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JonBenet Ramsey Murder: Psychic Drawing (1998) vs Karr
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Posted on 08/17/2006 7:30:29 PM PDT by HitmanLV

To this day, John and Patsy Ramsey have lived up to their promise and continue to search for their daughter's killer. They have posted a composite sketch of a suspect compiled by the late psychic, Dorothy Allison, on their Internet site with the attached message:

"Have you seen this man? This man may have been in the Boulder area in December 1996. ... We firmly believe that this most horrible of killers will be caught based on information provided by people who care about right and wrong. ... Please help, so another innocent child will not be a victim and another family will not suffer unbearable grief."

Allison, who claimed to have assisted police investigations, came up with her vision of the suspect during an April 1998 appearance on a network television show. She died on December 3, 1999. Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner declined to comment on the late psychic's work.

(Excerpt) Read more at crimelibrary.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: couldbeanybody; jonbenet; karr; murder; nostrodamuscalledit; notevenclose; pagingmisscleo; psychic; ramsey; sketch
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To: Shooter 2.5

Nobody has been able to explain how one bullet could do all the things it would have to have done either.

Years later Gerald Ford admitted changing some of the trajectory detail to make that theory work.

To be honest, I don't remember the particulars associated with that since it's been awhile.


121 posted on 08/18/2006 11:35:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: HitmanLV

It could be DB Cooper, too.

122 posted on 08/18/2006 11:41:04 AM PDT by Nitro (Mil)
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To: frogjerk
He said he drugged Jon Benet but the autopsy did not reveal any drugs in her system.

Also, how did he know the exact amount of Dad's bonus check and why would he depend on finding all he would need in the house? People on a "mission" bring their gear with.

Not to mention all the time it would take to do the abduction, then panic and kill, then visit the kitchen, then redress the kid and then on amd on amd on.

It just doesn't seem plausible.

123 posted on 08/18/2006 11:48:27 AM PDT by Nitro (Mil)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Chest cold or wird attempt at genital stimulation.


124 posted on 08/18/2006 11:49:19 AM PDT by Nitro (Mil)
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To: HitmanLV
Another comparison from more or less the same angle:


125 posted on 08/18/2006 11:49:47 AM PDT by LibWhacker (There are no such things as moderate muslims, only jihadis in a larval stage.)
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To: txroadkill
I wouldn't be surprised if something just like that happened again.......

keep in mind the entire Boulder PD sh!t the bed on this case.

Apparently, they couldn't find a hooker in a whore house.

126 posted on 08/18/2006 11:53:17 AM PDT by Nitro (Mil)
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To: DoughtyOne

Actually, they found out how the single bullet did it's work. They mapped out Dealy Plaza and used computer drawings to show the trajectory. Pretty simplistic. They also tracked the bullet to it's origin. It was within a nine foot diameter of the sixth floor window.


127 posted on 08/18/2006 1:03:14 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Thanks for the comments.


128 posted on 08/18/2006 1:10:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: HitmanLV
That's pretty damn accurate! Spooky!

Ugh. Not this again. There is no resemblance between the drawing and Karr. I posted the following on another thread about this. May as well repeat it here:

The drawing shows a man with thin, parted hair combed to the side. Karr's hair is thicker and not parted.

The drawing shows a man with a wide, triangular-shaped face and prominent cheekbones. Karr's face is long, narrow and rectangular, and his cheekbones are flat.

The drawing shows a man with almond-shaped eyes. Karr's eyes are round.

The drawing shows a man with a short, somewhat crooked, rather wide nose. Karr's nose is long, straight and thin.

The drawing shows a man with thin lips. Karr's lips are not thin.

The drawing shows a man with a narrow, pointed chin. Karr's chin is square and broad.

The drawing shows a man with a short neck. Karr's neck is long and kind of thin.

Other than that, yeah, there's a similarity. [/sarcasm]
Oh, and by the way, the following photograph is a much more honest point of comparison with the drawing.

 

129 posted on 08/18/2006 1:12:31 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: stlnative

The smaller photo...was that Karr at an earlier point in his life? If so, he was a pretty good-looking man. Now he looks extremely underweight. In any case, in neither photo does he look anything like the drawing.


130 posted on 08/18/2006 1:14:45 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: tioga
Uncanny.

Gullible.

131 posted on 08/18/2006 1:16:51 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Nitro

DB Cooper looks more like Karr than that sketch from the psychic.


132 posted on 08/18/2006 1:17:40 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Wolfstar

It looks close enough that you cannot discount the drawing. Add it to the freaky coinkydinky file and toss it in the mix.


133 posted on 08/18/2006 1:20:01 PM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga
It looks close enough that you cannot discount the drawing.

Yes you can. Only people who are easily led by the power of suggestion see any resemblance, other than the fact that the drawing depicts a white man and Karr is white.

One thing I didn't put in my list, but may as well mention it now: The drawing shows eyes that are not deep-set. You can see the upper eyelids. Karr's eyes are set deeper and you can't see his upper eyelids.

134 posted on 08/18/2006 1:26:11 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Wolfstar
I do not care what anyone says........

I still think the parents were involved.

And Flt 800 was a terrorist missle shot.

135 posted on 08/18/2006 1:26:44 PM PDT by Nitro (Mil)
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To: Blogger
Yes they are both Caucasian.
But, the likeness is there. For instance the tiny neck with the big gaunt face. The hair. It is just too similar. And to pick out the WEAK features. When you think of a sick pervert, do you picture a skinny loser who is "well" dressed. Or do you picture some creep like Rodney Dangerfield?
I don't know for sure, but I think the resemblance is creepy.
P.S. by well dressed I mean clean. Definitely not in touch with today's fashion.
136 posted on 08/18/2006 1:37:53 PM PDT by SHARI BABY (Love the Children)
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To: Nitro

How about the moon landing?


137 posted on 08/18/2006 1:38:45 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Nitro
I do not care what anyone says...I still think the parents were involved

If what we in the general public have been told about this case for all these years is true, then the only logical conclusion is that the killer had some connection to the family and that house. Given the facts that have been made public, it's just too hard to imagine someone randomly picked that child, that rambling home, that bedroom, that storeroom in the basement, and that information in the ransom note out of thin air.

138 posted on 08/18/2006 1:38:48 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Wolfstar

I want to see a pic of him at the time of the murder. You are not swaying me, perhaps your arguement is strong enough. I actually do not believe he did it so I am not convincing myself because I believe it is him. I think the pic is darn close.


139 posted on 08/18/2006 2:10:26 PM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga
I want to see a pic of him at the time of the murder.

John Mark Karr, 1982-83 high school yearbook photo.

John Mark Karr, undated photos.


140 posted on 08/18/2006 2:41:36 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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