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Microsoft Linux!
Forbes ^ | 11.02.06 | Daniel Lions

Posted on 11/06/2006 8:04:56 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Microsoft has announced a partnership with Novell and will help promote Linux.

This is stunning. This is like Red Sox fans announcing they're going to root for the Yankees.

Microsoft has spent ten years bashing the free-of-charge open-source Linux operating system and trying to kill it. Now Microsoft is making nice.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bestofgoldeneagle; bestofiggle; gebait; linux; microsoft; novell; suse; threadjester
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Ge posts on FR:

81 posted on 11/07/2006 7:23:01 PM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: zeugma

LOL

OTOH, it'd be relaxing tonight to have to deal with Iggle given the election returns...8^)


82 posted on 11/07/2006 7:24:35 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Golden Eagle
You also have a problem with lying, as we saw you try to deny my claim that Microsoft is only paying for licenses, and not ongoing patent royalties

Oh damn, I definitely do now because I was right! Microsoft pays Novell $108 million for patents, while Novell pays Microsoft $40 million.

If you have any more lies

Nope, but I'm sure I'll have yet more truths coming your way.

83 posted on 11/07/2006 9:39:44 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Don't try to claim victory now, you already admitted it was a guess that you presented as a fact, one that your own link didn't even support. It just so happened to turn out to be correct, but in no way excuses you incorrectly claiming it as fact originally.


84 posted on 11/08/2006 5:33:48 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Don't try to claim victory now, you already admitted it was a guess that you presented as a fact,

It wasn't a guess. It was based on different accounts of the deal, plus the plain common sense that in a deal like this companies don't just cross-license patents without money flowing. You lose on the facts, as usual. Here's you in #54:

You also have a problem with lying, as we saw you try to deny my claim that Microsoft is only paying for licenses...
I do believe that's you making the claim that Microsoft was only paying for licenses. Yes, I did deny your false claim. I'm happy to correct yet another of your lies.

And if you're ever in Amsterdam, be sure to look up DVD Jon.

85 posted on 11/08/2006 6:18:54 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; Golden Eagle

Burn..


86 posted on 11/08/2006 7:04:54 AM PST by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: antiRepublicrat

BS, after I shot down your link you admitted in post 49 you were quote "wondering" outloud if there might be patent royalties. I clearly indicated from the beginning I didn't know for sure in post 36 when I said "that is not my understanding", unlike you who claimed it was a fact, posted a link that didn't back you up, then finally admitted you were "wondering" instead of actually knowing anything for sure.

No need to further discuss, liberals like you and conservatives like me just aren't going to get along, especially when the liberal comes out spouting things as fact he's actually "wondering" about.


87 posted on 11/08/2006 7:27:11 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
No need to further discuss, liberals like you and conservatives like me just aren't going to get along

I think you get it wrong. Sane people like me and troll ideologues like you aren't going to get along. And you are still incapable of admitting I was right.

I do wonder whether you'll keep spouting your "Linux infringes" mantra when you know that Microsoft is protecting Windows from its infringements -- which was my whole point before you went off on the irrelevant tangent of whether Microsoft paid for that protection.

88 posted on 11/08/2006 7:44:17 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
^^^^^^^^^^After that probably Torvalds, rasied by communists and still not American even though he works here^^^^^^^^^^

I've never heard that one before.(can't argue either way for/against it) Can you back that up, that he was raised by commies?

^^^^^^^^^Then probably Jobs, since Gates has given thousands of dollars to Republican party offices all over the country^^^^^^^^^^^

Personally? Or via "the business", Microsoft?

Despite the monies, he's still a known lib.

89 posted on 11/08/2006 2:50:03 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

If only it were easier to install......................


90 posted on 11/08/2006 2:51:32 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I've never heard that one before...he was raised by commies?

You don't know much about Linus Torvalds then.

Personally?

Yes, you really don't know much about these things, then do you. Maybe you're ready to reconsider that ridiculous tagline.

91 posted on 11/08/2006 3:13:34 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Actually, it really isn't that bad. It's kind of scary at first--especially when one is used to graphical installers...


92 posted on 11/08/2006 6:27:07 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Golden Eagle

^^^^^^^^^^^You don't know much about Linus Torvalds then.^^^^^^^^^^^

Sorry, I don't follow people's personal lives. It seems that those who usually do this end up using it for personal destruction purposes. From what I've seen, you fit that bill.

^^^^^^^^^^Yes, you really don't know much about these things, then do you.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

When did I ever proclaim to know everything? Can you point that out to me?

^^^^^^^^^Maybe you're ready to reconsider that ridiculous tagline.^^^^^^^^^^^

I've stated and proven my claims. Several times.


93 posted on 11/08/2006 7:01:03 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

Yeah, call me used to graphical installers.

However, I have tried the slackware way of installing. I'm not afraid of it per se, call me lazy. :-D

There's no reason for installation to be overly dumbed down such as some have gone, but there's no need for the archaic either.


94 posted on 11/08/2006 7:02:32 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I don't know.

I didn't care for anaconda, liked Suse's YaST, and have finally got used to Slack's installer...


95 posted on 11/08/2006 7:11:12 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

I like both anaconda and YaST, but there's nothing that says slack had to use either. I know there's other distros which have powerful GUI installers that I'm sure wouldn't mind lending to slack.


96 posted on 11/08/2006 9:39:39 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The philosophy with Slackware is to be as simple in design and stable as possible. Here, a text-based interface is relatively simple and it's been extremely stable.

The strive for simplicity and stability is also another reason why Slackware typically only ships with tried-and-true programs--and a 2.4.x kernel by default. (though a recent 2.6 kernel as well as other, more cutting-edge programs are included in /testing).

Also, IMHO, Slack's installer is probably more semi-GUI than a true text-based installer. Is it anaconda or YaST? No. Is it simple, stable, and effective? Yes.


97 posted on 11/09/2006 5:45:57 AM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I don't follow people's personal lives.

Think Clinton was a great president probably too.

98 posted on 11/09/2006 6:10:27 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

That's right. Put words into my posts.

You *do* work for the NY Times, don't you?


99 posted on 11/09/2006 6:38:53 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Also, IMHO, Slack's installer is probably more semi-GUI than a true text-based installer. ,

It looks like it's ncurses, but that's just a guess. I've always found Slack's installer quite easy to use and somewhat reminiscent of FreeBSD's.

100 posted on 11/09/2006 7:01:22 AM PST by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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