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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Suspect Karr - Case Thread 2
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| 8/28/06
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Posted on 08/28/2006 9:01:50 AM PDT by Rte66
This is a reference thread with links to previous FR threads discussing the arrest of a suspect, John Mark Karr, in the decade-old cold case concerning the murder of JonBenet Ramsey, plus case resources for continued commentary on investigation of the crime.
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To: hoosiermama
The reference I posted was due to Karr's first wife waking up with blood blisters on her private parts. Rte66 did not know what Karr's first wife meant by "blood blisters", so I thought I would help her out trying to explain it in general terms.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:56:12 AM PDT
by
stlnative
(WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
To: stlnative
But the pictures of the red/brown marks on JB IMO could also be blood blisters.
To: hoosiermama
I'm not buying that it would wipe out enough memory far enough back. She wouldn't remember him fooling with his apparatus? Risky, very risky.
Occam's Razor and all that. Slipping someone drugs in food or drink is simple and easy. They just remember going to sleep.
And we already have the presence of the unexplained pineapple in which an unknown and untested for drug could have been delivered.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:02:12 PM PDT
by
Valpal1
(Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
To: sandbar
No, they said they didn't keep them, to one reporter, but when they made the initial statement in that interview on GMA, they said they "just discovered that" or something that would lead you to believe it was something they had just found.
Like another poster said, I hope they're not confusing it with SWAK!
[If I disappear after this, it's because I just heard a big crack of thunder and may have to turn off the puter. Drat, just when I was making some time to be here. Gotta go check radar and see if it's big.]
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:07:31 PM PDT
by
Rte66
To: hoosiermama; Rte66
yes one of the marks on her neck... the big on her neck looks to be caused from a second rope winding catching and pinching her neck after the the slipknot was put on her neck.
I did the potato test... but I chose not to post it here on the forum. To kill Jonbenet with a slipknot garrotte he would have had to wrap the cord one more time around her neck to strangle her to death. (there is no indication that he hung her up in the autopsy) To understand this you would have to do the slipknot rope test yourself on something. Possibly Rte66 can explain it better than I can if she feels up to it.
As far as the little round spots... I am not sure what caused them yet but yes a cattle prod could have been used, but I am sure they considered it.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:08:50 PM PDT
by
stlnative
(WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
To: sandbar
One of the Ramseys did it and the other is readily complicit. Like.....
Hey, Patsy....Grab a pen and a pad, will ya. I'll let you write the note.
Sometimes you have to exaggerate the scene to see its' stupidity.
Kill my kid and it would make a LOT more sense that I'd go after you than help you.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:09:34 PM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(God Bless Our Troops!!)
To: stlnative
Unless it's in her court report when she got the marriage annulled or whatever, I'm going to reserve decision on anything she says.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:16:05 PM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(God Bless Our Troops!!)
To: hoosiermama
If Karr is prosecuted for killing her. I will go into detail on the forum of why I think the garrotte he used was a "poor" choice. To kill someone in the manner the perp did by using a slipknot style garrotte shows inexperience on the perp's part. It takes a lot physical effort to kill someone including a child this way. I feel the perp was having a hard time trying to kill her with the slipknot garrotte and that is why he hit her hard in the head with something to finish her off. There is another style of garrotte that would be easier to use and no physical effort would be needed.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:22:41 PM PDT
by
stlnative
(WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
To: stlnative
correction...
and very little physical effort would be needed.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:26:34 PM PDT
by
stlnative
(WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
To: hoosiermama
Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't have a Comment. I don;t know where this is leading... stun gun is now a cattle prod?
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:29:42 PM PDT
by
onyx
(1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
To: Sacajaweau
>>>Kill my kid and it would make a LOT more sense that I'd go after you than help you.>>>
No kidding!!!
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:30:04 PM PDT
by
sandbar
To: ableLight
That was the 2nd time you've made me a Sainte, lol. I *wish.*
Meyer told a reporter very close to the case that is the full autopsy report, there is nothing left out.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:37:26 PM PDT
by
Rte66
To: Rte66
John Mark Karr--DNA NOT A MATCH
WIOD--SCHNITT SHOW | today | SCHNITT
Posted on 08/28/2006 2:37:23 PM CDT by Fawn
Schnitt just announced the breaking news. The DNA for JM Karr is NOT a match for Jon Benet evidence.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Click to Add Topic
KEYWORDS: KARR; Click to Add Keyword
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:38:17 PM PDT
by
onyx
(1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
To: colorado tanker
if that DNA does match, the chain of custody for the material - to the 2004 test where the full sample was "discovered", is going to be critical.
To: stlnative
Thanks, but they're not very tolerant of people who accept the possibility of an intruder...
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To: oceanview
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:41:36 PM PDT
by
onyx
(1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
To: hoosiermama
You think an intruder carried a car battery with him through that window? I don't.
I don't believe she was stunned or drugged.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:41:56 PM PDT
by
Rte66
To: onyx
Well, I'd have to say that sort of puts a damper on things. If he's not the guy, then he's not the guy.
He is a creep that needs to be prosecuted for the pornography charges though.
If he does know undisclosed details of the case, I would be curious is he may be in contact with the guy. I wonder if they are investigating that angle.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:43:06 PM PDT
by
Conservative Texan Mom
(Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
To: stlnative
Please don't link to other forums here. We *are* a forum.
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posted on
08/28/2006 12:43:39 PM PDT
by
Rte66
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