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North American Union-The Amero
Critical Issues Bulletins ^ | 1999 | Herbert G. Grubel

Posted on 12/22/2006 4:33:53 AM PST by mo

On the day the North American Monetary Union is created--perhaps on January 1, 2010--Canada, the United States, and Mexico will replace their national currencies with the amero.1 On that day, all American dollar notes and coins will be exchanged at the rate of one US dollar for one amero (). Canadian and Mexican currencies will be exchanged at rates that leave unchanged their nations' competitiveness and wealth. In all three countries, the prices of goods and services, wages, assets, and liabilities will be simultaneously converted into ameros at the rates at which currency notes are exchanged.

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Here's the nitty details of what's coming folks.....
1 posted on 12/22/2006 4:33:54 AM PST by mo
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1637620/posts?page=7#7


2 posted on 12/22/2006 4:39:43 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: mo

New currency to replace Dollar
StaggerOn.org ^ | 05-24-2006 | StaggerOn.org
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Mexico City - In the North American capital it was announced that the United States Dollar would be retired from circulation and replaced with a new currency, dubbed the "Amero". Pictured below, the currency will be phased in over time, much as the Euro was, with a cutoff date for its full implementation in 2010.
"There is no need to be alarmed," a treasury source said. "If you find some dollars in the mattress after that date you can still exchange them for Ameros at a fair market rate. You just won't be able to spend them on the open market.

From November 2006:

London Stock Trader Urges Move to 'AMERO'
World Net Daily ^ | 11/28/06 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on 11/28/2006 9:10:53 AM EST by Kimberly GG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1745110/posts

12 "..that is a lie, there is nothing called Amero except in the hallucinations of some delusional people."

15 Did this guy ever say how we can get us some of them there Ameros? The black helicopters are delivering them as we speak.

37 "I actually did some searching about the Amero. Here is what the Bank of Canada has to say: LINK

Though there are many other kinds of commodity convertibility, these are, as noted earlier (footnote 3) complicated and hence hard to explain to the public at large. That is one reason why all recent proposals for reforming Canada's monetary order that envisage replacing inflation targets with a system underpinned by convertibility rest, not on a commodity of any sort, but on either a brand new North American currency or the U.S. dollar. Given the Americans' total lack of interest in giving up a shred of control over their own currency, let alone abandoning it for something else, the only proposals among these that are practically possible are those involving either the outright unilateral adoption by Canada of the U.S. dollar as its currency, or the creation of a new Canadian currency linked to the U.S. dollar by way of a currency board.

45 To: hedgetrimmer "... you are by reputation (and my experience) an anti-free trade kook who probably believes in this Amero nonsense.


58 ".. I understand banking and monetary policy pretty well, which you do not. I repeat, anyone who thinks there will be an Amero in the near future is a barking loon.

63 woodbutcher: You are probably right that it will never happen, but I think the larger question is how this topic ever got to the point that Bush wasted time attending a discussion on the subject.

I think we're forgetting that "Bullshit, thy name is government". How many summits can you name that actually discussed anything relevant, achieved anything, or did anything that one remembered? I dare say the last time that happened was when Reagan was in the White House and he was talking to the Soviets about nuclear weapons. It's a silly, pointless idea, which the brains at the Bank of Canada say is going nowhere particularly because America won't wear it.


67 I wouldn't worry about it. What is more likely is that Mexico will dollarise - namely, they'll start using the dollar as their currency. This has happened in other Latin American countries like Ecuador; it means that they'll surrender monetary policy to the Federal Reserve, rather than America surrendering anything to them.
Of course, if your country's currency is an international joke, using the dollar does make you look better instantly. I don't see Canada giving up their currency any time soon.

79 I'll lay my cards on the table. My father is a retired banker and has worked in this area. I cannot emphasise strongly enough that this is utter bullshit. It is not happening and the folks at the Bank of Canada are absolutely correct. Getting bent out of shape every time some academic or bureaucrat talks out the side of their mouth is a recipe for an ulcer or requiring medication.


173 "... All I've seen is idiotic justifications for paranoia. One other element to consider is that in order for monetary union to take place, all 3 currencies - Canadian Dollar, US Dollar and Mexican Peso would have to be on equal footing, including part of continuous linked settlement systems. The Mexican peso is not. The European experience is also telling - it took nearly 10 years for it to occur successfully, and a lot of money spent on infrastructure, public awareness and so on. To conclude - there is no will at present to do this, there are no plans in place to do this, and it could not be achieved in the dead of night through some conspiracy of governments.

197 The reason why I'm vehement is that I'm allergic to stupidity. As I said earlier, there are plenty of things to pay attention to and worry about - this is utter humbug. Apart from airy fairy discussions, largely between academics, the idea of a single North American currency has gotten precisely nowhere. You see no actual preparations for it, there is no infrastructure ready to handle it, there has been no public awareness campaign, no treaties signed, etc. I despise the kooks for having breathed life into this imaginary demon, and when shown they are wrong, refuse to let it drop. I hope this makes my position clear.

211 What is it about a VP of Jefferies that would make the "Amero" a good idea? What is it about a VP of Jefferies that gives him the inside scoop about "secret" government meetings? Wow, a VP, I'm impressed! LOL!


231 And he's basically an OIL TRADER! LOL


259 The only worry I have about our currency is the threat of George Soros. I wonder if alarmists about a North American Union are not deliberately trying to divert our attention away from an amoral megalomaniac who buys elections, revolutions, and has wrecked the currencies of three countries.

If you want a clear sign of what is actually happening note that we are implementing stricter controls of those entering the country by requiring they all have passports. That was fought by both Canada and Mexico and has been in the works for several years. We also collect biometric data on those who enter, now. I know it is not perfect and some still enter illegally, but we are light years ahead of 911 and are not moving to open borders or a North American Union. Note that after 911 John Ashcrost wanted to talk to 10,000 awol ME men. Recently, 10 Egyptian students departed from their itineraries. Law enforcement not only picked that up but quickly found them all. A lot has changed.


202 Read the damn site: Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP): Myth vs. Fact

Myth: The SPP was an agreement signed by Presidents Bush and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Waco, TX, on March 23, 2005.

Fact: The SPP is a dialogue to increase security and enhance prosperity among the three countries. The SPP is not an agreement nor is it a treaty. In fact, no agreement was ever signed.

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.

Myth: The SPP is being undertaken without the knowledge of the U.S. Congress.

Fact: U.S. agencies involved with SPP regularly update and consult with members of Congress on our efforts and plans.

Myth: The SPP infringes on the sovereignty of the United States.

Fact: The SPP respects and leaves the unique cultural and legal framework of each of the three countries intact. Nothing in the SPP undermines the U.S. Constitution. In no way does the SPP infringe upon the sovereignty of the United States.

Myth: The SPP is illegal and violates the Constitution.

Fact: The SPP is legal and in no way violates the Constitution or affects the legal authorities of the participating executive agencies. Indeed, the SPP is an opportunity for the governments of the United States, Canada, and Mexico to discuss common goals and identify ways to enhance each nationÂ’s security and prosperity. If an action is identified, U.S. federal agencies can only operate within U.S. law to address these issues. The Departments of Commerce and Homeland Security coordinate the efforts of the agencies responsible for the various initiatives under the prosperity and security pillars of the SPP. If an agency were to decide a regulatory change is desirable through the cooperative efforts of SPP, that agency is required to conform to all existing U.S. laws and administrative procedures, including an opportunity to comment.

Myth: The SPP will cost U.S. taxpayers money.

Fact: The SPP is being implemented with existing budget resources. Over the long-term, it will save U.S. taxpayers money by cutting through costly red tape and reducing redundant paperwork. This initiative will benefit the taxpayers through economic gain and increased security, thereby enhancing the competitiveness and quality of life in our countries.

Myth: The working groups and SPP documents are a secret and not available to the public.

Fact: The SPPÂ’s initiatives and milestones with timelines can be found by clicking the Report to Leaders link at www.spp.gov. The Web site contains a section to enable interested persons to provide input directly to the various working groups.

Myth: The SPP seeks to lower U.S. standards through a regulatory cooperation framework.

Fact: The framework will support and enhance cooperation and encourage the compatibility of regulations among the three partners while maintaining high standards of health and safety. Enhanced cooperation in this area will provide consumers with more affordable, safer, and more diversified and innovative products. Any regulatory changes will require agencies to conform to all U.S. administrative procedures, including an opportunity to comment.

Myth: The SPP is meant to deal with immigration reform and trade disputes.

Fact: Immigration reform is a legislative matter currently being debated in Congress and is not being dealt with in the SPP. Likewise, trade disputes between the United States, Canada, and Mexico are resolved in the NAFTA and WTO mechanisms and not the SPP.

Myth: The SPP will result in the loss of American jobs.

Fact: The SPP seeks to create jobs by reducing transaction costs and unnecessary burdens for U.S. companies, which will bolster the competitiveness of our firms globally. These efforts will help U.S. manufacturers, spur job creation, and benefit consumers.

Myth: The SPP will harm our quality of life.

Fact: The SPP improves the safety and well-being of Americans. It builds on efforts to protect our environment, improves our ability to combat infectious diseases, such as avian influenza, and ensures our food supply is safe through the exchange of information and cooperation improving the quality of life for U.S. citizens. Americans enjoy world class living standards because we are engaged with the world.

Myth: The SPP creates a NAFTA-plus legal status between the three countries.

Fact: The SPP does not seek to rewrite or renegotiate NAFTA. It creates no NAFTA-plus legal status.
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You can shut up and sit at the back of the room now.

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More from 05/22/2006:

The Plan to Replace the Dollar With the 'Amero'
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Human Events Online ^ | 5-22-06 | Jerome R. Corsi
The idea to form the North American Union as a super-NAFTA knitting together Canada, the United States and Mexico into a super-regional political and economic entity was a key agreement resulting from the March 2005 meeting held at Baylor University in Waco, Tex., between President Bush, President Fox and Prime Minister Martin.


The Plan to Replace the Dollar With the 'Amero'
Posted by Iam1ru1-2
On News/Activism 05/22/2006 6:42:25 PM EDT · 114 replies · 1,967+ views

RaiderNewsService.com ^ | Jerome R. Corsi
by Jerome R. Corsi The idea to form the North American Union as a super-NAFTA knitting together Canada, the United States and Mexico into a super-regional political and economic entity was a key agreement resulting from the March 2005 meeting held at Baylor University in Waco, Tex., between President Bush, President Fox and Prime Minister Martin. A joint statement published by the three presidents following their Baylor University summit announced the formation of an initial entity called, “The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” (SPP). The joint statement termed the SPP a “trilateral partnership” that was aimed at producing...


3 posted on 12/22/2006 4:42:44 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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From Wikipedia:

Gordon Gibson (born 1937) is a right-of-centre political columnist, author, and former politician in British Columbia (BC), Canada. He is the son of the late Gordon Gibson Sr, who was a prominent businessman and Liberal Party politician in mid-1950s BC.

Gibson studied at the University of British Columbia, Harvard Business School and the London School of Economics.

Gibson served as assistant to the federal Minister of Northern Affairs from 1963 to 1968, and was a special assistant to the Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau from 1968 to 1972. He ran as a federal Liberal candidate for the Canadian House of Commons in the 1972 federal election, but lost to Progressive Conservative candidate John Fraser by 3,000 votes.

Gibson won election to the Legislative Assembly of British Columbia by winning a 1974 by-election as a British Columbia Liberal Party candidate.

After three Members of the Legislative Assembly defected to the Social Credit Party three months prior to the 1975 provincial election, party leader David Anderson declined to be renominated for the position.

Gibson and Anderson were the only remaining Liberal MLAs. Gibson was approached to lead the party into the election. He won the party's only seat in the 1975 election.

He remained party leader until 1979, when he resigned to run again for a seat in the federal House of Commons. He was defeated in both the 1979 and 1980 federal elections. He lost to Progressive Conservative candidate Chuck Cook by less than 2,000 votes on both attempts.

He attempted to return to politics as a candidate in the 1993 provincial leadership convention, but came in second to future BC Premier Gordon Campbell.

Gibson has been a senior fellow in Canadian Studies at the Fraser Institute since 1993, and has written several books on Canadian federalism and governance. Following the 2001 provincial election, Gibson was hired by the government to make recommendations on the structure and mandate of the Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Gibson"

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I'll believe the Amero is a thing of the future but only after Esperanto is approved as the Worldwide Universal Language of the "new age".

4 posted on 12/22/2006 4:43:04 AM PST by Alia
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To: Brian Allen; David

ping


5 posted on 12/22/2006 4:43:32 AM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: mo

Wonderful.


6 posted on 12/22/2006 4:47:14 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: mo

The Fraser Institute was founded in 1974 to redirect public attention to the role markets can play in providing for the economic and social well-being of Canadians.

Tells me all I need to know.


7 posted on 12/22/2006 4:55:09 AM PST by Carbonado
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To: mo
Where will the money be printed? If we find out they are engraving plates then I'll start to worry. My guess is that it would take about 2 to 3 years from conception to actual printing.

Of course, if they are doing this in mexico printing houses then we can rest assured the security will be high and there will be no counterfeiters.

8 posted on 12/22/2006 4:56:56 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: mo

Amero? What a wussie name. Sounds too much like 'euro'.

How about North American Dollar. (You got the NADs for that?)


9 posted on 12/22/2006 5:11:46 AM PST by CPOSharky (Lib speak: If it ain't broke, fix it til it is.)
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To: mo

I kinda like the Dollaro........


10 posted on 12/22/2006 5:12:39 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: mo
On the day the North American Monetary Union is created--perhaps on January 1, 2010--Canada, the United States, and Mexico will replace their national currencies with the amero.1 On that day, all American dollar notes and coins will be exchanged at the rate of one US dollar for one amero (). Canadian and Mexican currencies will be exchanged at rates that leave unchanged their nations' competitiveness and wealth.

Translation - when you're currency isn't valued as high as your neighbors', merge with them in a sham "trading bloc' so the value of your currency is increased and the value of the dollar plummets further!!

And, don't look for wage increases to compensate for the loss of purchasing power!!

Smaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrtt!!!!
11 posted on 12/22/2006 5:14:52 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Tells me all I need to know.

Read on.
The Fraser institute is hated by the left in Canada for espousing a conservative viewpoint.

The Amero idea is extremely unlikely to happen.
Any patriotic American or Canadian will viscerally oppose it as a perceived loss of national sovereignty.
I can imagine the response up here, "I'd have to be crazy to give up my Loonie"

This is one fellow's opinion published in 1999.
Of the reasons he mentions in support of it is a very low Canadian dollar,
which is no longer the case,
and the fact that in Europe it has facilitated commerce and travel
by eliminating the need to exchange the many currencies,
in N.A. this problem is much less acute.
Also he seems not to take into account that one of the prime motivations for an European currency
as well as European political unity is an aftermath of the two wars,
by binding the nations together it was hoped to dull the nationalism that led to those wars,
again not a factor in N.A.
imho

12 posted on 12/22/2006 6:05:00 AM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: kanawa; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...
Canada ping.

Please send me a FReepmail to get on or off this Canada ping list.

13 posted on 12/22/2006 7:40:38 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: mo; All
If anyone with common sense were to realize that the proposed 'amero' dollar is just TOO close (in fact *identical*) to the name of one of Canada's most infamous, man-hating, military-loathing, feminazi 'net kooks' aka 'Barbara Amero', they would abandon that name at ONCE:

Google 'Barbara Amero' and check out not only the web references but especially the Usenet newsgroup contributions of the foul old sow.

I'm serious:

http://www.google.ca/search?as_q=&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=barbara+amero&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images
14 posted on 12/22/2006 8:00:12 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: mo
Oh, Canada! Stephen King may now be writing a book about the North American Union. I think he will call it Pet Cemetary.

More liberal disinformation to fan the chicken little flames that Canada is going down the raod to her own extinction.

Much like Global Swarming.

Or Quebecs GONNA LEAVE!!!!

OR

GUN CONTROL or we will be overwhelmed by shooters of our wimmen!

And NOW! We are about to be AMERO-ized!!

The liberals have already cried WOLF once too often. In case they havn't noticed, they are out of power for the forseeable futuire because of it. But its the only game they know. So we will wait for more laughs in the land of the Great Northern Porcupine.

The libs will circulate anything they can to induce fear into the Canadian Public , from which ( OH Surprise!) only the liberals can save the nation!

In the USA,even John Kerry thought he could get away with that approach. Al Gore still thinks he can get away with it. Dumb and dumber.

Chicken Littles ALL. And all a gross insult to the public intelligence.

15 posted on 12/22/2006 12:25:14 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: mo
Considering the American dollar is already widely used in all three countries, why not simply use the American dollar.

And for opinion on the future of the United States, Canada, and Mexico: From FRhomepage.

Useful for the people of all the countries involved.

16 posted on 12/22/2006 5:48:37 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: CPOSharky

That is why opponents to NAFTA use the term Amero, to get people to figure that the big North American countries will form some sort of EU (though the situation is not very much the same, one huge country, and only three member states).


17 posted on 12/22/2006 5:51:24 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
though the situation is not very much the same, one huge country, and only three member states

If the PTB are thinking region, then South America would be part of it, later. That would be closer to the EU.

18 posted on 12/22/2006 5:56:47 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: mo
Oh, Canada! Stephen King may now be writing a book about the North American Union. I think he will call it Pet Cemetary.

More liberal disinformation to fan the chicken little flames that Canada is going down the raod to her own extinction.

Much like Global Swarming.

Or Quebecs GONNA LEAVE!!!!

OR

GUN CONTROL or we will be overwhelmed by shooters of our wimmen!

And NOW! We are about to be AMERO-ized!! Ramp up the foreign investment review board, keep the Yankees OUT!

The liberals have already cried WOLF once too often. In case they havn't noticed, they are out of power for the forseeable future because of it. But its the only game they know. So we will wait for more laughs in the land of the Great Northern Porcupine.

The libs will circulate anything they can to induce fear into the Canadian Public , from which ( OH Surprise!) only the liberals can save the nation!

In the USA,even John Kerry thought he could get away with that approach. Al Gore still thinks he can get away with it. Dumb and dumber.

Chicken Littles ALL. And all a gross insult to the public intelligence.

Canadians must now be tired of continually thinking they will be struck by a liberal defined lightening bolt. Canada needs to get on with building itself into a powerful economic engine, and not let the froggies slow it down by side tracking Canada into woll gathering " Je me souviens " issues. Enough all ready!

Ask yourself why Canada's Western oil is not distributed further eastward beyond the artificial political boundary of the Ottawa River Valley, Canada could easily have $1.00 a gallon gas.A fact which no one teaches in Canadian High Schools. Solve that problem and there is no holding Canada back.

19 posted on 12/23/2006 3:49:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: William Terrell
PTB? The FTAA would cover the entire hemisphere, but even still, the United States alone makes up around 30% of the population of the Americas (300 million of a population of around 1 billion-- actually 935 million according to this site.). Germany (with the largest EU population) has some 90 million to the EU's roughly 460 million (currently). (so a little less than 20% to a little more than 30%).
20 posted on 12/23/2006 2:50:23 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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