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Breaking - Ramsey Case
CNN ^ | 8/18/06 | CNN

Posted on 08/18/2006 9:11:49 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog

A U.S. law enforcement official tells CNN that the man held in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey offered details about the condition of her body that have never been made public.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bogus; fraudtracey; jmkjbr; jonbenet; karr; murder; ramsey; thailand
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

" ... It could be like you say too. The point is that the evidence pointing to an intruder may be just as strong, if not more so then evidence pointing to the parents. ..."

*I* did not say that!


281 posted on 08/18/2006 4:38:58 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Halls

That's not even a word.


282 posted on 08/18/2006 4:39:38 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: snowstorm12
I looked at an earlier post of *supposedly* Patsy handwriting, next to the *supposed* ransom note. E's and A's stood out as different, of course, one could say it was a deliberate attempt to conceal. E's and A's from this letter have the same form. I haven't looked side by side though, and I'm no expert.
283 posted on 08/18/2006 4:40:25 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: delacoert

Most people do not use "hence" every day. When they do, most people do not add "and" to hence.

It is an remarkable coincidence that the author of the ransom note used the incorrect phrase "and hence" as did the Ramseys, one year later, in a note to their church.


284 posted on 08/18/2006 4:41:31 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: delacoert

Then you're saying "and and therefore". "Hence" = "and therefore."


285 posted on 08/18/2006 4:41:47 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Enchante
"...wealthy people often fly people in, especially someone they know, to do such work or consult, etc."

of course it would seem very odd for such a trip to occur over Christmas, and his ex-wife claims he never left Alabama at that time, but it's at least possible that some occasion existed that brought him to CO for a few days. Also, given his character and personality there might well have been holidays when his ex-wife didn't want him around, even if she doesn't want to talk about that now. She took a restraining order against him approaching their kids, I read that somewhere, so he probably wasn't an angel to her.
286 posted on 08/18/2006 4:42:35 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Mainstream Journalism)
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To: Rte66

My kids have several Santa Bears. It seems like they get one from a relative every year at Christmas.


287 posted on 08/18/2006 4:43:27 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Rte66
It's not common to me and I've read just about everything there is on this case.

Also, you still haven't answered my question regarding why the parents thought it necessary to rape Jonbenet with the paint brush and which one did the raping. I'm waiting.

288 posted on 08/18/2006 4:44:44 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: Rte66

"Then you're saying "and and therefore". "Hence" = "and therefore."

Yes - you've nailed it!


289 posted on 08/18/2006 4:45:46 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Rte66
Ok found the info, and you were partly correct - not bad for a report from 5-6 years ago.

The bear was not given to Jonbenet by a pegeant director -- it was a giveaway to the contestants at the Amerikids Pegeant held on Decmeber 14, 2006 of which Jonbenet was a contestant. So that explains where Jonbenet's bear came from.

Now, on to the picture of Karr. Reports have been all over the place -- it is a current pic, it is a pic of him as a child, it is blah blah blah....

What is known from the statements made by Tracey and "sources" -- When Karr sent Tracey the picture he referred to the bear in the picture as one of his most prized possessions. NOW, what in that picture and those words could in tracey's own words "SEND SHIVERS DOWN HIS SPINE" and cause him to immediately report it to the authorities (again may be wrong here, but the reports are that the picture and statement were the catalyst for Tracey to finally go to the authorities about Karr.

I propose this - The picture may be the LINK we are all wondering about. Could it be a picture of Karr holding the bear AT the Amerikids Pegeant that Jonbenet was at??? Or even scarier, could be be a picture Karr snapped in the Ramsey home? (farfetched I know -- BUT there has to be something in that picture we are ot being told about that "Sent chills down" Tracy's spine.

290 posted on 08/18/2006 4:46:21 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Rte66

I wish he would investigate. I would like to hear his perspective. It's hard to be patient! Hope they put a rush on that DNA. I think it's the only evidence that answer this with certainty.

It may not be him, but I don't think it was the parents.


291 posted on 08/18/2006 4:49:04 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: fivecatsandadog
I don't even know where I keep paintbrushes.

But what I don't understand is the whole paintbrush thing.

Isn't there an easier way to strangle somebody and how would one even make a garrote out of a paintbrush????
292 posted on 08/18/2006 4:51:45 PM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: Rte66

"I'd like to know why a guy who lived in AL with his family happened to shop for black duct tape at McGuckin's Hardware store in Boulder or managed to get a roll from that same Shurtape shipment from October/November 1996."

Was he found with duct tape from this specific store?



293 posted on 08/18/2006 4:52:04 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Rte66; Professor
Here's the results for a Google search on the exact phrase "and hence".

Notice there are 68,700,000 hits.

Also, be advised I'm not claiming that I am particularly literate, just that I'm in a large company.

294 posted on 08/18/2006 4:52:07 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: commish

Do you know where the Amerikids pageant was?


295 posted on 08/18/2006 4:54:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: EnquiringMind

ping to 294


296 posted on 08/18/2006 4:55:10 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Conservative Texan Mom; Rte66

Mark has been on Greta's show the last couple of nights...he is very leery of this whole confession and has stated that the DNA is gonna make or break this case with Karr


297 posted on 08/18/2006 4:55:43 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

You know I have looked an analysis of the ransom note and I can see how and why people think the Ramsey's were involved in the murder of their daughter, but I can't get passed seeing them actually doing the crime itself. For them to sit there and sexually assault their daughter, strangle her, hit her in the head like that I just can't see it being so.

Of course I couldn't see Susan Smith drowning her 2 kids like she did either but that is another issue.

I still don't think the Ramsey's did this crime and I hope that this guy actually did this crime. But how I just don't know and maybe we will find out in days to come if he did and just how.


298 posted on 08/18/2006 4:57:20 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: Rte66

It was on a documentary within the last year aired on Court TV. He didn't demonstrate it over and over. He just did it once as he was talking about his investigation. At the time, he made a comment about detectives thinking it was too small, then he just did it. I need to see if I can find the documentary. It was very interesting!


299 posted on 08/18/2006 4:57:51 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: altura
They had a picture yesterday. It reminded me of a tourniquet (sp).

I'll bet Karr is red cross certified.

I think I remember the picture being similar to what I remember from my brother's boy scout book....but that was 50 years ago.

300 posted on 08/18/2006 4:58:11 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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