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2,000-year-old shipwreck yields hundreds of jars
Knoxville News Sentinel ^ | November 19, 2006 | Daniel Woolls

Posted on 11/19/2006 8:08:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv


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There was a USA Today article last week, which we can't use, but luckily this came along.

2,000-year-old shipwreck yields hundreds of jars

1 posted on 11/19/2006 8:08:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 11/19/2006 8:08:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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> Its cargo of an estimated 1,500 well-preserved clay amphoras has been found to have contained fish sauce - a prized condiment for wealthy Romans <

Interesting! I thought fish sauce was exclusively a Chinese-Vietnamese-Thai-Filippino madness!


3 posted on 11/19/2006 8:17:54 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn
Fish Sauce......

It can't go bad because it already has!

4 posted on 11/19/2006 8:19:51 PM PST by shadowcat
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To: SunkenCiv

My car tells me that the door is a jar - I just don't understand...


5 posted on 11/19/2006 8:24:21 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Hawthorn

Nope, it was very popular in Roman times. Generically called liquamen, the best known Roman-era brand was Garum; that was made by a family (Garus I think) which thrived in and around the Bay of Naples.


6 posted on 11/19/2006 8:27:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Cars are too pushy nowadays, unless they break down, in which case it's the other way around.


7 posted on 11/19/2006 8:28:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

More Here with a pic.

Dont know what took them so long. 80 feet of water is a leisurely rec dive.

8 posted on 11/19/2006 8:31:47 PM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: Delta 21

Thanks!


9 posted on 11/19/2006 8:38:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
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10 posted on 11/19/2006 8:46:27 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
When they say "fish sauce" they really mean it!

......flashbacks to the Ronco Bass-O-Matic 76.

Aint modern technology a wonderful thing.

11 posted on 11/19/2006 8:51:34 PM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: Hawthorn

Romans called it garam. Apicius' Cookbook uses it in a lot of recipes.The Romans apparently used the for the same purpose southeast Asians do - as an economical, rich source of protein in their diet.


12 posted on 11/19/2006 9:14:27 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Delta 21
Dont know what took them so long. 80 feet of water is a leisurely rec dive.

That's what caught my eye. How was this just discovered? Was something hiding it?

13 posted on 11/19/2006 9:29:33 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Think *Worcestershire sauce* instead! Yummmmm.


14 posted on 11/19/2006 11:24:24 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Judith Anne

"Was something hiding it"?



Maybe a big cloud of murky, smelly water!


15 posted on 11/19/2006 11:36:12 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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"The ship, estimated to be 100 feet long with a capacity for around 400 tons of cargo, is twice the size of most other Roman shipwrecks found in the Mediterranean, de Juan said in an interview with The Associated Press."

How can it be that ships this size never took a jaunt across the Atlantic, given 400 tons of cargo will keep a crew fed for quite a while?


16 posted on 11/20/2006 4:28:25 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: SunkenCiv

Sounds like a Geraldo find. Fishsauce?


17 posted on 11/20/2006 4:35:22 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: FastCoyote
Good god, Man. Get ahold of yourself !

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18 posted on 11/20/2006 5:20:49 AM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: FastCoyote; Delta 21

The Romans moved 200+ ton quarried stone objects to Rome from Egypt, so these 400 ton displacement vessels were not rare. Until modern times, I don't think anyone moved larger cargoes by sea than the Romans.

Regarding American voyages, here's a topic or two about that very idea, right here on FR.

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19 posted on 11/20/2006 6:15:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Hatteras

Did they? Didn't they? They didn't! They did.

The debate is a fishsauce circle.


20 posted on 11/20/2006 6:16:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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