handy, being able to use stuff from the consensus world in the subcreated one.

Should one assume that this fortuitous accident will only occur for songs that have outlived their copyrights? :)

After all, I could really get into hearing 'Werewolves of London' every time Gaius shows up unexpectedly.