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If you thought Tiny Miss Beauty was creepy, don't even glance at this stuff
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 08/22/06 | Chris Ayres

Posted on 08/21/2006 2:58:06 PM PDT by Pokey78

IN THESE polarised and war-weary times, it’s good to know that Americans can agree on one thing: John Ramsey is a total creep.

Ramsey is the 63-year-old software entrepreneur whose daughter, JonBenet Ramsey, was beaten and strangled to death in her own home ten years ago. Although neither John nor his wife Pasty were ever charged, he was widely blamed for JonBenet’s killing — and continues to be, even after the death of Patsy from ovarian cancer and last week’s arrest of the teacher John Karr, a child-porn connoisseur who claims that he broke into the Ramseys’ home and murdered the six-year-old (the possibly delusional Karr was extradited from Thailand yesterday, allowing the New York Post to run a front-page photograph of Karr in business class, alongside the headline: “Snake on a Plane”).

Given Karr’s confession — and the lack of any hard evidence against the Ramseys — why does the girl’s father continue to be vilified? Because the businessman, whose late wife was a former Miss West Virginia, allowed his daughter to be trussed up like a call girl and paraded around kiddie-pageants — collecting such titles as Little Miss Merry Christmas, Little Miss Sunburst, and, my favourite, National Tiny Miss Beauty.

What father, tub-thumped the US public, could possibly allow his daughter to be sexualised in this way and displayed for the complicated pleasure of adults? Indeed, the latest development in the JonBenet case has given everyone a new excuse to get all moralistic about such violations of childhood.

Take The New York Times, which on Sunday dedicated its front page to a story about child modelling agencies that publish suggestive online photographs of pre-teens. Read the intro: “The model is shown rising out of a bubble bath, suds dripping from her body. Her tight panties and skimpy top are soaked and revealing . . . The model’s name is Sparkle. She is — at most — nine years old.”

I’m not going to argue that this isn’t deeply unsettling. But it seems only fair to point out that America has developed an astonishing set of double standards on the issue of child exploitation.

Consider America’s Got Talent, the Simon Cowell talent contest that became a huge hit in America over the summer months. Cowell’s show was one long creep-out of novelty kiddie acts, including an 11-year-old yodeller, a 12-year-old harmonica player and, inevitably, an 11-year-old soul diva whose star turn was the Janis Joplin track Piece of My Heart (sample lyric: Didn’t I make you feel like you were the only man, yeah?/ An’ didn’t I give you nearly everything that a woman possibly can?).

Little Miss Joplin ultimately won the wholesome $1 million prize money, and now has Michael Jackson’s adulthood to look forward to.

As for the harmonica player, no one could have cared less when it emerged that he had a “day job” at the topless variety show Buck Wild at the Sahara Hotel in Vegas.

So — let’s get this straight — JonBenet’s pageants were wrong, but a 12-year-old in a strip joint is fine?

And what about the recent boom in slick and sexy marketing to children by corporations? This is apparently fine also.

Indeed, The Los Angeles Times recently ran a five-part series on American tweens (pre-teens), written from a Hollywood marketer’s perspective. The tween demographic (as children are now known) is now responsible for up to $59 billion of discretionary spending every year — whether it’s iPods, kiddie spa treatments or Disneyland holidays. The desire to grab some of this cash appears to have entirely overtaken any desire to protect children from an onslaught of precision-targeted consumerism.

And because the best way to sell things to children is to use other children — who also, in an ideal world, appeal to parents — American popular culture is now saturated by such fare as America’s Got Talent, Radio Disney, Tweenstock (Disney’s music festival) and teen stars such as the Olsen twins, who will be billionaires before they reach drinking age.

In light of all this, America should give John Ramsey a break. Sure, he was a creep in 1996. But can anyone seriously get upset about the dubious taste of the National Tiny Miss Beauty pageant now?

Let’s face it: times have changed. The creep-o-meter needs to be recalibrated.


TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: childhood; creepometer; exploitation; fashion; jonbenet; ramsey
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To: Integrityrocks
[Little girls have been playing "dress up" and putting on mommy's make up since frills and make up were invented. Having little girl beauty contests, baby contests and any other sorts of contests for kids have always been perfectly acceptable.]



You are correct, these two things are perfectly acceptable.

What's not acceptable is when mom and dad turn a large portion of their daughter's life into "playing 'dress up' and putting on mommy's make up" for the benefit of the public.
61 posted on 08/21/2006 4:01:37 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule)
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To: AmeriBrit

It was mentioned on a documentary of the case.


62 posted on 08/21/2006 4:02:13 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: yldstrk

Appalled by what? How about your reaction to the makeup?


63 posted on 08/21/2006 4:02:41 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: Blackirish

adorable little whore




!!!?????
What a twisted comment. I bet that's what the creep arrested in Thailand was thinking too.


64 posted on 08/21/2006 4:05:23 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: spinestein

Where do you EVER get the idea that it's sole purpose is to attract SEXUAL allure? You really think that's why Patsy Ramsey dressed her kid up? So men would OGLE her??? Honestly?


65 posted on 08/21/2006 4:30:33 PM PDT by Hildy (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will.)
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To: Flora McDonald

As a child, I loved to watch old Shirley Temple Movies. As an adult I am appalled at the way adults dressed her in some of the movies. Specifically the littles dresses that never quite covered up her panties

That was the style. I had many dresses with lots of flounces and petticoats that were short. There were pretty party pants that were worn under them. I always loved to show off my party pants.

Still do.


66 posted on 08/21/2006 4:30:51 PM PDT by Chickensoup (S)
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To: Hildy

My wife, family members, friends, and co-workers all agree that the whole thing was one of the creepiest, perverted things they've ever seen. How you can believe these stupid kiddie pageants are good for children is beyond me.


67 posted on 08/21/2006 4:55:50 PM PDT by driftless2
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After reading some of the comments in this thread I couldn't believe how narrow minded some members could be. I.was prompted to pull out and look at some photo's from when my girls were that age. I guess I have to hang my head in shame. There are several in particular where their makeup is so thick you could peel it off. The photo's were taken when they were involved in a Parochial School Christmas performance of 'The Nativity' and it was the nuns who were in charge of costumes, makeup and hair, so the nuns were responsible for making my girls look like 'whores'. What must my husband and I have been thinking of at the time allowing the wicked nuns to exploit our daughters in such a manner?
68 posted on 08/21/2006 5:44:30 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Spreading the truth - Doing the job the MSM won't do!)
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To: AmeriBrit; All
Makeup has been used by children for eons. The only "sexualization" going on is by those who have it on their minds.


I'm always reminded by the judge who admonishes the rape victim while letting the rapist off with little time: "What did you think was going to happen wearing a mini and all that makeup?"

Only difference here is that some are blaming the parents not the victim herself...but it's a fine line between the tow.
69 posted on 08/21/2006 6:23:37 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: Pokey78

It really is true. People outside the USA are completly ignorant about the world.


70 posted on 08/21/2006 6:23:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AmeriBrit; All

Makeup has been used by children for eons. The only "sexualization" going on is by those who have it on their minds.


I'm always reminded by the judge who admonishes the rape victim while letting the rapist off with little time: "What did you think was going to happen wearing a mini and all that makeup?"

Only difference here is that some are blaming the parents not the victim herself...but it's a fine line between the two.


71 posted on 08/21/2006 6:23:57 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: eleni121
When you post a comment you should prolly read the whole thread but if your medication gets in the way thats sad.
I was responding to a poster who stated who thought that tarting up 6 year old children like a $20.00 whore was "adorable".

However maybe you think thats appropriate behavior also just like "the creep arrested in Thailand was thinking too."
72 posted on 08/21/2006 6:32:01 PM PDT by Blackirish (I'm George Allen and I apologize.)
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To: driftless2

How you see anything else is creepy to me.


73 posted on 08/21/2006 6:37:06 PM PDT by Hildy (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will.)
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To: Blackirish

Well...

I guess she looked like an adorable little whore.




I was responding to what you posted above.
My response to that stands.


74 posted on 08/21/2006 6:38:21 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: I want to know
But some people get overzealous in Little League sports, some people get overzealous in their children's schooling, some people get overzealous in disciplining their children

Bad behavior is bad behavior.

75 posted on 08/21/2006 7:12:21 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Toby06
How many daughters do you have?

Nada. Zip. Zilch.

Ever been to a pagent?

With this face?

Know what it takes to win one?

Not a clue.

That ain't right.

I agree.

76 posted on 08/21/2006 7:14:30 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: spinestein

Little boys will always play with guns, if you don't give them toy guns, they will use sticks, or even bite a piee of toast to resemble a gun.

Little girls will always play dressup, and try to look like little women, and try their hardest to get into mommy's makeup.


77 posted on 08/22/2006 4:06:56 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: Hildy

[Where do you EVER get the idea that it's sole purpose is to attract SEXUAL allure?]



Where did you get the idea that womens' makeup has any other purpose than sexual allure?


78 posted on 08/22/2006 9:42:34 AM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule)
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To: cripplecreek
"As for the harmonica player, no one could have cared less when it emerged that he had a “day job” at the topless variety show Buck Wild at the Sahara Hotel in Vegas."
"OMG"

I was shocked to read that about the kid. Regardless...he played a mean harmonica!

79 posted on 08/22/2006 10:43:34 AM PDT by sweet_diane
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To: spinestein

Me thinks you have not had relations for the last twenty years


80 posted on 08/23/2006 2:22:18 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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