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College Football - Live Thread - Week Twelve
Sportsline.com Scoreboard ^ | Thursday November 16th to Saturday November 18th

Posted on 11/16/2006 2:36:27 PM PST by MikefromOhio

Weekend Eleven threw the entire BCS mess into an even bigger mess if that is possible. No fewer than 3 one loss teams lost (Texas, Auburn, Cal) while another one (Florida) needed to block 3 kicks to win their game 17-16 against South Carolina. This week is the week that just about everyone in the national media has been waiting for. The greatest rivalry in college football renews and that game finds that Ohio State is #1 and Michigan is #2 for the first time in the 102 game history of this game.



Saturday, November 18th, 2006 (ABC)

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(2) Michigan at (1) Ohio State (-7)


It doesn’t get any better than this. For the FIRST time ever, an 11-0 Ohio State team will play an 11-0 Michigan team. For the FIRST time ever, the teams are ranked 1 and 2 in every major poll. For the FIRST time ever, the loser of this game will end up in the Rose Bowl. This is the best rivalry in college football, and this one clearly has the best setup of any of those previous 102 games.

Ohio State and Michigan have both played dominant defense and very well on offense. Ohio State has a Heisman candidate in Troy Smith and Michigan has a Heisman candidate in Mike Hart. Ohio State has a coach that has brought a new focus to this rivalry whereas Michigan has the coach who was so dominant in this rivalry that Ohio State was forced to make a change. Does it sound like I’m having issues picking this game? Really I’m not. Every comparison for these teams shows that Ohio State is better on offense while Michigan is better on defense except for scoring defense. In the end, this game will come down to who makes the bigger plays. I think Troy Smith, who has burned Michigan each of the previous two years, will make enough plays to allow Ohio State to win this game.

Ohio State 28 – Michigan 18

Thursday, November 16th, 2006 (ESPN2 Friday Night Game)


(8) West Virginia (-10.5) at Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh started out the season looking like a contender for the Big East championship. Unfortunately loss to Rutgers about a month ago, this team seems to have lost it’s way. For WVU, this game is all about remaining in the hunt for the Big East championship. West Virginia is NOT out of the BCS National Title hunt, but needs a lot of help to get there.

WVU 44 – Pitt 20

Saturday November 18th 2006 (in ranking order)

Western Carolina at (3) Florida (NL)

Florida 53 – Western Carolina 3

(17) Cal at (4) USC (-5.5) ****UPSET WATCH****

USC 38 – Cal 31

(5) Arkansas (-15) at Mississippi St.

Arkansas 39 – Mississippi St. 12

Army at (6) Notre Dame (-28.5)

Army 70 – ND 6

Just kidding….

ND 42 – Army 10

(7) Rutgers (-6.5) at Cincinnati ****UPSET ALERT****

Cincinnati 23 – Rutgers 20

Mississippi at (9) LSU (-27)

LSU 38 – Mississippi 13

South Florida at (10) Louisville (-16.5)

Louisville 44 – South Florida 20

(11) TEXAS BYE

Buffalo at (12) Wisconsin (-38)

Wisconsin 53 – Buffalo 0

Utah St. at (13) Boise State (-37.5)

Boise St. 34 – Utah State 10

(19) Virginia Tech at (14) Wake Forest (PICK) ****UPSET WATCH****

Wake 22 – VT 18

(15) Auburn (-3) at Alabama

Auburn 23 – Alabama 17

(16) Oklahoma (-20.5) at Baylor

Oklahoma 38 – Baylor 14

Duke at (18) Georgia Tech (-26.5) ****UPSET WATCH****

Georgia Tech 21 – Duke 3

(21) Maryland at (20) Boston College (-7)

BC 24 – Maryland 21

(22) Tennessee (-8.5) at Vanderbilt

Tennessee 31 – Vandy 17

New Mexico at (23) BYU (-26.5)

BYU 42 – New Mexico 20

(24) Nebraska BYE

(25) Clemson BYE

BY REQUEST

New Mexico at (23) BYU (-26.5)

New Mexico hasn’t disappointed yet this year. I pick them, they lose. I pick against them, they win. I paper this one doesn’t look like it will be very close. Let’s see how this prediction goes….

BYU 42 – New Mexico 20

Texas A&M BYE

Western Michigan at Florida State (-16)

I never thought I would see the day that Florida State would be ONLY a 16 point favorite against a directional school. Now the good news for FSU fans is that Jeff Bowden has been canned resigned, but the bad news is that he’s still there the rest of this season.

FSU 41 – Western Michigan 12


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To: DeaconBenjamin2

Ugh Dallas I hope not


221 posted on 11/18/2006 8:37:23 PM PST by catholicfreeper (Geaux Tigers SEC FOOTBALL ROCKS)
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To: catholicfreeper
Oct. 21 Arkansas 38 ... Ole Miss 3

Perhaps you were thinking of today's game, 28-14 against State?

222 posted on 11/18/2006 8:40:05 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: GRRRRR

I live about a block north of Wittenburg's campus :)


223 posted on 11/18/2006 8:42:18 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

Who did ARk have a tough time with. I was thinking Bama and Ole Miss. I might be thinking Auburn had a tough tine for a while with Ole Miss


224 posted on 11/18/2006 8:46:35 PM PST by catholicfreeper (Geaux Tigers SEC FOOTBALL ROCKS)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...
Wow!!

What a game and what an experience today!! I don't have a voice left and the wifey had to drive home, but I'm here :)

A couple things I noticed today (hopefully these won't ramble too much)

1) Chad Henne had a pretty good game.

2) Who would've thought that Mike Hart could've had 3 TDS and Michigan would have still lost the game?

3) Who would have thought that Troy Smith would have had 4 TDs throwing, yet the game more or less came down to the final play?

4) It figures that when the two of the best statistical defenses get together they take a day off and let the offenses dominate.

5) With USC pulling the game out against Cal today, I think the BCS NC game will be OHio State v. USC. Should be a classic old school Rose Bowl type game. Too bad it won't be played in Pasadena.
225 posted on 11/18/2006 8:47:57 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

rematch


226 posted on 11/18/2006 8:50:05 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: Rosemont

Won't happen unless USC, Florida and Arkansas all lose a game.

How I think the human polls will work out tomorrow:

1) Ohio State
2) USC
3) Florida
4) Michigan
5) Arkansas
6) ND




I don't have a clue on how the Computers will view it. With Rutgers losing tonight, there goes the team that was rated 2nd best by the computers (Michigan was #1 and Ohio State was #3)....


227 posted on 11/18/2006 8:53:43 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: Rosemont

Won't happen unless USC, Florida and Arkansas all lose a game.

How I think the human polls will work out tomorrow:

1) Ohio State
2) USC
3) Florida
4) Michigan
5) Arkansas
6) ND




I don't have a clue on how the Computers will view it. With Rutgers losing tonight, there goes the team that was rated 2nd best by the computers (Michigan was #1 and Ohio State was #3)....


228 posted on 11/18/2006 8:56:19 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio
What a game and what an experience today!! I don't have a voice left and the wifey had to drive home, but I'm here :)

Wimp!! You should have drank enough to render yourself useless..thats what I always seem to do. :)
229 posted on 11/18/2006 8:57:43 PM PST by scott says
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To: scott says

well it is nearly 4 hours after the game :)

I was damn near useless for much of the first two hours of that :)


230 posted on 11/18/2006 8:58:45 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

Florida could lose to FSU, then beat Ark. That would leave me in the awful position of having to root for ND against USC. Today's OSU/UM game was awesome. BTW, the PAC 10 is overrated.


231 posted on 11/18/2006 9:01:50 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: Rosemont

IF ND beats USC impressively, they might bump them past Michigan in the computers.

That said, I don't think Florida is losing to FSU. I think the FSU fans would agree with me too.


232 posted on 11/18/2006 9:03:45 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio
OK. Not a fraud. A good team, as they had to be to beat U of M by a whopping 3 points in front of a wild home crowd.

Perhaps there will be a rematch on neutral ground. I think that would be far more of a "championship" matchup than you guys having to play USC, or the DivAA-playing Florida. Your side gets to make sure they don't make turnovers, our side gets to make sure to not commit costly penalties and high tackles.

If not, see you next year. At the Big House.

233 posted on 11/18/2006 9:15:08 PM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Yossarian

And then, if Michigan wins, we can have a third game to serve as the rubber match.


234 posted on 11/18/2006 9:17:23 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: MikefromOhio

ND pass Mich? Come on. Michigan handed their a##es to them in SOUTH BEND by FOUR TDs. No way.


235 posted on 11/18/2006 9:18:36 PM PST by Rosemont
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Troy Smith cemented the Heisman today. Colt McCoy does NOT deserve the Heisman, but it is amazing how similar their numbers are (and why Colt should be one of the Heisman frontrunners for next year):

RANK - NAME - CMP - ATT - YDS -- CMP% - YDS/A -- TD - INT -- SACKS - RATING

4. Colt McCoy --- 174 - 250 - 2102 ------ 69.6 -- 8.4 ------ 27 - 4 ------ 12 --- 172.67

6. Troy Smith ---- 170 - 256 - 2191 ------ 66.4 -- 8.6 ------ 26 - 4 ------ 12 --- 168.69

Note that Colt did it in 11 games vs. 12 for Troy. And if any Buckeye homer's start blabbing about how OSU had a tougher schedule, look again. The Big Can't Count Conference has 5 of their 11 teams over .500, the Big 12 has 9 of their 12 with winning records. The Big 10 (sic) has a max of 7 teams with a shot at bowl eligibility, the Big 12 has 9 potentially. So relax and take this for what it is, an interesting tidbit that the 2 QB's are so close statistically. Stats don't always tell the entire story.

But stats do make a compelling case why Hawaii's Colt Brennan should be invited to New York for the Heisman ceremony (invited, not win):

1. Colt Brennan -- 275 -380 - 3753 ------ 72.4 -- 9.9 ------ 43 - 7 ------ 13 --- 188.98


Brady Quinn has moved up, but still is only the 13th-rated passer. He has no business being invited to New York, but is going for one reason and one reason only: He plays for Notre Dame. What a steaming crock of ____.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/sortables?stat=pass&sort=rat&season=2&year=2006&group=80


236 posted on 11/18/2006 9:23:56 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Pence for MinL; Giuliani-Watts, Giuliani-Sanford, Giuliani-Pawlenty, or Giuliani-Perdue in '08)
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To: MikefromOhio

What a game!

I couldn't be more proud of our Buckeyes...


237 posted on 11/18/2006 9:27:05 PM PST by LisaMalia (GO BUCKEYES!!!!!)
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OBTW, Colt Brennan's numbers in post #236 are for just 10 games, they are only in the 2nd quarter right now (with 8-2 Hawaii leading 6-3 San Jose St. 20-7.)


238 posted on 11/18/2006 9:27:20 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Pence for MinL; Giuliani-Watts, Giuliani-Sanford, Giuliani-Pawlenty, or Giuliani-Perdue in '08)
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To: MikefromOhio

You forgot one: How could Ohio State have 3 turnovers and still win??????

Father, Senator, Gov. Tressel sure has that mojo working when he needs it!!!!

5-1-----NOTHING ELSE REALLY MATTERS!!!


239 posted on 11/18/2006 9:32:31 PM PST by cleveland gop (Why must we wait 50 days till Ohio State is crowned national champs???)
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To: MikefromOhio
Ohio State was the better team on the field today. Still, it was a great game and Michigan played well; worthy of all the buildup to be sure. We had our chances but the better team won. Congratulations to the stinkin' Buckeyes.

I don't even want to think about BCS rankings right now. Next weekend will be plenty soon enough for that.

240 posted on 11/18/2006 9:33:01 PM PST by rogue yam
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