Posted on 08/28/2006 9:01:50 AM PDT by Rte66
This is a reference thread with links to previous FR threads discussing the arrest of a suspect, John Mark Karr, in the decade-old cold case concerning the murder of JonBenet Ramsey, plus case resources for continued commentary on investigation of the crime.
What we do know is that he's a nut who developed a fascination for the Polly Klass and JonBenet cases, going so far as to move to where the Klass murder happened. He seems to have some weird fantasy thing going about being involved in those crimes, but there's no evidence he was.
As with most high-profile crimes, lots of crazies have "confessed" to this crime, but the DA ain't splainin' why they are taking this one seriously. But then, it's Boulder.
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Could any husbands out there know the answer to that as well? :-)
Clearly JMK was doing *something* to this poor girl. This could come out in his trial, that is, examinations of evidence to see what kinds of wounds these may have been.
"As with most high-profile crimes, lots of crazies have "confessed" to this crime,"
I did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night but I agree with you. The DA may be able to trade her sheepskin for a cup of coffee after this is over.
The marks on her are not burns, they are small abrasions.
When the photos are magnified, her abrasions are the opposite of the stun gun marks Smit demo'ed on a pig's skin - one has a dark center and lighter tissue radiating outward, the other has a light center and darker tissue radiating outward.
If you were wise, you would hold your insults until...but that's too big an if, I'm afraid.
Sure she'll explain...just not on your unreal timetable.
I'm inclined to agree with you. So far, it looks really thin. I feel like the hold-out juror in the movie "12 angry men". There are posters here who believe that a perp, call him X, is guilty of this crime. All they know about X is that his last name is not Ramsey. I'm saying, whoa!, we don't *know* that for sure. But they seem to be certain of it. They're musing that X might be JMK. The funny thing about it is, they could be right I'm just not ready to make that leap yet. So, yes, I agree with you but I don't think JMK, or any other hypothetical intruder, is excluded either.
Interesting. So, this argues against electric shock? Just checking to make sure I'm following you...
I am a long time farmer and familar with cattle prods. Have never seen one leave a mark on cattle or seen one applied to a person.
This guy considered himself a musician/teacher whatever. My opinion is that he would not associate with hayseeds/bumkins that would own a cattle prod.
My uneducated guess would be some kind of condom (French Tickler?) could cause injuries as you describe.
The point of Smit thinking a stun gun was used was because there were two scratches on her leg that were evenly spaced apart like stun gun electrodes are - but these were scratches and could've been from something else that was sharp.
There are two more on the side of her face that don't look like those - one is very much larger and looks like a cigarette burn - but it is also an abrasion.
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Not wise and that was not an insult to the DA. I was thinking of the history of this case.
If not an insult to the DA, before she has a chance to present anything, I would hate to see what an insult to her would sound like.
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It's interesting to look at the connections. All this comes about because of Michael Tracey, a leftie journalism prof at CU. He has been pro-Ramsey and pro-intruder from the beginning. He's produced documentaries (some ridicule as "crockumentaries") trying to finger other suspects, which are riddled with incorrect facts and those he fingered have been shown to be innocent.
Karr happened to run into a friend of Tracey when he was "researching" the JonBenet case. Tracey struck up an e-mail correspondence with Karr that went on for years. The genesis of the DA's looking at Karr for this crime was those e-mails.
Here's the catch. Tracey had been corresponding with Karr for about two years when he produced another documentary accusing someone else of this crime. Only after his latest theory went paws up did he start grooming Karr for the perp role.
Maybe the DA has an ace in the hole, like a DNA match we don't know about. But I'd be very surprised.
YW - it does, doesn't it?
I meant to put in the top post that he is to appear today at 4:30 PM (MDT) in Boulder dist. court. It is the advisement and he may or may not be formally charged at that time. If he's not, he'll just be in and out.
One local commentator is guessing it might be DNA from a snail mail envelope sent by Karr to Tracey. But that's speculation.
If I had to put a DelFrisco's steak dinner and $200 bottle of wine on this, I'd have to say this isn't the guy.
You've pointed out several of my concerns about the JMK case and why I suspect the *possibility* that the DA has been had. There are just too many things about this guy that suggest fraud, for lack of a better word. OTOH, he could be our huckleberry but I'd like to see what else the DA has on him.
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