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Microsoft Linux!
Forbes ^ | 11.02.06 | Daniel Lions

Posted on 11/06/2006 8:04:56 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Microsoft has announced a partnership with Novell and will help promote Linux.

This is stunning. This is like Red Sox fans announcing they're going to root for the Yankees.

Microsoft has spent ten years bashing the free-of-charge open-source Linux operating system and trying to kill it. Now Microsoft is making nice.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bestofgoldeneagle; bestofiggle; gebait; linux; microsoft; novell; suse; threadjester
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To: antiRepublicrat
True

Obviously, simply proves you like to falsely attack me whenever Torvalds communist upbringing is cited.

What does the server location have to do with anything?

It obviously has to do with the law, and why the Linux distributions don't include the illegal code to begin with. Playing dumb isn't helping you, it just further exposes your leftist intent. Not that it's not already blaring out loud LOL.

61 posted on 11/07/2006 11:30:31 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
After that probably Torvalds, rasied by communists ... Then probably Jobs, since Gates

Actually I can answer that. Based on interviews, Torvalds rebelled against politics in general because of a highly political family atmosphere. He admits he would be considered "left" in American politics, but then he's not interested in politics and tries to stay out of it, so I don't think he even belongs in a list like this. The only way he ever gets into politics is when a government action will affect his pragmatic approach to software.

You forget that he's not a grandstanding egomaniac like the other three. He's just a programmer, famous by accident.

Jobs and Gates, however, have given money to leftist causes (Planned Parenthood and the UN anyone?), so they move up above Torvalds.

62 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:23 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
Obviously, simply proves you like to falsely attack me whenever Torvalds communist upbringing is cited.

Mentioning his upbringing is fine. Mentioning it in order to slander Torvalds isn't. Anyway, I guess President Bush is pro-abortion because that's what his family's stance was as he was growing up (remember, daddy was "pro-choice" until he ran with Reagan).

It obviously has to do with the law, and why the Linux distributions don't include the illegal code to begin with.

Here's the situation: The license with the DVDCA to decrypt CSS through the front door isn't compatible with any open source, so a legal front-door open source player can't exist. However, DeCSS can allow the playing of DVDs through the back door (created with the help of your beloved crypto export controls). This is only possibly against the law in countries with paid-for anti-consumer laws. Did you know that according to your logic there actually exists an illegal prime number?

63 posted on 11/07/2006 12:08:54 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I'll take Torvalds own word for him being leftist, not that he could deny it anyway with all the millions if not billions in software he's given to communist governments who have standardized on his free giveaways.


64 posted on 11/07/2006 12:27:21 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
I'll take Torvalds own word for him being leftist, not that he could deny it anyway with all the millions if not billions in software he's given to communist governments

What proof do you have that his motivation was to help communist governments? If you have none, retract. Now Cisco, there's a company that purposely and directly helped a communist government to oppress its people. But the Chinese paid, so it's okay, right?

65 posted on 11/07/2006 1:01:55 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

LOL how typical. You rush to the defense of free givaways to the chicomm government, then want to slam a large US business for selling them something. Until you ever speak out against the giveaways, your anti-corporate rants are obviously nothing but the expected leftist drivel.


66 posted on 11/07/2006 1:14:26 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I decided to give Slack 11 a whirl...


67 posted on 11/07/2006 1:21:36 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Golden Eagle
LOL how typical. You rush to the defense of free givaways to the chicomm government

Tell me how Linus specifically gave Linux to the Chicom government. Is Sun now a leftist organization because China is using OpenSolaris? It would be worse for Sun under your logic because Sun is specifically pushing OpenSolaris in China, and Linus Torvalds isn't himself pushing Linux there.

Your logic requires that you go on an "anti-corporate rant" against Sun for enabling the communists through free softwre.

Until you ever speak out against the giveaways

I will never speak out against these giveaways in principle because I believe the copyright owner has the right to license software as he sees fit (with the caveat that the license doesn't interfere with a user's rights under the law). I'm not a philosophical software zealot like you and your other half Stallman.

68 posted on 11/07/2006 1:34:33 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

If ANY US company is giving technology away to China, then it needs to be stopped. I really don't want ANY technology getting to China, at any price. But the outright giveaways of technology, for free, which you admit you fully support, is the definition of insanity in light of their horrible human rights record and the ridiculous trade imbalance. Obviously we're never going to agree, since I'm conservative, and you're liberal, simple as that.


69 posted on 11/07/2006 2:22:54 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
I will never speak out against these giveaways

Classic. Bore someone else with your BS on why.

70 posted on 11/07/2006 2:30:48 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Classic. Bore someone else with your BS on why.

I know, creators of works being able to decide the terms of the copying of their works (copyright) is just so boring.

71 posted on 11/07/2006 4:20:00 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
If ANY US company is giving technology away to China, then it needs to be stopped.

I know, we need to charge for it, then it's somehow better.

Obviously we're never going to agree, since I'm conservative, and you're liberal, simple as that.

You're the conservative who doesn't believe in copyright and believes our national security is for sale (just don't give it away!!!).

72 posted on 11/07/2006 4:22:05 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Yes, we know, you will never speak out against these giveaways to Communist China, Iran, North Korea etc. Your whiney excuses don't really matter to conservatives, thanks.
73 posted on 11/07/2006 4:35:47 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
You're the conservative who doesn't believe in copyright and believes our national security is for sale (just don't give it away!!!)

No I believe in "copyright", whereas you believe in "copyleft". And "giveaways" are obviously for liberals, not conservatives. Like yourself.

74 posted on 11/07/2006 4:45:00 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
You're the conservative

Another classic. Yes, we know.

75 posted on 11/07/2006 4:48:15 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: rzeznikj at stout; N3WBI3; MikefromOhio; FLAMING DEATH; Petronski; antiRepublicrat; ...

OK, for those who've missed this thread...

Official OSS Troll Report Card

[X] Stallman is a leftist
[ ] Red Flag is the Communist Chinese OS copied legally from Red Hat
[X] The father of Linus was a communist and lived in Moscow
[ ] The DNC loves Linux
[ ] Communism.org likes Linux
[X] (fill in blank) has sub-par English...
[ ] IBM sold their PC division to the ChiComms.
[X] (insert OSS company) has been kissing up to the Chinese for years
[ ] 80% of ChiComm servers run open-source/Linux
[X] OSS advocates, users, and developers are conniving thieves
[X] Letting the Chinese have our technology is not as bad if we make a profit


Score

6) Put the keyboard down and step away from the computer. Seriesly. For your own sake.


76 posted on 11/07/2006 5:51:20 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

MS' real aim : To make Linux as bug-ridden, crash-prone, and un-secure as Windows.

Microsoft deserves the same fate as Enron, and Bill Gates and Steven Ballmer both deserve the same fates as Lay and Skillings.


77 posted on 11/07/2006 6:07:19 PM PST by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

LindowsOS :)


78 posted on 11/07/2006 6:09:01 PM PST by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: Golden Eagle
No I believe in "copyright", whereas you believe in "copyleft"

"Copyleft" is a term for those who have a philosophical approach to software, like you and Stallman. Even Stallman's "copyleft" relies on good-old copyright to work.

And "giveaways" are obviously for liberals

Liberals believe in taking your stuff and giving it away to others in order to curry favor. Free software is the owner giving it away (well, not quite, true freebies are public domain), which should be perfectly agreeable if you believe in property rights -- a conservative concept that's obviously lost on you.

79 posted on 11/07/2006 6:16:20 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Did you know that according to your logic there actually exists an illegal prime number?

That is a freaking cool page AR 

Later Charles M. Hannum (acting on Carmody's suggestion) found a variant of his short c-code programs, for which the code itself (viewed as a number) is prime.  This can be done by renaming variables, without lengthening the program.  Since the ASCII characters in the code all fit in the first 128 ASCII characters, he then found another variant which is smaller, using 7-bits per character.  There is clearly no end to what could be done! ...

The bottom line: If distributing code is illegal, and these numbers contain (or are) the code, doesn't that make these number illegal?  What if the number itself was executable code, would that make it an executable prime?

Excellent stuff. I've always loved the concept of primes and their usefulness in the modern world is exceptionally cool IMO. Thanks for the great link that I'm going to have to browse around. 

80 posted on 11/07/2006 7:17:41 PM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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