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Zotted Trolls Love Socialism is the best form of government (and here why)

Posted on 08/28/2006 1:33:08 PM PDT by hand out love all

Socialism is best because under socialism. No one has to worry about being poor or starving to death. No one is poor, unemployed, discriminated, everyone is equal reguardless or race or creed. Today such ideas are condemned as evil. Any attempt to protest against slavery and genocide and human rights violations are met with the cries of COMMUNISM! By the religious right and then they conjure up stories about Stalin, Gulags, tortue, police state etc. So therefore we must stick with the current system of sweat shop slavery, poverty and racism while rich people who already have all they will ever need in life continue to thrive off our blood sweat and tears.

CAPITALISM KILLS:

Amazing how they criticize socialism and incorrectly lump Socialism with communism especially when capitalism has murdered more people than any other ideology. One forgets how capitalism starves the poor, about how beggars are thrown in jail, how native indiginous populations are exterminated so the rich can make an extral million bucks! They dont mention about how they control and oppress the people and how the masses are enslaved 48 hours a day in big factories so the rich can make money. They dont talk about women being abused and mistreated and discriminated. The Ku Klux Klan were Capitalists, the Nazis were capitalists, Augusto Pinochet was a capitalist, Ronald Reagan, Pol Pot, Queen Victoria, Columbus, George Bush, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Pat Buchanan, the pope, Osama Bin Laden and the terrorists they are all capitalists. Why dont we scream about the ills of their "system" of whatever!

COMMUNISM VS SOCIALISM

There is a big difference between socialism and communism. Communism is where the state controls everything. This is very similar to capitalism. The state controls the lives and destinies of everyone. Under socialism, everyone controls everything and everything belongs to everyone. We dont need to worry about stealing or going hungry or any of that stuff.

You might say, but hey! Who is going to have to work and whats the incentive for work?

Well of course that is somthing else but not to worry! Everyone will be working rich and poor. The workers however will decide everything and we can let the filthy stinkin rich worry wome other time. Everyone will have a job and be paid lots of money. I propose a minimum wage of $20.00 an hour for all workers. A maximum hour work week of 30 hours in a 8 day work week. Every company must hire unemployed workers reguardless of age sex race creed or education and we should also have an education system run by the people who will decide as a whole what to learn and if all else fails, we should can the rich and redistribute their weatlh. dont worry. They have plenty more where that comes from ;) YES! SOCIALISM! IT IS THE BESTEST GOVERNMENT EVER! I CANT WAIT! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!


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To: Irish_Thatcherite
"I still don't see how spindles relate to stair trenchers....."

I was speaking of the spindles of the routers. Open spindles would simply let the chips fall where they may.

I was not speaking of the spindles of the stair rails.

I have only built two stairs, both open riser.

1,941 posted on 09/09/2006 7:09:19 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
"... do you know anything about biodiesel fuel??"

I know that a local man was selling some home-grown bio-diesel for under two bucks and got in trouble with the government.

He wasn't collecting fuel tax for them.

What did you want to know?

1,942 posted on 09/09/2006 7:13:28 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
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To: NicknamedBob

I have been told that it is clean and inexpensive to produce in Malaysia(palm oil blend).

A Malaysian group wants me to raise 100mil in the capital markets for this. Petronas Oil of Malaysia is also a big player in this, and I know nothing about it.


1,943 posted on 09/09/2006 7:43:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

As a market item, it sounds perfectly suitable for trade and investment. However, my instinct tells me the best investments would be made internally within the United States.

As an example, Brazil produces Ethanol less expensively than we can, but they are not allowed to supplement our demand for it.

I would proceed most cautiously, as if the proposal were for snake oil.

A lot of money is currently going into small, local-scale refineries for ethanol, but I am more intrigued with the possible two-stage bacteriological production of a higher chain alcohol called butanol.

It is said to be a direct replacement for gasoline in standard production cars, and does not have ethanol's problems regarding shipping it by pipeline.

Butanol is currently produced from crude oil feedstocks, but the ability to produce it in small scale refineries directly at the source of biomaterial production would make it very price competitive again.


1,944 posted on 09/09/2006 8:30:50 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
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To: NicknamedBob

Thanks, Bob. Always my favorite brain at FR!


1,945 posted on 09/09/2006 9:49:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: Monkey Face; JRios1968; NonLinear; sully777; FriendDownUnder; SquirrelKing; IYellAtMyTV; ...
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1,946 posted on 09/09/2006 10:40:46 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

I'm awake!

Don't ask me why, I don't know.


1,947 posted on 09/09/2006 10:43:47 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle
I'm awake!

Me too. Just finished watching "Hellboy," at the recommendation of some (respected) Anglican blogger. Camp, interesting ending.

But am way too tired. Manaña, y'all.

1,948 posted on 09/09/2006 10:49:26 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

G'night.


1,949 posted on 09/09/2006 10:52:24 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Monkey Face; JRios1968; NonLinear; sully777; FriendDownUnder; SquirrelKing; IYellAtMyTV; ...

Mañana, y'all. (Spelling fixed.)


1,950 posted on 09/10/2006 7:29:10 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

I guess you're not really awake after all, eh?


1,951 posted on 09/10/2006 7:43:17 AM PDT by Monkey Face (The REAL sister of the REAL redhead. REALLY!)
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To: Monkey Face

Not really... I shouldn't stay up so late. Maybe I'll head back for another hour..


1,952 posted on 09/10/2006 7:48:00 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar
HI!

free dixie,sw

1,953 posted on 09/10/2006 7:48:33 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: sionnsar

Or not.


1,954 posted on 09/10/2006 7:52:22 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

Heading back has crossed my mind, as well. But I was having some wierd dreams (common with CFIDS) so I got up and decided to see who else is up this fine Sunday.

It's supposed to be 95 today with a low of 73. A little cool for my tastes, but that's OK. I just have to get to storage and drag out my winter clothes...


1,955 posted on 09/10/2006 7:52:24 AM PDT by Monkey Face (The REAL sister of the REAL redhead. REALLY!)
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To: stand watie

Hi, SW! How are things?


1,956 posted on 09/10/2006 7:52:44 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: stand watie

Morning!


1,957 posted on 09/10/2006 7:52:49 AM PDT by Monkey Face (The REAL sister of the REAL redhead. REALLY!)
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To: Monkey Face

48 outside right now. The windows aren't as wide open as they have been.


1,958 posted on 09/10/2006 7:53:42 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

LOL!

When I head for the PO tomorrow, I think I'll stop at storage and get my down comforter and some winter clothes. By this time next month, I'll be "cold." By December, we should have some pretty cold weather.

The high desert gets ugly cold in the winter.


1,959 posted on 09/10/2006 7:58:38 AM PDT by Monkey Face (The REAL sister of the REAL redhead. REALLY!)
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To: Monkey Face
I bet it does. The cool is a nice break from the heat we've been having, but some rain would be nicer. It's not too early for the leaves to be turning and falling, but this year it seems more due to stress of too little water.

Not long until spider activity goes into high gear.

1,960 posted on 09/10/2006 8:02:18 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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