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Rare Lincoln Letter Found in Allentown
AP ^ | July 19, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/26/2006 3:22:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) - July 19, 2006 - A University of Illinois researcher had discovered a fourth copy of a rare letter Abraham Lincoln had written by to the nation's governors in 1861.

The letter John Lupton found Tuesday in the Lehigh County Historical Society's holdings was one Lincoln wrote as part of an unsuccessful ratification process for a constitutional amendment Congress adopted during the term of his predecessor, President James Buchanan, that would have made slavery the law of the land.

The president remembered for abolishing slavery had been willing to push the amendment as "kind of a carrot to the Southern states" if that would preserve the union, said Lupton, associate director of the Papers of Abraham Lincoln Project of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.

"But even by that point, it was too late. By that time, the Southern states felt Lincoln's election was an affront," Lupton said. In fact, the letter discovered in Allentown was addressed to "His Excellency the Governor of the State of Florida," which had seceded from the union two months earlier.

Until Tuesday, only three of the letters were known to have survived. "It's a very cool document," Lupton said.

Joseph Garrera, the historical society director, said he will consult with the society's board to determine the best way to display the document and try to figure out exactly who donated the letter.


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To: usmcobra
fwiw, my picture, wearing my dress blues, IS on FR several times. check out the 2001/2005 FReeper Ball pix.

where's YOURS???

free dixie,sw

201 posted on 08/03/2006 7:35:27 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
WHEN are YOU going to post YOURS???

free dixie,swq

202 posted on 08/03/2006 7:45:17 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
STILL lol AT you and your IGNORANT, SCALAWAG/turncoat bilge & LIES.

are you REALLY stupid enough to actually believe the REVISIONIST LIES that you routinely post??? (if you are, you are to be PITIED.)

OR do you HOPE that your readers are STUPID enough to believe you??? (in that case you have NO HONOR and/or common DECENCY.)

free dixie,sw

203 posted on 08/03/2006 9:33:44 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

You're right. It is very, very difficult to tell who's doing, what. But, she has trained Billy to bark when she says so. Therefore he does all the barking. She is entirely too careful not to show her meanness. But I can see it in those eyes of hers. She just has all her monkeys trained to do her bidding for her. Hillary, sweet, Hillary, has stone-cold eyes. Dead eyes. She doesn't give a whit about anything except power, power, and more power. Billy-boy's aide did not commit suicide upon Billy's say so. My guess is that it was Hillary's say so. And she's from Arkansas. Why, if she's such a good senator was it necessary to scramble over to New York where only money matters? And they'd elect a dog to the senate if it had the money.

But, I'm sure the Clinton's have taken all their cues regarding their utterly immoral and reprehensible behavior from Lincoln. They had plenty of time to study up on it all. They are fooling the vast majority of people just like Lincoln. And when the deceit is discovered, it will be too late. Just like Lincoln did to around 40,000, many will get incarcerated or never heard from again.

But gosh, he was such a swell guy. I mean, there's monuments up the kazoo for him. He just has to be the best. Stone is always right! Right?


204 posted on 08/03/2006 10:34:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin; All
actually, "HITLERry rodham klintoon" is NOT from AR. she is from IL & was a "carpetbagger", who nearly cost "wee willie" his job as governor, because of her south-HATING attitude,FILTHY MOUTH (she tends to use the "F-word", instead of commas) & overtly Anti-semitic comments.

fwiw, Garland County & the city of HOT SPRINGS is HEAVILY Jewish. she is a KNOWN & OPEN Anti-Semite!

since her "playmate" supposedly committed suicide with a 38SPL (found by the body) & the bullet he had IN his body at autopsy was a .22LR projectile (which was in good shape!), one wonders how he did that.

i would also like to know whose naturally BLONDE HAIR that was , that was found by the pathologist in his undershorts. ("HITLERry" is a "bottle blonde". Mrs. Foster is a brunette.)

just some thoughts on a "confusing" incident. (back home in AR, this was called an "ARKANSIDE", which during the klintoon reign, were COMMONPLACE!

free dixie,sw

205 posted on 08/03/2006 2:40:12 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
WHEN (reference your #200) are you going to POST your picture???? (fwiw, YOU have only YOURSELF to blame for making yourself LOOK evasive/deceitful/SILLY, as most everyone "with time here" has SEEN/commented on my "in dress blues pictures", which ARE posted on FR.)

come clean, for once. do you HAVE such a picture in Marine uniform, YES or NO???

free dixie,sw

206 posted on 08/03/2006 2:49:40 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

WOW! Didn't know any of the details. Most especially the part about her being Illinois born, and anti-semite, to boot. Well, sounds like some folks outta be a might worried that her pretty, little face is on the scene. Think I did hear something about Hillary's nasty mouth almost costing Billy-boy his limelight govenorship. She sounds even more dangerous than I originally thought, now that I know she's an Illinois born, South Hater-just like Lincoln.

Its also hard to believe that such an obvious inconsistency in what was said to be suicide, has simply been brushed aside. I guess money can do wonders. It certainly did for Teddy-boy. And Lincoln, too...


207 posted on 08/03/2006 3:04:07 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: stand watie

You still haven't posted your picture yet, Stand.

I'll match you one for one, and if memory serves me right you are no longer in the military, therefore you have no right to wear the uniform as if you are still authorized to wear it.

Someone who had served and honored the uniform would only wear it one last time, until then I won't wear mine as you would as a prop to gain the respect of others.

Do I have to explain to you, an "Officer", that wearing the dress uniform, while you are no longer in the military is against the regulations you were charged with obeying and enforcing, and that any picture you see of me in uniform were of when I served.


208 posted on 08/03/2006 3:12:12 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
YEP!

free dixie,sw

209 posted on 08/03/2006 7:50:29 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra; All
NOW,"cobra", you HAVE just convinced me that you are NOT a US Marine, nor any other sort of veteran.

you don't KNOW that ANY veteran MAY wear their uniform FOREVER, for any purpose that is NOT a "disgrace to the uniform". a PARTY celebrating the Inauguration of the POTUS is NOT, by any definition,a DISGRACE to the uniform!

instead, i now am reasonably SURE that you are a FRAUD & a POSEUR.

the so-called "regulation you mentioned DOES NOT EXIST & NEVER HAS EXISTED! in other words you do NOT know what you're talking about, FOOL!

NOTE TO ALL: "cobra" FREQUENTLY is "talking through his hat". the HAT is seems NOT to be that of a US Marine, past or present!

until/unless he PROVES that he is entitled to the title of "veteran", i will NOT address him as "usmcobra", but just "cobra", as in VENOMOUS SNAKE (in the grass).

free dixie,sw

210 posted on 08/03/2006 8:00:28 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
lol AT you, POSEUR!

free dixie,sw

211 posted on 08/03/2006 8:12:45 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

OK STAND let's bet our collective butts on the line for it,

If I can prove I was a Marine you'll never post on another confederate thread or say anything thing about civil war or the confederacy for next five years,

and if you can prove I wasn't a Marine, I will apologize to everyone and then I will quit this board forever.

That should be fair enough for you since you will have much less to lose then I will.


212 posted on 08/03/2006 8:21:26 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
let's say that i believe you to be a FRAUD/POSEUR, as you are either a DUNCE or NEVER served in the US military, as you don't KNOW the "jargon" & other information that US veterans have "inculcated into their souls" from basic training/boot camp/basic officer's course/etc.

i won't bet ANYTHING with you, as FRANKLY i think you are a DUNCE, a CREEP & a FOOL as well as a TURNCOAT/SCALAWAG.

i ONLY bet with people i TRUST & RESPECT. i must sadly tell you that this does NOT now include you, "snake in the grass".

free dixie,sw

213 posted on 08/03/2006 9:02:06 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
You're really pulling out all the personal insults today aren't you?

And still no picture of you in uniform either.

As an officer and a gentlemen surely you would apologize if I proved I did in fact serve as a Regular Marine for eleven years wouldn't you?

After all rather then let your anonymous source take the heat you yourself have questioned my service, that was not a very smart thing to do and now you are backing away from your claims by saying you won't bet with me.

You already have agreed to do so by calling me a fraud, now you have to allow me to prove I was what I said I was, but at least let's make it fun.

I'm willing to wager everything and in return all I ask is that you wager something in return, and since you are trying to humiliate me, I have chosen something that will humiliate you and might I add your part of the wager isn't nearly as painful as you might think it is. It will give you time to reflect on why you are here and what is really meaningfull in life.

Let's have our bet as men surely that isn't too much to ask of you, unless of course for all your bluster and rantings you've realised that your anonymous source has set you up to eat crow.

214 posted on 08/03/2006 9:24:45 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: stand watie
You know the one thing I keep asking myself STAND?

If a re-enactor might go through all the motions of trying to pass themselves off as a military officer of this day and age?

Consider for a second this "Fine Marine", who by the way is as phoney as a three dollar bill with a picture of Bill and Hill on it.

Put him in butternut or Yankee blue, and I'm sure he could pass himself off a General or Colonel or at least a Major.

There are certain risks involved in pretending to be someone you aren't, first amoung them is of course exposure, for sure but then there is pretending so hard to become someone you are not that you actually believe that you are who you are pretending to be, Right STAND WATIE?

Lying to someone else is far less damaging to the soul then lying to ourselves, lying to ourselves and actually beginning to believe the lies is the first step into madness, wouldn't you agree STAND WATIE?

You've chided me for not using the proper military jargon or of being wholly ignorant of certain military customs, that somehow because I don't mix in terms such as "head", "ladderwell" or "scuttlebutt" into every post of mine that somehow this is proof that I never served in The United States Marine Corps.

Are you saying that if I don't ACT the part then I can't be a former Marine, STAND WATIE?

Isn't that the sole basis of your proof STAND WATIE?

That I don't ACT the part as you would?

215 posted on 08/04/2006 5:07:24 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
EVERY POST you utter makes you look LESS intelligent, more ILL-informed, more MEAN-spirited & HATE-filled.

in point of FACT, several pictures of me in DRESS BLUES are ON threads of FR, so that portion of your 2 posts is simply FALSE.

in other words, you CREDABILITY is SINKING fast. better grab a "life ring".

why not head over to DU & sup with the other TROLLS, turncoats & DAMNyankee apologists??? tale "Mr SPIN", the BIGOT, with you as you dance out the door.

free dixie,sw

216 posted on 08/04/2006 7:16:32 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra; All
another DUMB & evasive post from "DUH snake"!

free dixie,sw

217 posted on 08/04/2006 7:17:50 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
Then post your pic on this thread, I'm not going to go and get it for you, you are a grown man you can do it for yourself.

I'll post mine when you post yours AND NOT ONE SECOND BEFORE YOU DO.

Posting your pic on this thread will mean to me that you have agreed to my bet.

218 posted on 08/04/2006 8:00:04 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: stand watie

By the way being dumb and evasive really is your forte'....

Remember telling me once that you were no gentleman, southern or otherwise?

Well I am proving you right, you must be happy about that.


219 posted on 08/04/2006 8:39:49 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: usmcobra
well, certainly you are neither a "gentleman" NOR a "southron". rather you are a hate-FILLED SCALAWAG & TURNCOAT!

free dixie,sw

220 posted on 08/04/2006 8:47:39 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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