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Man says he drugged, had sex with Ramsey
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, August 17, 2006

Posted on 08/17/2006 11:16:54 AM PDT by Peace4EarthNow

BANGKOK, Thailand - The American suspect in the killing of JonBenet Ramsey told investigators that he drugged and had sex with the 6-year-old beauty queen before accidentally killing her, a senior Thai police officer said Thursday.

An autopsy on Ramsey said a blood screening showed no drugs or alcohol in her body but said she had vaginal abrasions.

Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul, head of Thailand's immigration police, said by telephone that he was not present for the questioning, which was conducted by U.S. law enforcement officials.

But, according to what the general said he was told of the questioning, the suspect, John Mark Karr, "said he drugged the child." Suwat did not say who briefed him on the questioning.

Karr claimed he had sex with Ramsey, who was still alive, Suwat said. Karr said he then realized he had "accidentally" killed her, according to the general.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy said it had no information about Karr's alleged actions or what he said to questioners. U.S. and Colorado law enforcement officials were unavailable for comment.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 1queerbird; alienalert; bangkok; capitalcrimes; creepy; crime; criminality; deathpenalty; extradition; ishotreagan; johnmarkkarr; jonbenet; jonbenetramsey; justice; justicesystem; legal; maybeguiltymaybenot; mentalillness; murder; murderer; patsy; punishment; ramsey; thailand
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To: Almondjoy

"Willfully using false information to make it look like he's just a kook instead of the actual killer?"

hmmmm, interesting...


161 posted on 08/17/2006 2:06:56 PM PDT by Soccer-Dad777
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To: angkor
just two days after getting a teaching job at an international school in the same area, police said.

Whew! That was a close one for those kids! They either had a pervert or a nutjob (or both) for a teacher.

162 posted on 08/17/2006 2:07:08 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Soccer-Dad777

This story stinks all over the place.


163 posted on 08/17/2006 2:08:54 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: Red Badger

Right from the start the story made no sense at all. There was no way he could have written the ransom note because it contained too much personal information, he also said he kidnapped her but there is no evidence of her being removed from the home. Also the inside information he provided could have been very general in nature and be guessed by anyone with knowledge of crime scenes.


164 posted on 08/17/2006 2:09:56 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Jaded
"I read yesterday the DNA matched"

You probably did, but was it true?

I'm still concerned that he might be giving a false confession.

Guilty or not, he was obsessed with this case, and made it his mission to focus on it.. There are thousands of articles and details available on the internet. Details WE haven't bothered to read that he might know..

One particular blog I happened upon had details and theories I haven't heard reported before, and I'd hesitate to repeat them, because they are so outrageous.

We wait....

sw

165 posted on 08/17/2006 2:11:34 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I have calves bigger than that guy's neck, and my legs are pretty slender still.


166 posted on 08/17/2006 2:15:58 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: Peace4EarthNow

Could it be possible this guy is escaping the prison of Thialand? He looks like he is a good AIDS candidate and might need medical treatment. Our prisons are sooooo good and free medical care.


167 posted on 08/17/2006 2:17:02 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Orange1998; ElkGroveDan; Jaded

Sort of a generic skinny white guy in his 30s or so with no facial hair, which is probably the profile that the FBI comes up with every time in a case like this.


168 posted on 08/17/2006 2:19:04 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Red Badger

The second one is a Hollywood actor.

169 posted on 08/17/2006 2:26:54 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: MichiganConservative

Yeah, I know. I confess I've sometimes watched it when there's some big breaking tabloidy story (though only on the weekends, since I don't have or want a TV in my weekday residence). Greta gives me the creeps though -- I can almost believe she's got invisible thetans stuck all over her :-)


170 posted on 08/17/2006 2:54:17 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: stm; cherry

The actual autopsy report posted on smoking gun says exactly the oppossite.


171 posted on 08/17/2006 2:55:14 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Basically your saying "We all look alike". The sketch was dead on.


172 posted on 08/17/2006 3:01:14 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: r9etb

If I recall there was evidence of previous sexual abuse. Or at least medical findings which might have indicated previous sexual abuse. Also how did this guy know about the wine cellar? Why would he risk assaulting Jonbenet in her own home? How did he know enough details about John Ramsey's business to compose the ransom note? How did he know enough about the lay of house to sneak into Jonbenet's room?

I'm not buying it. I think the guy may know the killer. Especially if Karr has been involved in child porn. And I think the killer is someone the Ramsey's knew. Even if only slightly. The kiddy pageant world must draw pedophiles by the s load.


173 posted on 08/17/2006 3:07:49 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

I think he has a physical illness. A very serious one.


174 posted on 08/17/2006 3:14:40 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: stm

Yes that is what I was thinking too.


175 posted on 08/17/2006 3:18:33 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Yep, Robert Patrick could pull off that role. So could Nicolas Cage, if he lost about forty pounds. Not that either of them would *want* to...


176 posted on 08/17/2006 3:20:24 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: cherry
From the autopsy report:

Toxicologic Studies

blood ethanol - none detected
blood drug screen - no drugs detected

CLINOCOPATHOLIGICAL CORRELATION:

Cause of death of this six year old female is asphyxia by strangulation associated with craniocerebral trauma.

John E. Meyer M.D. Pathologist jn/12/27/96

177 posted on 08/17/2006 3:21:48 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: MichiganConservative
From what I understand, the Ramsey's lived in Georgia and had Jon Benet there. They moved to Colorado when JB was about about 2 years old. Then they moved back to Georgia after the murder.

Which makes Karr's story all the more implausible. How did he "love" this little girl when she was still in diapers? Did he work in a day care? Was he a member of the same church? How did he know who this girl was before she started on the pagaent tour? I think he's lying.

178 posted on 08/17/2006 3:23:42 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
It doesn't sound like this guy has been sending home fat alimony or child support checks.

That's another question I'm asking myself. Where did he get the money to be such a world traveler? His employment history doesn't suggest he was making much money and I doubt he was sending anything in child support. Who was footing the bill for visits to Europe and the Far East?

179 posted on 08/17/2006 3:26:14 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: spectre

There is considerable debate from forensic pathologists as to which trauma occurred first, the strangulation or the BFT. To me at least the evidence seems to point to the strangulation first and BFT second since there was not a lot of subdural bleeding from a rather extensive (7-8") lateral crack in her skull with a small displaced fragment. In the big scheme of things, however, dead is still dead and murder is still murder.


180 posted on 08/17/2006 3:36:35 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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