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Rare Lincoln Letter Found in Allentown
AP ^ | July 19, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/26/2006 3:22:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) - July 19, 2006 - A University of Illinois researcher had discovered a fourth copy of a rare letter Abraham Lincoln had written by to the nation's governors in 1861.

The letter John Lupton found Tuesday in the Lehigh County Historical Society's holdings was one Lincoln wrote as part of an unsuccessful ratification process for a constitutional amendment Congress adopted during the term of his predecessor, President James Buchanan, that would have made slavery the law of the land.

The president remembered for abolishing slavery had been willing to push the amendment as "kind of a carrot to the Southern states" if that would preserve the union, said Lupton, associate director of the Papers of Abraham Lincoln Project of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.

"But even by that point, it was too late. By that time, the Southern states felt Lincoln's election was an affront," Lupton said. In fact, the letter discovered in Allentown was addressed to "His Excellency the Governor of the State of Florida," which had seceded from the union two months earlier.

Until Tuesday, only three of the letters were known to have survived. "It's a very cool document," Lupton said.

Joseph Garrera, the historical society director, said he will consult with the society's board to determine the best way to display the document and try to figure out exactly who donated the letter.


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To: Non-Sequitur; M. Espinola
Add in an R.C. Cola and a Moon-Pie

That is not a real southern breakfast. It is a fast food, breakfast on the run, substitute for a real breakfast. The kinda food(I use that term loosely here) you grab at the Pantry cause you got up late for work, cause you staid out too long coon hunt'en and Beer drink'en again. Good times remembered.
541 posted on 08/17/2006 5:43:39 PM PDT by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: rustbucket
However, Mr. Kansas will probably respond by offering us mountain oysters. If so, he wins.

Have you ever eaten Nutrea. I'm thinkin mountain oysters maybe taste better.
542 posted on 08/17/2006 5:47:20 PM PDT by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: smug
lol!

free dixie,sw

543 posted on 08/17/2006 7:32:05 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: smug
actually, BOTH are pretty OK if properly prepared. IF you crave "mountain oysters" make friends with the CAPADOR.

he has the PRIME ones in his "personal basket"!

free dixie,sw

544 posted on 08/17/2006 7:34:01 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
point out to me in WHICH post(s) i attacked you for serving in the armed services. i DARE you!

STAND You make this too easy for me, and I quote.....

let's say that i believe you to be a FRAUD/POSEUR, as you are either a DUNCE or NEVER served in the US military, as you don't KNOW the "jargon" & other information that US veterans have "inculcated into their souls" from basic training/boot camp/basic officer's course/etc.

i won't bet ANYTHING with you, as FRANKLY i think you are a DUNCE, a CREEP & a FOOL as well as a TURNCOAT/SCALAWAG.

i ONLY bet with people i TRUST & RESPECT. i must sadly tell you that this does NOT now include you, "snake in the grass".

free dixie,sw

But wait there's still more...and again I quote you STAND.....

in other words, you were NEVER a MARINE & were in addition to being "Mr. 0000", a POSEUR & FRAUD, too?????

free dixie,sw

you were mumbling something about catching me in a lie?

That I could not point out which posts of your's that you personally attacked my service to this country.....

It would seem like I just did once again.

545 posted on 08/17/2006 7:50:34 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: smug

You may have a point.

546 posted on 08/17/2006 8:03:54 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: usmcobra; All
it would SEEM that, once more, you are being EVASIVE!

at this point, i'm UNSURE what i believe about you except that i feel you are just a little TROLL, who is here ONLY to cause "problems on the forum".

head over to DU & take "Mr SPIN" with you, as you dance out the door, hand in hand.

turncoats are WELCOMED with open arms on DU. there are NUMEROUS EX-FReepers from the "DAMNyankee coven" on DU, like Walt, illbay, cvn76, #3fan & a HOST of others. (note: NO "good 'ole rebs" are ON DU. that should tell readers "something of value" about "the two camps" on the WBTS threads.)

free dixie,sw

547 posted on 08/17/2006 8:21:19 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Was that your apology for the personal attacks on my service to this country?

Was that your humility at being proved wrong once again?

My problem with you is that you won't allow reasonable debate and discussion of the civil war between the adults here, and I'm not the only one you attack either, all anyone has to do is post an opinion that you don't like on the civil war and you'll attack them.

In fact I might just prove that by inviting anyone that wishes to do so, and has never done so, to post an opinion on how the south was wrong. I guarentee that in less then ten posts between you and whoever takes my challenge, you'll go irrational on them and start attacking them personally.


548 posted on 08/17/2006 8:38:14 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: usmcobra
frankly, IF anybody deserves an APOLOGY it is EVERY FReeper from you for being EVASIVE,a nitwit, a turncoat southerner & a general PITA.

my problem with you is that you're ON freerepublic.com, period. also that you're a CRUDE, RUDE, little turkey, who seems to be a TROLL, rather than a CONSERVATIVE of any sort.

imVho, SCALAWAGS deserve ABUSE, just for breathing the same air as decent people. (NATURE is UNKIND to turncoats.)

like i said, head over to DU & take "Mr SPIN, the BIGOT" with you. you two will NOT be missed, even by the "unionists".

free dixie,sw

549 posted on 08/17/2006 8:55:16 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

You know what you can do with your irrational requests don't you?

By The way, have you noticed how your supporters have quit supporting you? I have.


550 posted on 08/17/2006 9:12:13 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: usmcobra
have you noticed that ONLY 2 members ("Mr SPIN" & i) will even answer your BILGE & ARROGANT, evasive, SILLY nonsense???

soon, it LIKELY will ONLY be "Mr SPIN, the BIGOT". (frankly, based on the question from a "nice lady" in a PM, i can't think of a GOOD reason to be bothered with either of you.)

free dixie,sw

551 posted on 08/17/2006 9:18:23 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
i can't think of a GOOD reason to be bothered with either of you.

Then don't cruise these threads looking for a debate you won't participate in.

We're here to debate, not get personally attacked for our views by you. You're only here to shut down debate.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are everything I would be if I was trying to troll this website.

552 posted on 08/18/2006 4:01:22 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: usmcobra
why GM, TROLL!

you are obviously here for only 2 reasons:

1. to cause problems/discord on FR &

2. to spread "fertilizer" & propaganda from the most extreme, lunatic fringe of REVISIONIST, LEFTIST academia.

free dixie,sw

553 posted on 08/18/2006 6:31:48 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

First off any republican that raises up the Democratic battle cry of "the south will rise again" and continually bashes President Lincoln as the worst president ever is no republican.

Secondly The confederate flag embodies everything the democrats stand for, racism, rebellion, hatred of republicans,Southern democrats, and of course the notion that if you can't debate run away.


554 posted on 08/18/2006 6:39:24 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: usmcobra
do you understand how DUMB & IGNORANT that posts like #554 make you look to NORMAL people???

surely you are a TROLL, rather than a FOOL.otoh, you COULD be BOTH.

free dixie,sw

555 posted on 08/18/2006 6:41:56 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Why don't you turn down the volume on your rhetoric a little bit, STAND?


556 posted on 08/18/2006 6:46:05 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: stand watie

If I were a troll, I'd come into this forum bashing Lincoln, claiming the south have hundreds of thousands of blacks fighting to maintain slavery, say that the southern democrats were only trying to save the country by dividing it, and tell everyone to read a book in a library that no one can find on how The Confederacy used a Pleasure boat to capture a German Submarine during the civil war.

If I were a troll, that is......


557 posted on 08/18/2006 6:47:17 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: mac_truck
why don't you STOP capitalizing my screen-name (or any portion thereof), since i asked you to, several times???

it's called showing RESPECT for AmerIndian culture & the beliefs of others.

free dixie,sw

558 posted on 08/18/2006 6:49:03 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
the OTHER possibility i see for you is that you are just a FOOL. do you prefer that FReepers think that of you??

free dixie,sw

559 posted on 08/18/2006 6:50:39 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
if you were a TROLL (and i believe that you ARE.), you would come on the forum & spread REVISIONIST LIES about the WBTS, like so much "fertilizer". you would CLAIM to be a veteran of the military & a native-born southerner too.

that way you wouldn't be too obvious as a TROLL.

free dixie,sw

560 posted on 08/18/2006 7:04:08 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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