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'Apocalypto' Is More 'Mad Max' Than Mayan
Fox News ^ | December 01, 2006 | Roger Friedman

Posted on 12/01/2006 3:38:06 AM PST by AmericaUnited

'Apocalypto' Is More 'Mad Max' Than Mayan

With the subtlety of several thousand flying mallets and arrows, here comes Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto," a two hour plus torture-fest so violent that women and children will be headed to the doors faster than you can say "duck" when the film opens on Dec. 8th.

Indeed, 'Apocalypto' is the most violent movie Disney has ever released, with so much blood spurting out of orifices that even Martin Scorsese would blush. If you've ever wondered what it would be like to see heads and hearts removed without anesthesia, then this is the movie for you. "Grey's Anatomy" it is not.

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"Apocalypto" surpasses "The Passion" in every way as a movie about pain, flagellation and wounding. The grotesqueries are almost numbing, and at some point they become laughable. But all the while, you're thinking, what's the point here? If "Apocalypto" was supposed to be about that transitional civilization, where is it? After two hours and several minutes of squirming and covering eyes, you start to think that "Apocalypto" exists just to show violence for itself. The point is lost.

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To: AmericaUnited

I'll have to wait and see on whether to watch it or not.
However, the violence does not terribly surprise me. The Mayans were a very brutal race. In fact, the guy who was the head of my college community group feels that the reason why the Mayans all mysteriously vanished without a trace was because God wiped them out for practicing human sacrifice.


41 posted on 12/01/2006 5:06:23 AM PST by Chewie84
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To: AmericaUnited

I know nothing about this movie. When I saw it was about the Mayans, I thought, "Oh no, the noble Indian faces the evil Western European Spaniards." But from what I am reading here, perhaps it is not so one-dimensional. I will wait and see.


42 posted on 12/01/2006 5:07:42 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: AmericaUnited
Mel seems to be pulling a bit of a Tarentino here.

The movie should do quite well.

43 posted on 12/01/2006 5:08:12 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Chewie84
Why watch an intensely evil people, practicing evil for two hours? Why?
44 posted on 12/01/2006 5:08:55 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Gibson is basically right. The Mayans were incredibly violent.

Indeed they were. Above is one of the many friezes surrounding the "ball court" at Chitzen Itza. Just above and to the right of the turf is one of the "ball players" being decapitated while on bended knee. Above from the left corner of the turf is his head. It's speculated that the losing (or maybe the winning) team was dispatched right there on the field at the conclusion of the ball game as a sacrifice to the gods or the king or something else.

45 posted on 12/01/2006 5:11:45 AM PST by angkor
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To: robertpaulsen

You might be wrong that that "Hollywood would love for Gibson to fail, and they'll do anything to hasten it." They also LOVE VIOLENT MOVIES and BLOODBATHS as long as they're not religious.
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Quote from PETER TRAVERS at Rolling Stone....

""This being Gibson, there's more to the film than the rush. It's impossible not to see parallels to our own cultured civilization, one that knowingly destroys its environment and sends troops to Iraq as human sacrifices.""

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/9387680/review/12626008/apocalypto?source=movie_reviews_rssfeed


46 posted on 12/01/2006 5:12:29 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: AmericaUnited

Maybe he'll do a movie on MS-13 next.

I agree, the man is seriously mentally ill. Sure the Mayans were a violent lot. But they also spent an immense amount of time building their magnificent cities, with all that hieroglyphic writing carved in the stones, developed that beautiful and complex calendar, etc. I wonder how much time Gibson's movie devotes to that sort of thing. Not much, I'd guess, since his sick mind is drawn to anger and violence.


47 posted on 12/01/2006 5:13:36 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: AmericaUnited
Sounds like Mr. Friedman has issues with Mr. Gibson and his precieved anti-semitism. Could it be it is clouding his rationally judging this Movie?????

Of course, "Apocalypto" arrives with a lot of baggage. Gibson — an admitted alcoholic who denies being Anti-Semitic despite evidence to the contrary — is kind of a marked man.

48 posted on 12/01/2006 5:17:07 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
Could it be it is clouding his rationally judging this Movie

What part of the review related to the blood/gore, intensity and amount, do you think is wrong?

49 posted on 12/01/2006 5:19:33 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
spelling:

that would be perceived anti-semitism......

50 posted on 12/01/2006 5:21:07 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: dawn53

The thing about Gibson is that he picks subjects for his movies and then decides to portray them realistically.

How refreshing. I am so sick of movies "based on" historic figures and events that are so twisted you can't recognize them.


51 posted on 12/01/2006 5:21:20 AM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: AmericaUnited
a two hour plus torture-fest so violent that women and children will be headed to the doors faster than you can say "duck

Sounds good to me!! I can't wait to see it.
52 posted on 12/01/2006 5:21:46 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I guess we need to have Disney animate them ala Pocahontas for the "real" story. Show what peace-loving environmentalist New Agers they were.


53 posted on 12/01/2006 5:21:48 AM PST by Blogger
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To: AmericaUnited
I have no problem with the blood and gore if it is not gratuitous.

.....this is not a slasher flick...it is real history. These things DID HAPPEN.
54 posted on 12/01/2006 5:22:39 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: AmericaUnited

I have several grandchildren adopted from Guatemala and have been down to Tikal to see the ruins. The Mayans were not a bunch of boy scouts, that's for sure. They were brilliant and violent. I intended to see this movie, but now it sounds like my wife won't come with me and unless I can get my son-in-law to go, I may be waiting until it comes out on cable.


56 posted on 12/01/2006 5:24:16 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Chewie84
The Mayans were a very brutal race. In fact, the guy who was the head of my college community group feels that the reason why the Mayans all mysteriously vanished without a trace was because God wiped them out for practicing human sacrifice.

Maybe by that same mechanism Gibson's movie career will vanish witout a trace.

One can hope.

57 posted on 12/01/2006 5:25:17 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: AmericaUnited

I would expect the movie disturbs the liberal meme of the noble and peaceful American aboriginals.


58 posted on 12/01/2006 5:26:36 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: AmericaUnited

True, but that's my point! That's why Gibson chose to do a whole movie about them. There's something mentally unbalanced upstairs.


Maybe so, but it is good that an accurate depiction is being made. Maybe the idea that the new world was Disneyland until the evil Europeans arrived will take a hit.


59 posted on 12/01/2006 5:26:41 AM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: Vaquero
What has Gibson done that demonstrates his supposed anti-semitism? Oh, I know what he said, once, when he was arrested. I'm asking what he's done. Anything?
60 posted on 12/01/2006 5:28:20 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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