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JonBenet Ramsey D.A.: More Work Needed ("Don't jump to conclusions")
AP ^ | 8/17/06

Posted on 08/17/2006 9:28:21 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside

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To: NinoFan
It is possible. This hits very close to home now. Shannon Paulk lived just down the street from my Mother-in-law, although we did not know her or her family.

The other 2 murders were similar enough to the Paulk murder that officials think they may be connected. The No Alabama and Georgia case both happened close to places Karr once lived and that he would have been familiar with.

It may be nothing at all, but was a shock to hear it on the radio just now, and then see the story online in the local paper.

341 posted on 08/17/2006 12:13:58 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I thought Ed Smart and his brother were a little strange and they made some odd comments, but as I recall, the Smarts cooperated fully with the police when their daughter disappeared, and there wasn't a lawyer visibly on the scene. The Smarts didn't get railroaded into anything.


342 posted on 08/17/2006 12:17:54 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: EnquiringMind
Good point. Also, I read on one of these threads that Karr had corresponded with Jonbenet's grandparents under the guise of writing an investigative piece on the murder.

I had not heard that little tidbit. Even if true, I wouldn't think that the grandparents would have given away any classified information regarding the murder of their granddaughter. However, some elderly folks can be victims too.

I heard it mentioned that this guy was writing a book. That's why I got to thinking that IF that is true, perhaps he managed to bribe someone in the police department, etc., OR perhaps gained the trust of, or became friends with someone who had access to classified information and got them to say more than they should have. Stranger things have happened.

343 posted on 08/17/2006 12:18:17 PM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: Irene Adler
From one of the books I read on the case, the Ramseys each got a separate attorney. If this is true, it likely indicates that the interests of the two Ramseys would prove to be different if push came to shove in the case (for instance, if one of them were charged.

I agree.Also,I've read that,at least for awhile,they refused to be questioned separately.My understanding is that in such situations cops want to question the couple individually and then compare the stories.The closer the two stories are,the more likely it is that they're telling the truth.

344 posted on 08/17/2006 12:19:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Locomotive Breath

Out of an abundance of caution many people will not hire men to babysit or act as nanny for their children, and I wouldn't either. I suppose others share my predictable bias.


345 posted on 08/17/2006 12:20:21 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: San Jacinto

He's also a trainer for the FBI, ICE and law enforcement all over the country to conducting lie detector tests. He's also considered THE expert on reading polygraph results and has been used in courts for both prosecution and defense atty's in more cases than most judges will even see in their lives.

The mans's credibility is impecible, he never met the Ramsey's prior to administering the test either. People want to make a big deal of the fact that the Ramsey lawyers hired him to do the test. If they were so worried about the results, this would not be the person to hire to conduct them. Not, with his decades long reputation of fairness, unbiased and accurate polygraphy skills.

What makes the charge he was some how more "friendly to the Ramseys simply because he was picked by their lawyers if that the Boulder PD themselves (along with more depts than I can name) have used him in the past on other cases.


346 posted on 08/17/2006 12:27:44 PM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: Mr. Brightside
During the intial discussions on this case, a renowned forensic specialist held forth. This was nearly ten years ago. He was Dr Cyril Wecht. Dr Wecht used a method of actually considering an intruder into the Ramsey home.

He took the viewers step by step into that scenario. He concluded that the idea of an intruder was virtually an enormous joke. I, looked for the redoubtable Doctor once more,after my long session with FR. At 3:15pm EST I caught his image, while channel surfing CTV (Canada). I shouted out "They've got Cyril". My liberal spouse, who has much interest in the case, said "Who's Cyril"?.

The Doctor was making - from my view, a fine and dispassionate analysis. He virtually demolished teacher boy from Thailand.

The good doctor is the heavy artillery. Now where is Dr Henry Lee?.

347 posted on 08/17/2006 12:29:55 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Cagey

Ping #6


348 posted on 08/17/2006 12:31:55 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Brytani

So what, they are about as accurate as a fortune teller if you ask me. They may get lucky and get it right every now and then.


349 posted on 08/17/2006 12:36:51 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Gay State Conservative

They weren't home that evening. He may have had to wait a while until the family showed up......Something to do, mess with the computer. He was a geek ya know. ;^)


350 posted on 08/17/2006 12:41:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Peter Libra
Whect is a forensic pathologist...a physician.His opinions on things like cause of death are,obviously,worthy of serious consideration.But IMO,his opinions on who did or didn't do it mean no more than do mine....unless something like DNA is involved.
351 posted on 08/17/2006 12:46:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: spectre

I can tell you in murder investigations what is in the public record is not what is in the actual police files, coroners files or even judicial files until an arrest and actual trial takes place. Holdback evidence is a common tactic used by every law enfocement agency across the world.

Her autopsy report is public record, as they are in most states, however you'll notice the tox report is not included. I'm talking the full-blow, sample of blood, urine, stomach and intestional fluids, eye fluid, brain and spinal fluid etc that are sent for further toxocology study. It's very probably and extrememly easy to hold back information such as a particular substance injected into a victim that shows up during later tox tests but is never released to the public.

Don't be suprised if this guy is taken to trial for her murder, many bits of evidence never made public before will be introduced. Even with all the leaks in this case and "experts" who wrote books never found out about rarely are able to find out every bit of evidence or are willing to provide the information.


352 posted on 08/17/2006 12:51:57 PM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: Cecily

Does your bias have a rational basis to which you're willing to share?


353 posted on 08/17/2006 12:56:21 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Military family member

I heard the press conference. She said he deserved a presumption of innocence and that they don't arrest people until the case is almost completely investigated. She just doesn't want this guy getting off by claiming he can't get a fair trial because of publicity.


354 posted on 08/17/2006 1:03:23 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Perdogg

You know...I keep wondering why some are so determined the Ramsey's are guilty. Now, I understand.


355 posted on 08/17/2006 1:04:15 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: MotleyGirl70
LOL, that's good.


The only conclusion I've jumped to is that I wouldn't want that guy teaching my kid if I had a kid in second grade. Or any grade, for that matter.
356 posted on 08/17/2006 1:07:16 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: nyconse

"You know...I keep wondering why some are so determined the Ramsey's are guilty".

1.) The Note

2.) The Note

3.) The Note


357 posted on 08/17/2006 1:07:40 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Locomotive Breath

Caution with respect to potential pedophiles, which is not irrational. How many people have you ever known who have hired male babysitters or nannies? For a lot of parents, it is out of the question.


358 posted on 08/17/2006 1:17:05 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Brytani

Frankly, if this ever comes to trial, I think all will be horrified by what was held back and by how much "known" information was untrue or misunderstood.


359 posted on 08/17/2006 1:27:55 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Peter Libra
During the intial discussions on this case, a renowned forensic specialist held forth. This was nearly ten years ago. He was Dr Cyril Wecht. Dr Wecht used a method of actually considering an intruder into the Ramsey home.
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The Doctor was making - from my view, a fine and dispassionate analysis. He virtually demolished teacher boy from Thailand.

Wecht has been indicted on 84 counts...facing trial Oct 16

360 posted on 08/17/2006 1:32:39 PM PDT by Azzurri
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