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NYC Councilman Wants City Pit Bull-Free
AP/1010WINS ^ | 12/28/06

Posted on 12/28/2006 6:47:33 AM PST by presidio9

Regarded as dangerous pets by their detractors but loved for their assertive nature by their owners, pit bull terriers may find themselves banned from New York City.

Queens City Councilman Peter Vallone said Tuesday that he wants to ban the canines, calling them a danger to public safety.

"Pit bulls are responsible for many, many attacks,'' the Democrat said. "A parent on the street can't protect their children, or themselves from this, what is actually a weapon.''

Vallone said that many gangs and criminals train pit bulls to be attack dogs.

The canines do account for 15 percent of animal attacks in the city. They are also among the most commonly abandoned, found in disproportionately high numbers at the city's pet shelters.

But pit bull lovers said they don't think pit bulls are inherently dangerous and that they don't need to be banned.

Pedro Rosario, who owns four pit bulls and has worked at the Manhattan shelter and adoption center for more than a decade, said Tuesday that the dogs' temperament depends on how their owners raise them.

"With a responsible owner, this could be a great pet in the house,'' Rosario said, as he sat in the shelter, ruffling the fur of one of the famously tough dogs.

Another pit bull owner, Greta Godoy, agreed with Rosario. "It all has to do with how you teach them, how you nurture them,'' she said. "If you do abuse them they will become very aggressive.''

Vallone's proposal would ban pit bulls from being sold or bred in the city. Current owners would be able to keep their pit bulls.

Other cities have placed similar bans on pit bulls - including Denver, Kansas City and Miami - after high-profile attacks involving the canines.


TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: landsharks

1 posted on 12/28/2006 6:47:34 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

I agree that there should be no bulls in the city's pit.


2 posted on 12/28/2006 6:49:00 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

There should be no moooslems in NYC.


3 posted on 12/28/2006 6:49:52 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: Gondring
I wonder if this guy could do something about the big free ranging Doberman that wanders through my neighborhood everyday?
4 posted on 12/28/2006 6:54:59 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: presidio9
"A parent on the street can't protect their children, or themselves from this, what is actually a weapon."

They can with a .357 or a .45.

5 posted on 12/28/2006 6:55:50 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist

No kidding. I'm currently looking to adopt a dog for the family here in the NYC area, and no lie, pit bulls make up about 90% of the available dogs in shelters.

Another wonderful gift to our society from hip-hop culture.


6 posted on 12/28/2006 7:00:22 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: presidio9; Dixie Yooper; jan in Colorado
From personal experience, I think the city's ban on trans-fats is the problem here. I got attacked by a pit bull once, ambushed from behind.

Well, the poor thing tried to bite my butt, but with the large radius of curvature of my gluteal region, those jaws weren't able to open enough (it certainly wasn't my thin wallet that saved me!)--multiple bite attempts on my butt and all I got was slobbered.

I have no doubt that if those jaws HAD been able to lock on, though, they wouldn't have let go. What a vicious creature. So they should keep people obese enough to avoid injury. :-)
7 posted on 12/28/2006 7:00:41 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: theDentist

In NYC? You've got to be kidding! I think they meant "law-abiding" parents. Only the criminals have the .357s in NYC.


8 posted on 12/28/2006 7:01:42 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: presidio9
"With a responsible owner, this could be a great pet in the house,'' Rosario said, as he sat in the shelter, ruffling the fur of one of the famously tough dogs.

Another pit bull owner, Greta Godoy, agreed with Rosario. "It all has to do with how you teach them, how you nurture them,'' she said. "If you do abuse them they will become very aggressive.''

That's the problem. It's usually thugs and idiots who buy these dogs. These dogs are attractive mostly to idiots who will not be responsible owners. Irresponsible owner + Pit Bull = killing machine.

9 posted on 12/28/2006 7:01:45 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: presidio9

No trans-fats, no pit bulls... I think we should ban the color purple next.


10 posted on 12/28/2006 7:02:16 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

NO!!! Not purple! It would be red, for the Red Sox!


11 posted on 12/28/2006 7:03:01 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: presidio9

bump for later


12 posted on 12/28/2006 7:08:15 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Gondring
multiple bite attempts on my butt and all I got was slobbered

I got slobbered by a St Bernard once on the pants leg of my jeans. Never got the stains out. I don't hate dogs, I just like it when they aren't taking a dump in my yard. I also like it when they aren't barking all night long because they're adopted parents have taken them inside for the night.

13 posted on 12/28/2006 7:11:37 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: T.Smith
That's the problem. It's usually thugs and idiots who buy these dogs. These dogs are attractive mostly to idiots who will not be responsible owners. Irresponsible owner + Pit Bull = killing machine.

You hit upon the reason why banning them won't solve the problem: These same people will just go buy rotweilers, and neglect and abuse them the same ways.

14 posted on 12/28/2006 7:19:07 AM PST by presidio9 (Proudly posting every day from Ground Zero)
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To: presidio9

It is media hysteria and irrational fear that leads to proposals to ban particular breeds of dogs. In a recent Google search, Ledy VanKavage, ASPCA Attorney, found the following:

Media Reports of Dog Attacks: June 9, 2006

Attacks by non-pit bull dogs are rarely taken up by national or international media sources, while this is regularly the case with pit bull attacks.


• An 11-year-old girl was bitten in the leg and received "serious, but not life-threatening injuries", when she was attacked by two Pit bulls in California. Her injuries required hospitalization. This incident was reported in over ninety-one national and international newspapers. Forbes, FOX News, along with the Washington Post, LA Times, Chicago Tribune and dozens of other major news organizations headlined this"Pit Bull Attack".

• A three-year-old Virginia boy was admitted to the hospital with "extensive injuries". The child was attacked by a Golden Retriever mixed breed dog. The wounds to the child required 300 stitches; and the child will require additional surgeries to "functionally repair muscles, nerves and work on scars". This incident was reported in only two local Virginia newspapers.


• A 3-year-old girl is admitted to Children's Hospital in Denver with serious lacerations to her face and head. The hospital declined to release the child's name or information on her condition. She had been attacked by at her home by a Labrador retriever. This attack was reported four times and only in Colorado media sources.


• An Indiana woman is attacked and knocked to the ground by a German Shepherd dog. The dog she was walking, a small Sheltie mix was also attacked. Neighbors responded and managed to restrain the German Shepherd, but not before the woman was bitten twice in the face. Her small dog was so gravely injured that it was euthanized. This incident was reported in only one local Indiana newspaper.

We can’t make policy based on headlines.

All information was researched and is fully documented by Karen Delise LVT, author of
FATAL DOG ATTACKS: THE STORIES BEHIND THE STATISTICS
Anubis Press, Manorville, New York 2002

www.animalfarmfoundation.org

More excellent info can be found here: http://badrap-blog.blogspot.com/2006/11/fun-with-numbers.html


15 posted on 12/28/2006 11:06:40 AM PST by Gonzogirl (Don't believe the hype.)
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To: presidio9
Absolutely. If you follow the history of the dogs to any extent you will note that the current dog darling of these idiots has changed over time - first German Shepherds, then Dobermans, then Rotweilers, right now its Pit Bulls. Pit Bulls are not natively vicious, but they were bred to fight - to clamp down with all the power in their jaws and to NEVER give up. What people don't realize is that they were also bred to be very amenable to their human handlers. They are not all that smart and if faced with a situation in which they feel threatened and for which they have no coping skills, they simply fall back on their most basic instinct - bite down and hold on.
16 posted on 12/28/2006 12:32:08 PM PST by Roses0508 (Democracy does not guarantee equality of conditions - it only guarantees equality of opportunity.)
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Everyone seems to miss the point of this. The dogs are a red herring. They're an excuse to reduce the rights of law abiding citizens. Once a visible minority has its rights reduced, it's easy to move on to larger groups and eventually the whole population. If we don't kick, scream, yell and stop this in its tracks, your rights will be slowly whittled away.


17 posted on 12/28/2006 10:46:15 PM PST by Saradog
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To: Jhensy

IMO, one of the only smart things done in the city of Detroit in recent years has been the decision of its Animal Control to euthanize ALL pbts in its custody. Detroit barely has the resources to keep AC up and running. With no pbts to house and feed, it gives a lot of other dogs a better chance of being adopted.


18 posted on 12/29/2006 6:07:19 AM PST by grellis
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To: presidio9
Anytime the words "Pit Bull" hit the press, there is all ways some off set statistic about some kind mauling they are responsible for."Responsible for 15% of animal attacks in NYC Vallone states". First of all its the most popular breed of dog in existence.Especially in NYC.When Vallone refers to animal attacks he is referring to ANYTHING which is an ANIMAL. How many rat bites where there in this pole??? Cat scratches ETC... I wish I could publicly contest ANYONE who opposes this fantastic breed. They wouldn't stand a chance. In the last 10 years I have obtained and placed more of todays Pit Bulldogs in good homes then anyone I have herd of. Pit Bulls are without question as good as any breed there is for family companionship. I can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. What I say is fact and not to be argued. Just explained. I think we need to look long and hard at the child abuser/molester problem which is... Why do these people get to live?? Everything starts with children. Why are people picking on dogs??
19 posted on 12/29/2006 8:49:52 PM PST by PIT BULLDDOG
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