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JERICHO - Official Thread
CBS ^ | Wednesday, September 20, 2006 | Momaw Nadon

Posted on 09/20/2006 4:51:30 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon


Things are quiet and peaceful in small-town Jericho, Kansas, but when a baffling explosion occurs in the distance, Jericho's residents are plunged into social, psychological and physical chaos. No one knows what to think, and fear of the unknown takes over the town, especially because its isolation cuts it off from outside help. When nearly everything they know seems gone, will the residents of JERICHO band together to face their unfamiliar and mysterious new world?


TOPICS: TV/Movies; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: blitz; china; explosion; fallout; jericho; jrnyquist; kansas; nuclear; nukes; radiation; reddawn; rocketday; russia; shelter; sovietunion; survival; teotwawki; turkey; war; ww3
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To: BearArms

I suppose they could set in L.A or N.Y but it would be a real short show... :^)


101 posted on 09/30/2006 10:07:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: twin1

thought you'd like to know a thread has been started


102 posted on 10/01/2006 2:24:58 PM PDT by twin2
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To: dfwgator

Well, In "The Day After" being a Soviet nuclear exchange scenario, Kansas was an easy choice since Kansas is heavily dotted with ICBM sites and military bases. In "Jericho" I think it was happen stance, and it is a fictional town. I think it's mainly because when someone thinks of Kansas they think of small middle America mostly conservative traditional folks. I think that's why it was done there and not a state with huge Metropolis in it, though like they've pointed out, Denver is a couple hours or so away. From the size of the mushroom cloud in the first episode, Denver is supposed to be what, about 100 to 150 miles from "Jericho"? Much closer then that and they'd of felt the shockwave and been effected directly by the radiation from the blast.


103 posted on 10/02/2006 10:26:14 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Yeah I considered that too. But I think there is not that much difference between the Chinese Communists and the Soviets, in that while extreme and control freaks, they are also big believers in M.A.D., and the Chinese have AT BEST, about 5% the nuclear arsenal the U.S. military currently sports, not counting the Submarine and long range bomber arsenals. The Chinese, 1.3+ Billion people or not, don't have any illusions that precipitating a massive nuclear exchange with the United States would effectively end China as they know it, and drop them back to the 12th Century. We'd target not just all their military bases and government centers, which would also kill hundreds of millions of their civilians, but would also completely and utterly destroy their military, which they don't have the resources to replace in less then a few years. The Chinese just flat aren't equipped to put up as much of a fight after a nuclear exchange as the pre 90s Soviet Union was capable of doing. That's reality.

Now for the show, who knows. If the show is based on the current reality of the real world we're live in, and the only unreal aspects of the show are the town and people in it, then it will end up being Islamo-fascist terrorists and not the Chinese or Iranians or North Koreans or anyone else. Especially not the latter since they have neither the military or infrastructure to launch a massive 8+ city ICBM attack, though they could use portable nukes with ground agents just like the Islamo-fascist could. I'm just hoping the show sticks to as close to an "what-if" premise as possible, and doesn't go off into some kind of really radical extremist tangent.

104 posted on 10/02/2006 10:33:35 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Publius
That's a VERY GOOD point. Rail lines and ports would sure make it easier for terrorists to move portable nuclear deviced into position. It's impossible to check every single rail car and every single ship coming into every port in the country. The 9-11 Commission and Democrats always throw that at the GOP but never seem to mention the part about the TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars it would cost and the impossible logistics it would take to do it. Funny how the Democrats always say what they think should be done, but never identify HOW to do it. So convenient. :) I think anti-gravity tech should be developed to make it cheaper, easier and quicker to move freight and make the internal combustion engine obsolete, but that doesn't mean it can be done or that I know how to do it or pay for it. That's the Democrats today.

But I digress. The border, and ports are clearly the way that this kind of attack could be done in reality. The Soviets have admitted that a dozen or more portable briefcase nukes are "missing" and unaccounted for. They weigh near or more 100 pounds, so they're more like suitcases not briefcases, but it wouldn't be hard to getthose into different vehicles, with clean cut looking terrorists driving them in teams, one device per vehicle, out in the boonies somewhere, each team with a predetermined location to go to in each target city, and a predetermined time to get there, and a predetermined time to set the devices off, compensating for time zones. And ports would make this even easier, using small private cabin type cruisers, which no one really checks if they don't look suspicious, and it wouldn't be hard for people to get such boats and their legal papers. This is very doable and very real and quite scary. I don't know what scares me more; the reality that Islamo-Fascists COULD do this, and it is not logistically impossible if done right, which wouldn't take a genius level of intelligence to pull off, or if it scares me more that there is an apparent genetic level of retardation among some Americans who think such an attack isn't possible, or don't really worry about it. As 9-11 proved to be, an Islamo-fascist terrorist nuclear strike on America is a matter of WHEN, not IF. That's my opinion, and I hope I'm wrong but I don't believe I am. It only takes ONE nuke detonated in a large U.S. city, a port probably, to kill millions of Americans, and change the United States for many decades at best, and cause the economy to drop to its knees. People don't seem to understand the repercussions of this if it happened. It would make 9-11 look like a fart in a tornado.

105 posted on 10/02/2006 10:43:09 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Publius6961
Have you even read my posts? You must not have to assume that I take this show as "reality". Obviously it's fiction, but the premise is not beyond the realm of possibility and I personaly know those in the military who fear this scenario above ALL others. So are they fools too, or just me? The whole condescending tone of your post is absurd.

As I said earlier, the Soviets have admitted that a dozen or more portable briefcase nukes are "missing" and unaccounted for. They weigh near or more 100 pounds, so they're more like suitcases not briefcases, but it wouldn't be hard to get those into different vehicles, with clean cut looking terrorists driving them in teams, one device per vehicle, out in the boonies somewhere, each team with a predetermined location to go to in each target city, and a predetermined time to get there, and a predetermined time to set the devices off, compensating for time zones. And ports would make this even easier, using small private cabin type cruisers, which no one really checks if they don't look suspicious, and it wouldn't be hard for people to get such boats and their legal papers. This is very doable and very real and quite scary. Your assumption that the logistics would be too hard to pull off is based on seriously faulty logic. There would be ni airport security to get around. No passengers to worry about. No airspeed differential to try and coordinate between planes out of contact. Several teams in several vehicals, with satellite phones, communicating in seemingly harmless code, checking time and distance, and that's all it takes. An attack of the kind in the show "Jericho" is much more likely then you seem to realize.

I don't know what scares me more; the reality that Islamo-Fascists COULD do this, which I've feared for years before this show was a twinkle in anyone's eyes, and it is not logistically impossible if done right, which wouldn't take a genius level of intelligence to pull off, or if it scares me more that there is an apparent genetic level of retardation among some Americans who think such an attack isn't possible, or don't really worry about it. As 9-11 proved to be, an Islamo-fascist terrorist nuclear strike on America is a matter of WHEN, not IF. That's my opinion, and I hope I'm wrong but I don't believe I am. It only takes ONE nuke detonated in a large U.S. city, a port probably, to kill millions of Americans, and change the United States for many decades at best, and cause the economy to drop to its knees. People don't seem to understand the repercussions of this if it happened. It would make 9-11 look like a fart in a tornado, and that is a reality that people need to consider, and doing so, doesn't indicate a disconnect from reality or behavior that considers this show as somehow less then a fictional show that is "entertainment". There is a real side of this show that shouldn't be so smugly dismissed like you did. There is a little reality in ALL fiction.

And your comment about "Independence Day" is so silly. There are no aliens with monstrous multi-mile wide space ships. But there are Islamo-fascist terrorists in the world, and there are portable nuclear devices in the world that the terrorists would use against our cities if they could get them in the country and coordinate the attack, and such an attack wouldn't be as hard to set up as you think. You're kidding yourselves if you think that the logistics for such a multi-pronged attack is beyond the Islamo-fascist terrorists. The hardest part of those logistics would be getting the devices in the country, and if shipped in seperately, the authorities finding one, wouldn't garner the location of the others before the teams would disperse. You seriously need to reconsider your post.

As for saying that considering recalling military forces from overseas to protect the country is so funny, (God your posts are so arrogatn and insulting), if there was a massive nuclear attack on several U.S. cities, threatening to crumble the infrastructure and economy and government, recalling the military to protect the country would be something that would be considered. What good is the miltiary if there is no longer a cohesive nation that it serves? I said it was a possibility, not a certainty. Are you allergic to hypotheticals or something? Hopefully I won't have to reply to anymore of your posts. Because you don't seem to be here to discuss this respectfully. You seem to just want to insult me and be condescending, as though somehow you have more of a right to post then anyone else here. And good luck accusing me of being some DU moonbat. There are hundreds of FReepers that would laugh in your face if you said that to them. :)

106 posted on 10/02/2006 10:57:58 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Publius6961

Oh, and just FYI, just because you disagree with those speculating here, doesn't mean you can assume to know the state of their education. I have a dual BS in History and Poly Sci, and being from a four generation military family, I know more about the military then many IN the military. I'm quite familiar with the Army's rail-type nuclear artillary piece they planned to use against the Soviets if they started a war, in order to support the NATO ground forces. Duh. That's not news. It's 40+ years old. The fact that you think that you're so much smarter then those here just minding their business discussing a show, because you've watched some documentaries on the military is really laughable. You chose to come in here, but don't confuse that choice with some non-existant right to insult those here posting things you don't agree with. Be polite and respectful, or don't post.


107 posted on 10/02/2006 11:02:13 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Publius6961

Oh, and your tagline is extremely offensive too. You blindly accuse those here of sounding like DU Moonbats, and yet you have a tagline that accuses Israelis of being the only ones killing people, saying that Israelis are killed by just rockets, so it sounds to me that based on your tagline that your post sounds like something an anti-Israeli DU Moonbat would say. Did those Hezbollah rockets fire themselves??? You really oew an apology to those here for that tagline


108 posted on 10/02/2006 11:04:59 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: BearArms

I agree totally. I'm not surprised the ratings improved in week two. What were the numbers for the two weeks? I think it's really interresting and realistic given the scenario. There were few things that I found to be unrealistic so far, and some they are cosmetic and most will likely be addressed in later episodes, since the bit thing with this show is that we the viewer are just like the people in the show. We know SQUAT other then a nuclear attack has taken place, and after the second show, we know what only the St. Louis ex-cop knows, that it was an 8+ city strike, a massive nuclear strike. Either Islamo-fascist Terrorist strike or Chinese nuclear exchange. If it's anyone but the Islamo-fascist terrorists that did the attack in the show, I think the show loses credibility because based on the current real world we live in, nothing else is really believable. Though the show is fictional. But I'd like it to stock to the current real world situation as much as possible.


109 posted on 10/02/2006 11:15:01 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Yes you're right, I slipped and let loose "the plan". I'll have to get a Moderator to edit that post of mind. That's almost as bad as letting slip that Bush is letting ALL Americans pay the super-secret registered Republican 25% discount price at the pumps now. ;)


110 posted on 10/02/2006 11:17:00 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: greyfoxx39

"Smith" was good too, you're right. It's peculiar, my wife and I both found it odd almost pulling for them, wondering if they'd be able to get away, but at the same time, you want them to get busted, because they're criminals. It's an odd sensation. :) I think that's what they're shooting for.


111 posted on 10/02/2006 11:19:58 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Momaw Nadon

I thought Jericho in this show was in Co....They keep talking about being close to Denver???? don't they?

Becky


112 posted on 10/02/2006 11:20:41 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: BenLurkin

Indeed. It would be a bit anti-climactic seeing all the main characters get killed in the premier episode. Surely LA, NYC, and/or Houston are among the other three cities that we didn't see, just saw the cop pull pins to put on the map. That part still gives me chills. God I hope no one ever has to do that. One pin or a dozen. Never ever ever. God willing this show will remain fiction and only fiction FOREVER!


113 posted on 10/02/2006 11:26:04 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

It's supposedly in Kansas right on the border close to Denver, also close to the border between Colorado and Kansas. Denver is supposed to be about 100 to 150 miles from Jericho I believe. Maybe closer but couldn't be much closer. I remember the second episode they said that it takes a couple hours for weather to make its way from Denver to "Jericho" but that's only about 40-50 miles. I think it would be a bit further from that, unless the nuclear weapon used on Denver was a minimal yeild tactical weapon. If it was a larger yeild weapon or a strategic ICBM, the shockwave would effect the town if it was less then 50 miles from the center of the detonation.


114 posted on 10/02/2006 11:31:58 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Here's a good piece on Jericho's ratings versus the competition.

I think it's interesting to point out that the critics expected Jericho to sink like a lead baloon.

115 posted on 10/02/2006 5:03:15 PM PDT by BearArms
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To: Momaw Nadon

Here's what I think is going to happen. I believe the cop from St. Louis is a plant from some illuminati type group. This group also happens to be the ones responsible for the nuclear detenations. There is no way network TV is going to show any country where people who may buy the DVD's as the responsible pary. Sa with Islamo-Fascists. The main character probably works for the US govt. as a counter role to the st. louis cop. I figure the US govt. knew the secret groups plan and sent out reps to safe havens all over the country in case the plan was succesful. I'm betting that at this time main character doesn't know about the secret group's representative and vice-versa.


116 posted on 10/03/2006 11:00:21 AM PDT by ChiefChris
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To: Publius
"Back in the Eisenhower years, the Pentagon did a study as to how long it would take for the country to recover after a general nuclear exchange with the Soviets. The study showed that it would take 800 years before the standard of living progressed as far as Europe had been in the medieval period, specifically the 13th Century."

Bring out your dead!

[clang]

Bring out your dead!

117 posted on 10/04/2006 6:46:54 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave; NonValueAdded; BallyBill; Publius; annelizly; Swordmaker; InvisibleChurch; ...


Episode 3 Ping!

Wednesday, October 4, 2006

8:00 P.M. EDT

Freepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from the JERICHO Ping List.

118 posted on 10/04/2006 8:18:43 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Momaw Nadon

Thanks for the reminder; please keep me on the list for now.


119 posted on 10/04/2006 8:23:13 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Momaw Nadon

THANKS

Haven't seen any episodes. What channel is it on?

Given the real thing is headed our way in our era . . . not sure I want too much of a preview. Sigh.

On the other hand . . .


120 posted on 10/04/2006 8:50:34 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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