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Zune Beats iPod: How Apple Can Learn from Microsoft’s Success
Digital Trends ^ | 11/17/2006 | Rob Enderle

Posted on 11/19/2006 12:25:48 AM PST by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 11/19/2006 12:25:51 AM PST by Swordmaker
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To: 1234; 6SJ7; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; anonymous_user; ...
YES! It's true... the title of the article tells it all - Zune Beats iPod: How Apple Can Learn from Microsoft’s Success

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2 posted on 11/19/2006 12:28:29 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: martin_fierro

Ping...


3 posted on 11/19/2006 12:29:33 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

No doubt Microsoft was dismayed that people weren't rioting in the streets for Zunes, like they were for Sony Playstations. There were no lines of people camped out for days in front of BestBuy to get a Zune. Zune is the biggest Microsoft flop since "Bob".


4 posted on 11/19/2006 12:34:56 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

The Zune is the personal digital music player market's equivalent of the Lada Riva. Produced by an enormous corporation, lots of features on paper, but the product completely misses the point, the features don't work, and the thing tanks horribly. (You can also substitute "Yugo" for "Lada".)


5 posted on 11/19/2006 12:41:48 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Swordmaker

Evidently, the Zune software isn't any good either:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/installing-the-zune-sucked/


6 posted on 11/19/2006 12:52:51 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I know my kids won't have one. They are completely contemptuous of the Zune. Even the name....


7 posted on 11/19/2006 3:58:56 AM PST by Shimmer128
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To: Swordmaker

How much did Microsoft pay for this article?

And isn't it true that Zune doesn't work w/ Vista?

(Snicker - I think I'll keep my ipod)


8 posted on 11/19/2006 4:45:53 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Swordmaker
What about the other mp3 devices? The media makes it seem as though it is only Apple and Microsoft. That is isn't very fair.

Yes, life isn't fair, but still.

9 posted on 11/19/2006 4:52:12 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Angry? http://www.freerepublic.com/~jedimasterpikachu/ (Could simply be misunderstanding).)
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To: Swordmaker

And what's mp3 for, anyway, multi-something?


10 posted on 11/19/2006 4:53:08 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Angry? http://www.freerepublic.com/~jedimasterpikachu/ (Could simply be misunderstanding).)
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To: KosmicKitty
How much did Microsoft pay for this article?

If they did . . .

Re-read it :-)

11 posted on 11/19/2006 5:36:04 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Swordmaker

Funny article. Almost sad people are missing the sarcasm. I still like my shuffle, though - it's great to take when I go hiking. My 60 gig ipod feels like a brick in comparison.


12 posted on 11/19/2006 5:37:22 AM PST by Salo
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To: HAL9000
No doubt Microsoft was dismayed that people weren't rioting in the streets for Zunes, like they were for Sony Playstations

Well, when your supposed hot new product that everyone has to have won't even work with the next-generation OS you're now rolling out onto the shelves, I'd say you have a bit of a problem.

13 posted on 11/19/2006 6:15:26 AM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Swordmaker

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14 posted on 11/19/2006 6:29:35 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959)
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To: HAL9000
I loved Bob.
15 posted on 11/19/2006 6:33:10 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (...a urethral syringe used to treat syphilis with mercury.)
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To: eagle_talon

Another fine effort by Microsuck.


16 posted on 11/19/2006 6:54:53 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: Tribune7

Oops

Bad, KItty, bad. Do not post before coffee :-)


17 posted on 11/19/2006 7:06:02 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Swordmaker
The Zune and the accompanying music store does have its flaws, but truth be told, so does the iPod. Microsoft has demonstrated that it IS possible to produce a compact device with these features: The Zune interface is also at least as good (I think better) than that on the iPod, proving that Apple doesn't have a monopoly on good interface design.

Where Microsoft screwed up was in abandoning their existing, semi-open DRM. If they had not done that, I would have gladly tossed my 3G iPod in the trash and switched. I am really tired of closed DRM schemes that prevent me from using my content on more than one device. However, I suspect the reasons behind that were more to do with the fact that PlaysForSure was cracked recently and concerns about being able to sign up the record labels.

The truth is, Apple has a virtual monopoly on this market now, and as long as there isn't a serious competitor they really have little motivation to advance the platform. How long will Apple sit on the large screen version of the iPod?

18 posted on 11/19/2006 7:20:50 AM PST by Scutter
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Microsoft hasn't proven anything, since the Zune is a repackaged Toshiba GigaBeat S - only slight modifications.

1. Large screen - well, that hasn't helped the GigaBeat S, since it has failed to make a dent in the iPod's sales. And a large screen means a bigger device, which people have emphatically demonstrated that they do not want.
2. Some people have been very vocal about wanting the FM tuner, but Apple keeps surveying their customers and a tuner isn't high on the list of what their actual customers want.
3. Um, the buggy screaming pig on Windows? Other than the OS itself? And the Zune software appears to have even *more* problems than that. iTunes/Windows looks like a shining example of reliability compared to that.


19 posted on 11/19/2006 8:07:06 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

It's short for MPegaudio layer 3. MPEG is short for "Moving Pictures Experts Group."

As for the media, Apple has 75%+ of the digital audio player market. Microsoft is in the uncomfortable position of trying to break into a market dominated by someone else, who has learned from the screwings that they have received from M$ in the past. That makes for an interesting story - especially given the fact that the iPod's popularity has killed off at *least* three good-sized companies who were competing with it (and failing).



20 posted on 11/19/2006 8:10:54 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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