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Boulder columnist tells 9NEWS about conversations with Ramsey suspect (Karr)
KUSA Denver ^ | August 19, 2006

Posted on 08/19/2006 5:16:19 PM PDT by Shermy

BOULDER - As a running columnist for the Boulder Daily Camera, Mike Sandrock had little interest in the JonBenet Ramsey investigation until he saw a photo in his paper's newsroom.

The picture staring back at him, Sandrock remembered the summer of 2002 in Paris like it was last week.

Sandrock travels the world covering running events, but this trip was used for research on an Ernest Hemmingway book he's preparing.

Beneath his Paris loft, Sandrock looked for motivation in a bookstore named Shakespeare and Company, a hangout of Hemmingway's in the 1920's where his thoughts and career once started to blossom.

Sandrock met many tourists in the historic shop, and shared several conversations, including many talks with a John Mark Karr.

"He was just a regular guy, clean cut, very pleasant in fact," said Sandrock.

The topics quickly focused on JonBenet Ramsey and Boulder, Colorado after Sandrock's occupation came up.

"He said what do you do? I told him I'm a columnist with the Daily Camera in Boulder, and he got so excited," said Sandrock.

Maybe excited was an understatement, as every word thereafter, was about the town and the story.

"He knew everything about it, everything," said Sandrock.

Karr recited many facts about Boulder, from landmarks to the location of the Daily Camera.

"I got the impression he had been in Boulder, then I thought he just saw the documentaries," said Sandrock.

Documentaries produced by CU Professor Michael Tracy, whom Sandrock knew, and someone Karr wanted to know.

After talking with Karr on several occasions that summer, Sandrock was no longer interested in the subject, but later agreed to put Karr in touch with Professor Tracy through e-mail.

"I got the impression he wanted to talk more, but I stopped the conversations when he got into how the girl died, I just was not interested in that," said Sandrock.

Sandrock said Karr never discussed having visited Colorado, and never got the impression that Karr was a murderer, only extremely consumed with JonBenet Ramsey and her death.

"That's the thing, he wasn't that different, just obsessive, even in Boulder you meet a lot of people that are obsessive," said Sandrock.


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KEYWORDS: jonbenet; karr; ramsey
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To: Common Tator

Outstanding analysis! I think you are correct!


101 posted on 08/19/2006 10:26:50 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: PhiKapMom


I sure hope he's right. Mud over all the media faces.


102 posted on 08/19/2006 10:30:04 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Common Tator

I just suspect that this guy is a loon. I wouldn't be surprised if he claimed to have shot both Kennedys and J.R. Ewing...


103 posted on 08/19/2006 10:36:14 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Triggerhippie

Somehow, it's incomprehensible to me that Lacey has nothing compelling on him. After all this time, to do this in Thailand and have nothing? If it's true that she has nothing, she should be (1) fired from her job, (2) disbarred and fined, and (3) prosecuted for malfeasance by the State of Colorado for her wild goose chase.


104 posted on 08/19/2006 10:58:37 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: oceanview
he got to Boulder at 4PM, he had tape and rope with him, he got into the house somehow, found his way around a complicated house, moved the child into the basement into a room even the police couldn't locate when they searched the house, killed her, then went to find paper, wrote a practice ransom note, then wrote the real 3 page ransom note, then left and went directly to the airport to fly home?

Don't forget the chloroform. When I'm out walking around unfamiliar neighborhoods looking for little girls to rape for Christmas, I always make sure I'm carrying chloroform with me. (do I really need to put a sarcasm tag here?)

105 posted on 08/19/2006 11:17:49 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: ErnBatavia
From all the broadcasts we've seen, it's painfully obvious that this clown is hardly a "regular guy"...

Yes, but we're talking about Boulder. San Francisco with mountains. "Normal" in Boulder might be considered really weird in a lot of other places.

106 posted on 08/19/2006 11:24:27 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: oceanview
I have to dismiss John Douglas because he was paid by the Ramseys, and I don't think he ever talked with Patsy at all....( via a telephone conversation with Fuhrman many years ago)...I also think he was hired with the condition that he never talk to the public about what he found unless it was favorable to the Ramseys.....

that's one reason I don't trust Henry Lee.....he too gets himself "hired" and then you wonder if what he "finds" is the real truth or the convenient truth.....

107 posted on 08/19/2006 11:43:40 PM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: nmh
"#25 ... wonder if he molested his sons too? Or just little girls?"

if one was judgemental, something that we never, ever are here on FR, one would take a look at Karr and declare him to be a flaming pedo after little boys......

you know what I wonder?.....I wonder if something happened to Burke that night.......the cops weren't allowed to talk to him alone and during the 911 call, you could hear the parents supposedly telling him something like "haven't you done enough" ...IIRC....

108 posted on 08/19/2006 11:49:25 PM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: Shermy

Sounds like he's been everywhere except Boulder.


109 posted on 08/19/2006 11:53:44 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Shermy

bttt


110 posted on 08/19/2006 11:56:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Technical Editor

Colorado needs to pin this on someone to try to eliminate the stigma of really sh!tty policework. From what little I've read, the crime scene was compromised from the beginning. The Ramsey case is one that will long be remembered in CO law enforcement circles as "What not to do."

Kinda like the O.J. case with all the really bad evidence tampering for LAPD... I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that, after searching the Bronco for blood four times, they found blood the fifth time (with anti-coagulant in it) and the blood sample drawn from O.J. was a few c.c.s short! I don't care if O.J. did it or not, someone in the LAPD needs to be behind bars for that.


111 posted on 08/20/2006 12:01:53 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Well, his HS classmates said he always dressed snazzy and there was that flyer that John Ramsey sent around the neighborhood in Boulder looking for the "well-dressed gentleman" intruder.

If Karr did this, I don't think the Barbie nightgown would've been left beside her.


112 posted on 08/20/2006 12:02:55 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Common Tator

Very well said ............... but I still don't think he did it.


113 posted on 08/20/2006 12:26:12 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: Common Tator

I wonder if any dead guys were missing a delorean back then.


114 posted on 08/20/2006 12:30:06 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: stlnative
Very interesting, especially the part about him needing admiration. This ties into what we were discussing as one of the underlying motivations for that*ransom*note. Two things in common, pedophilia and an overwhelming desire for admiration. I would be curious if anyone in his family knows if he studied other child murder cases, like the Walsh case, before JonBenet's death.
115 posted on 08/20/2006 12:46:20 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: cherry

I really doubt this Kerr guy did it. He's a freak for sure, but I don't think he is the one ... .


116 posted on 08/20/2006 12:53:26 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Rte66
I think it was a sports jersey that was left with her. I don't know, the facts seem to change daily.

One thing that makes no sense to me about this Karr guy. He's obsessed with this case, at the very least. After conversing with Tracey for four years, and getting his hands on any little grub of evidence, why say things that are easily refuted. Take the chloroform thing, the autopsy report is on the internet. Why would he say that when he knew from his studies that it wasn't so?
117 posted on 08/20/2006 1:19:04 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Rte66

""well-dressed gentleman" intruder"

Actually, thats kind of funny. How does one tell the difference between a well dressed gentleman intruder, and just a well dressed gentleman? I suppose catching a well dressed gentleman in the act of intruding is one way.


118 posted on 08/20/2006 1:21:58 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

John R had heard reports of a guy in the neighborhood going up and talking to people the week before JonBenet was killed. Evidently, he wore nice clothes, lol - but whether or not he was an intruder, we don't know. There were rumors of break-ins in the neighborhood during that period of time, but nothing ever came of it.

The funny thing is that John *did* catch a real intruder years later, probably 2001, can't remember now, in their house in ATL which they had said was super-secure because of what had happened to JonBenet.

He went to Home Depot for a few minutes and the alarm went off, which called one of Patsy's sisters, I think - and she was sitting out front in her car, too scared to go in, when he got back. He took a frying pan - seems like Pam had it - to hit the burglar with, lol.

When he got in, the burglar was coming down the stairs with two suitcases and John yelled at him "those are mine!" The guy somehow got John and locked him in the bathroom and moved a grandfather clock in front of the door, then fled. He stole computers, John's wallet, some of his guns, can't remember all of it.

JR went down to the police station (wouldn't ever go for the murder of his daughter, mind you) to do a sketch. The description was a "well-dressed black man" intruder. Not kidding.

Be on the lookout! Guy in Brooks Brothers strikes again!


119 posted on 08/20/2006 2:18:13 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

It was her favorite Barbie nightgown. Priscilla White knew it, but evidently Patsy had forgotten - it was JonBenet's lucky nightie that she always made sure she wore the night before a pageant - and made sure it was packed, if going out of town for a pageant.

Patsy thought it was ratty.


120 posted on 08/20/2006 2:20:15 AM PDT by Rte66
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