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Boulder columnist tells 9NEWS about conversations with Ramsey suspect (Karr)
KUSA Denver ^ | August 19, 2006

Posted on 08/19/2006 5:16:19 PM PDT by Shermy

BOULDER - As a running columnist for the Boulder Daily Camera, Mike Sandrock had little interest in the JonBenet Ramsey investigation until he saw a photo in his paper's newsroom.

The picture staring back at him, Sandrock remembered the summer of 2002 in Paris like it was last week.

Sandrock travels the world covering running events, but this trip was used for research on an Ernest Hemmingway book he's preparing.

Beneath his Paris loft, Sandrock looked for motivation in a bookstore named Shakespeare and Company, a hangout of Hemmingway's in the 1920's where his thoughts and career once started to blossom.

Sandrock met many tourists in the historic shop, and shared several conversations, including many talks with a John Mark Karr.

"He was just a regular guy, clean cut, very pleasant in fact," said Sandrock.

The topics quickly focused on JonBenet Ramsey and Boulder, Colorado after Sandrock's occupation came up.

"He said what do you do? I told him I'm a columnist with the Daily Camera in Boulder, and he got so excited," said Sandrock.

Maybe excited was an understatement, as every word thereafter, was about the town and the story.

"He knew everything about it, everything," said Sandrock.

Karr recited many facts about Boulder, from landmarks to the location of the Daily Camera.

"I got the impression he had been in Boulder, then I thought he just saw the documentaries," said Sandrock.

Documentaries produced by CU Professor Michael Tracy, whom Sandrock knew, and someone Karr wanted to know.

After talking with Karr on several occasions that summer, Sandrock was no longer interested in the subject, but later agreed to put Karr in touch with Professor Tracy through e-mail.

"I got the impression he wanted to talk more, but I stopped the conversations when he got into how the girl died, I just was not interested in that," said Sandrock.

Sandrock said Karr never discussed having visited Colorado, and never got the impression that Karr was a murderer, only extremely consumed with JonBenet Ramsey and her death.

"That's the thing, he wasn't that different, just obsessive, even in Boulder you meet a lot of people that are obsessive," said Sandrock.


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KEYWORDS: jonbenet; karr; ramsey
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To: Shermy

Things that make you go hmmmm.


21 posted on 08/19/2006 6:43:27 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: hoosiermama
I noticed the brother did not appear the next night, as he told Greta he would.....Maybe he got a lawyer. His X has changed her story a bit too. Now just can't remember him not being with family.

I've read a lot about this the last few days, so I don't remember where I read it. At some point the brother insisted Mark & Family spent Christmas with them in GA (?) and then the wife is simultaneously saying they were in AL. Don't hold my feet to the fire on all that. Don't know if you follow Steve Huff's blog (he's my favorite crime blogger) but there's a good bit of research on his site at http://crimeblog.us/. You'll have to scroll down till you get to "Arrest in Ramsey Case, Part 3". There are links to Part 1 and Part 2. But it's definitely the most comprehensive research on Karr.

22 posted on 08/19/2006 6:44:28 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: hoosiermama

Good theories!


23 posted on 08/19/2006 6:44:39 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: hoosiermama

he got to Boulder at 4PM, he had tape and rope with him, he got into the house somehow, found his way around a complicated house, moved the child into the basement into a room even the police couldn't locate when they searched the house, killed her, then went to find paper, wrote a practice ransom note, then wrote the real 3 page ransom note, then left and went directly to the airport to fly home?

are you kidding me?


24 posted on 08/19/2006 6:48:04 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Shermy
Taken in 2000 with his 3 sons. Looks like your average guy
25 posted on 08/19/2006 6:48:49 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

It looks like he didn't want the picture taken. Are his hands partially clenched? Or am I using my imagination.


26 posted on 08/19/2006 6:52:21 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: oceanview

Following up on your scenario .... He would have had hours while the Ramseys were away that night to roam around the house and more time after they got home and he waited for them to go to sleep, to write the note.


27 posted on 08/19/2006 6:53:24 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Sacajaweau

I think the left hand is kind of grabbing his son's knee.
And the right hand looks a bit closed, but not clenched.


28 posted on 08/19/2006 6:55:03 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: lysie; Carolinamom
Carolinamom has indeed hit the nail on the head. Fortunately, most of the English teachers in Thailand are no pedophiles but most are traveling and teaching to survive. Most are kids, just out of college, who have romantic visions of traveling the world and spreading knowledge where they go. Those I have run across in Chiang Mai seem to be having a good time. After a year or two, most go back home and settle down to the realities of life. A few get married and continue in the country of their choice. I know a Belgian who owns a restaurant and guesthouse and also teaches French at a private school and does quite well.

The bad part of it is, of course, that some are those whose trips begin as sex tourism and result in a marriage to a bar girl. Things tend to go down hill from their and many of these folk end up in jail for drug trafficking or, increasingly lately, pedophilia.

29 posted on 08/19/2006 6:55:35 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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To: oceanview
You missed the Would have to be well planned in advance.

AM assuming those plans would include a layout of the house etc. Even with that "not very likely". OTOH if they were gone for quite a while he would have plenty of time to explore the house. Easy to tell a little girl's room with the decor.

30 posted on 08/19/2006 6:57:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: nuconvert
I think they were away the day before. That was the day he got the stationary, pen and scoped out the house. I don't think there was snow on the ground the day before....and you know what.....We're lousy observers.

It's "noise" which awakens our instincts. Besides, during the holidays, things get moved all over the place.....and they have a housekeeper.

31 posted on 08/19/2006 6:59:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

The murder was on Christmas. The Ramsey family went out Christmas night.


32 posted on 08/19/2006 7:00:41 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: hoosiermama
There is no way this prosecutor would have gone after Karr if she had not checked out where he was during the night of the murder. The first thing a prosecutor does is check out the time line. If he was somewhere else he could not have done the crime. I think the prosecutor has him in Boulder and not in Alabama.

When the prosecutor is not talking, you can figure she has her case bound up tight. Why would a Prosecutor take the chance on a ruined reputation for indicting a crazy man based on his crazy confession? No attorney is that dumb. She would be out their saying .... we are just investigating ... or ... He is just a person of interest. etc.

The prosecutor is committed. I think that says she has an open and shut case... otherwise she is one dumb prosecutor.

33 posted on 08/19/2006 7:01:41 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: hoosiermama

in the dark?

the video of that basement - its a maze, the wine cellar, this room where the murder took place.

the only possible way Karr could have done this - if he had entered the house while the family was at the party, and was inside alone for house, and had a chance to figure out where everything was, find the paper, the location of the rooms, etc. then he just waited in the basement until everyone went to sleep, and made his move.


34 posted on 08/19/2006 7:02:12 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: nuconvert

where did he stay the night before the crime, and where did he go directly after the crime?


35 posted on 08/19/2006 7:04:13 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
"He was just a regular guy, clean cut, very pleasant in fact," said Sandrock.

From all the broadcasts we've seen, it's painfully obvious that this clown is hardly a "regular guy"...I quit reading at that point.

36 posted on 08/19/2006 7:04:58 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (u)
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To: oceanview

Why did he have to stay anywhere the day before if he flew in that day?
If he had flown in the day before, he could have stayed at a shelter, who knows?


37 posted on 08/19/2006 7:06:52 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert
Looks like your average guy

Not in this part of California...he looks like a blow-dried poofter raving faggot. Hardly your "average guy".

38 posted on 08/19/2006 7:09:10 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (u)
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To: kms61

You don't know either? I guess it's just the two of us then. I am always amazed at the ease with which people hop all over the globe without any visible income. If you find out will you let me know?


39 posted on 08/19/2006 7:10:52 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: ErnBatavia

"...he looks like a blow-dried poofter raving faggot. Hardly your "average guy"."

Not to me. Not the way he's dressed.
Looks like a family trip to San Fran photo to me.


40 posted on 08/19/2006 7:11:56 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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