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Employee kept notes of interaction with accuser (Nifong Caught Lying Again)
Raleigh News & Observer ^ | September 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe

Posted on 09/18/2006 5:19:53 PM PDT by abb

DURHAM - One of three people who saw the accuser in the Duke lacrosse rape case at the crisis center where she first reported being sexually assaulted kept notes of her observations, defense lawyers said in a motion filed in court today.

In the early hours of March 14, the accuser was taken to Durham Access Center because she reportedly met the criteria for involuntary commitment, defense lawyer Brad Bannon wrote in the motion filed in Durham County Court today.

While there for 40 minutes, the accuser interacted with three women on the center's staff, the motion says.

Gerri Lomuriel Wilkes, who was working at the center the morning the accuser came in, took hand-written notes of her observations, according to the motion.

Kirk Osborn, the lawyer representing Reade Seligmann, one of three lacrosse players accused in the case, found out about the notes while interviewing Wilkes, the motion says.

Defense lawyers are asking that the notes be turned over to them.

District Attorney Mike Nifong has told defense lawyers during discovery hearings that no notes were made at the center, that only a log existed from there.

In previous documents handed over to defense lawyers, there is no evidence that police tried to contact Wilkes about that morning.

Also, defense lawyers are asking the state for a bill of particulars in which they hope to get a more precise timeline of the alleged offenses and find out which bathroom at 610 N. Buchanan the gang-rape allegedly occurred.

They also are asking the state to specify which "sexual act" each defendant is accused of committing. Staff writer Anne Blythe can be reached at 932-8741 or ablythe@newsobserver.com.


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KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durham; durhamdirtbag; hoax; lacrosse; lax; nifong
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To: abb
An indictment charging sexual assault has to be specific--in most places, at least. A sexual assault can consist of a number of different acts, and the Defendant is entitled to know what he is charged with. It will be interesting to see how Nifong responds to the motion for specific allegations. Since the AV cannot keep her story straight, the more the charges are specifically stated, the more contradiction there will be.
41 posted on 09/19/2006 9:37:16 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: NDLax84

I had to jump back and defend myself because imho tried to stab me in the back after I left.

Maybe I just took the bait again, though.


42 posted on 09/19/2006 10:11:50 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: darbymcgill

There probably is more to it. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure you will - :-)), but if a L.E. agent or member of the D.A.'s office has been shown to be corrupt in the management of a case (unlawful searches, prosecutorial misconduct, etc.), doesn't that automatically open up all cases the individual who has been found so guilty was connected with for judicial review? I've heard that is the case and that it is a major can of worms to open for the L.E. and Judiciary. No body wants ANYBODY on their L.E. team to be found with poopoo on their shoes, cause once you step in it, you can never get it off.


43 posted on 09/19/2006 10:30:00 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: San Jacinto

The contradiction is "NO DNA" of the boys consistent with 3 types of sex.


44 posted on 09/19/2006 10:44:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: CondorFlight

I agree. I think some of the other boards particularly CourtTV were ruined on purpose because certain people did not like how the evidence was coming down.


45 posted on 09/19/2006 11:02:11 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
doesn't that automatically open up all cases the individual who has been found so guilty was connected with for judicial review?

Yes, you are absolutely correct... read about Joyce Gilchrist, it will make you want to scream.....

46 posted on 09/19/2006 11:05:47 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: GAgal
Security guard making notes of her patient observations? Sounds fishy to me.

Could be fishy or it could be policy given the number of time a place like Durham access might get sued for involuntary commitments. Time will tell, but if it were too suspicious, I think the defense would have left it alone. They have not stepped in it yet and they have enough lawyers to have checks and balances.
47 posted on 09/19/2006 11:07:01 AM PDT by JLS
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To: rawhide

The defense is demanding the notes from Nifong because they know he is lying and hiding exculpatory evidence. This is just one more bit of pressure on him to come clean.


48 posted on 09/19/2006 11:10:59 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
It also would makes you say "hmmmmmm" when even before the official DNA results came back from the SBI that Nifong was shopping for a more "qualified" private test facility.

I say, hmmmmmm, how many innocents are in prison now because of the "known" inabilities of the SBI labs? I'll bet there's a lawyer of two in N.C. re-looking at some DNA involved case files.

49 posted on 09/19/2006 11:12:26 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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http://www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2006/09/19/News/Dpd-Duke.Acknowledge.Belmont.Snafu-2284673.shtml?norewrite200609191525&sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com
DPD, Duke acknowledge Belmont snafu
Both say watchman did not follow protocol


50 posted on 09/19/2006 12:26:47 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: darbymcgill

Oh, my. I went to the website. Oh, my. I will always be grateful for the Lord's protection for my son. I know what they did to us/him, but he's still alive and free. I don't think I could live if I knew my son had been put to death by humbugs like Gilchrist and Keating. What pain.


51 posted on 09/19/2006 2:43:17 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: ltc8k6
I see the troll at TL identified the player as Matt Zash after the Championship game. A couple of thoughts come to my mind. It isn't Dave Evans. It isn't much facial hair. And it is after the championship game. I guess some people have never seen any playoff games. It isn't hard to believe any facial hair rule would be relaxed during the playoffs.
52 posted on 09/19/2006 4:20:54 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: ltc8k6



I just deleted myself from the Talkleft forums. Too much crap from PB and IMHO for me to remain polite anymore. Rather than say what I really think, I just left, because I'd be banned anyway.

A couple morons ruining a whole board....







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53 posted on 09/19/2006 4:27:54 PM PDT by inmyhumbleopinion_imho
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54 posted on 09/19/2006 4:32:07 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pepperhead

"Will you walk into my parlour? said the spider to the fly."


55 posted on 09/19/2006 4:37:14 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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56 posted on 09/19/2006 5:39:55 PM PDT by inmyhumbleopinion_imho
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To: abb

This makes me very anxious for my daughter. It's open season on Duke students in Durham these days.


57 posted on 09/19/2006 7:15:35 PM PDT by cantankerousgal (Saved at last!)
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To: cantankerousgal

I can only imagine how anxious parents of Duke students are these days. Durham has a policy of targeting Duke students for harassment, and Brodhead has a policy of turning his back on students when the going gets tough. Ignore Durham -- your student is out of there when she gets her degree, and there really is no reason to leave campus on a daily basis. Duke itself is another story. For 43 large a year, one could reasonably expect the university to care about what happens to its students. Brodhead has made clear that students' well being is not his concern. Like a good modern academic, his interest is in research and prestige, not student development. In his mind, students get in the way of a university's mission.

What have you done today to get rid of Brodhead?


58 posted on 09/19/2006 7:22:35 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: CondorFlight; ltc8k6; All

"A couple morons ruining a whole board...."

Maybe that's their deliberate intention?

Same thing happened at Court TV--again, maybe deliberate.

(So the way to defeat that is to NEVER answer the trolls.)
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re: TalkLeft, etc.

It is tactial and strategic. I agree with CondorFlight - to ignore them is the only way to handle it. Otherwise, unemployed Haters continually hijack threads and change the subject. The subject is NOT whether it is theoretically possible - no one else is held to that standard, and it's obviously not the legal standard.

To be honest, most of these disruptors hate White people or
they practice Leftism as a religion. They do not care if the players committed the crime or not - they choose sides based on race or "religion."

It makes sense, really. Why argue an issue (with substance and logic) when you don't care whether the crime occurred or not. Only that certain people are convicted, and a certain type of people, which they see as a cause, are victorious.

You can see the fruits of institution political correctness in this country. The first time I realized that many, including the media, had totally abandoned right and wrong was when a white controller (finance type) in Washington D.C. described a City retirement or investment fund as Niggardly. The board was outraged. The man was fired. They demanded an apology.

Niggardly is a financial term and it means thrifty or miserly. The term's origin is totally separate from the N-word, in fact, it originally, in the 1500's, described a Scandinavian person. The two words are not connected in any way, shape, or form. But, it didn't stop the D.C. Board from taking to the airwaves and voicing their outrage and demonstrating the mentality of being a 'victim at all costs'.

While the well-paid board members should've been embarrassed by their ignorance, and subsequent harsh treatment of the white controller, they were self-righteous, bold, and unapologetic. The Media, of course, acted like the man deserved to be punished for his bad judgement. What bad judgement, I don't know. Apparently, the controller should've assumed the blacks on the board were ignorant, hyper-sensitive, and privileged.

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59 posted on 09/19/2006 7:44:11 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Sacajaweau

Even if she's a security guard only she might have heard what the doctors and nurses said and what the accuser said. Someone may have wanted a security guard around because the accuser might have been going haywire once she realized where she was and that she was about to be involuntarily committed. She went nuts earlier in the evening in the bathroom with Kim. In terms of her behavior she seems to be either haywire or catatonic.


60 posted on 09/19/2006 8:45:59 PM PDT by SarahUSC
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