Posted on 12/13/2006 10:38:31 AM PST by Sonora
There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a "health food," one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food.
The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore.
I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens.
Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your "female side," physically and mentally.
In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen.
If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal.
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You don't get half as much done in a day as you used, too, I bet.
Suffice to say I have discovered a huge difference between the meanings of "alone" versus "lonely".
I'm always near my two best friends, and it's ALWAYS "quality time".
I think a reality check is in order here. Both the Japanese and the Chinese use soy products extensively. If soy products "feminized" males, then those societies ought to be top heavy with gay men - perfect test cases if you will.
In addition, I grew up vegetarian - used a lot of soy based meat substitutes. I eat meat now, ate meat while my children were growing up, but we still prefer the substitutes. My son is definitely all male (big muscles, combat medic, girl crazy). Most of my peers were also vegetarians - not one single solitary gay guy in the group. The peer group to which I belonged growing up had been consuming the soy products for generations. Again they should have been a perfect test case, but I'm willing to wager that the number of gay persons by population is very low for that group.
There is also a food that reduces the female sex drive by 90%.
It's called "Wedding Cake."
The short answer: NO!
The long answer: If your view of the world is limited to black and white, maybe; but I don't think so.
Our society insists on perpetuating the primitive tribal impulse to "have to belong"; We call it "parties". To participate in the democratic process we are forced to choose.
I do not have a label, nor do I wish to have one.
Superficially I am a registered Democrat, but have not voted fot that party 95% of my life, although I have on occasion voted for a Democrat. The dynamics are way beyond the limitations of this thread.
Let me just say that most educated, aware and informed adults will admit that the question is not presently one of science, but one of opinion. My personal view continues to be that "gayness" has always been and will continue to be a choice.
wow, here I thought you had to sniff pickles or like it up the pooper to be gay. Who knew?
Yeah, right.....the "newbies" are given soy-laced diets.
Yeah, so what? Saying that isoflavones are phytoestrogens is just another gross mischaracterization of the issue by those who don't understand it. Unlike estrogen, isloflavones are tissue selective and can have estrogen-like effects in some tissue but either no effects or antiestrogenic effects in other tissues. There are a number of recent studies that clearly show how different isoflavones are from estrogen. Applying the term phytoestrogen to isoflavones is terribly misleading since it doesn't fully or accurately describe isoflavones.
All your link has shown us is that correlations can be indicative but in most cases they don't prove a thing.
I always continue to wonder which is worse: to be wrong due to ignorance or to lie by ommision.
Aside from the medical jargon and the weapon of big words, I was struck by your clumsy attempt at derailing the main subject through sophistry.
In your various comments, you studiously avoided the critical period between a month after birth through adolescence.
Cons Pretty in Pink Clink (Sheriff Joe Arpaio parades perps in pink, civil-libertarians seethe) (April 21, 2005)
Convicts were forced to march to a new top-security jail — wearing just pink underpants and flip-flops to deter escape bids.Prison bosses reckoned the 700 hardmen would be too embarrassed to go on the run in gay-style garb.
Muscle-bound, tattooed thugs were linked with pink handcuffs for the two-mile hike. And when they reached the new clink in Phoenix, Arizona, one con had to cut a pink ribbon to open it.
Tough Sheriff Joe Arpaio said: “I put them on the street so everybody could see them. They can see this is what happens to people who break the law.”
Interesting. Soy makes up about 12% of the diet of the elders on Okinawa. That's a lot of soy. These same people live longer than anyone else on the planet and have some of the lowest rates of cancer and Alzheimer's in the world. There have been several studies conducted on Okinawans and it's been shown that Okinawans are at extremely low risk for hormone–dependent cancers, including cancers of the breast, prostate, ovaries, and colon. Compared to North Americans, they have a 80 percent less breast cancer and prostate cancer, and less than half the ovarian cancer and colon cancer.
Is soy the reason for this? I don't know but don't you find it interesting that the lowest cancer rates in the industrialized world are found in an area that also has the highest per-capita consumption of soy?
Well, that's were being a conservative, if your statement is true relating to being a conservative is not something that I can ever agree with.
Acting out is the only choice, being gay is from birth and wired into the brain. As far a passing on genes, lots of gays get married and have lots of children - if it is about genes - they are passed around all the time.
Have you personally thought this issue through, logically?
Just look at all those gay Chinese people out there.
(Rolling eyes.)
Joe Arpaio for President!
"All this talk of war, it's no surprise that she went commando. Besides, think of it like a micro-thong. Maybe she really was wearing dental floss"
Oh, so maybe she was simply "supporting the troops," like all good Democrats are obliged to say every time they bash the troops and the USA?
Then keep mainlining soy.
Two comments: First, it is my understanding that there is little red meat, if any, in their diet and second, I think there is ample research showing that different racial groups react differently to many different types of food. For instance, something near 90 percent of asians are lactose intolerant. The soy phytoestrogen research was done in this country, where a majority of the people are caucasian. Perhaps the Okinawans, ethnic asians, have evolved to develop a greater ability to consume soy than caucasians have. I really don't know, but I do know a little bit about the research done in this country where, thank heavens, we are free do eat what we want and research it for ourselves.
Except for all those Asians who've been consuming it for thousands of years and enjoy some of the highest life expectancies in the world.
Environmental scientists are worried about low levels of estrogenic compounds in water -- giving soy to a baby may be a far worse threat....
Did these do gooder scientists happen to to say what they'd give a baby in place of the dangerous soy milk that meets the baby's need for high quality protein if they're allergic to milk? What nonsense. Soy milk provides more than 10 times as much essential fatty acids as cow’s milk. Cow's milk contains more than nine times as much saturated fat as soy milk. Soy milk is cholesterol-free, while cow’s milk contains 34 mg of cholesterol per cup. Soy milk lowers both total and LDL cholesterol levels, while cow’s milk raises both total and LDL cholesterol levels plus is a great source of high quality protein that infants absolutely must have.
Well, some of us, who are so conservative that anything since 1453 counts as "new", are happy there is *something* protein-laden that we can eat during fasts, that can be made to taste like something other than beans and chick-peas. (Of course the other 185 or so days a year, bring on the roast lamb, gyro,. . .).
A bit further east than Orthodox lands, Buddhist monks have known for centuries that soy foods blunt male sexual desire, so that they are regarded as an aid to contemplation. Hardly a recipe for turning men 'gay' since male homosexuals seem to have sexual desire as the main component of their personality and self-definition.
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