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Darwinian Conservatism: How Darwinian science refutes the Left’s most sacred beliefs.
The American Thinker ^ | 23 July 2006 | Jamie Glazov and Larry Arnhart

Posted on 07/23/2006 8:49:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: andysandmikesmom

I suspect they're similar in that nobody really knows what went into making either one. I suspect they're not similar in that mystery meat actually exists in some situations, as opposed to the mystery text, whose existence is...questionable ;)


361 posted on 07/23/2006 7:28:50 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
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Placemarker and link to The List-O-Links.
362 posted on 07/23/2006 7:29:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (The Enlightenment gave us individual rights, free enterprise, and the theory of evolution.)
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To: A0ri
The last time I read my highschool biology textbook on evolution, it said "in the beginning there was a cosmic explosion, caused by such and such particles because of such and such properties, because of such and such dimensional workings".

Since abiogensis is not usually discussed in Biology class, I am not surprised. The Big Bang has never been introduced in any biology text used in a public school I have ever seen. Please provide a link to the passage about the Big Bang introduced as part of TToe.

Not once did it say "God". The fact that the textbooks are silent on God's intervention is because we don't teach Religion as a factual subject in public school (that pesky 1st Amendment). As I said, that doesn't make it God-LESS, it makes it God-NUETRAL. God isn't mentioned in Archeology, Astronomy, Chemics, Physics or anywhere else His presence might have contributed to.

Do you really want to have every Creation Myth spelled out in every science class? It would take a hundred years to get out of High School!

Who is to say God did not desin Earth to look 4.5 odd billion years old? Amazing how evolution removes such theories from the picture.

That's not a "theory." You don't know what a "theory" is, do you? To posit such a guess (it doesn't even rise to "hyposthesis") tells us you don't know anything about science.

So, lets look at the tale of the tape:

You should quit while you are behind.
363 posted on 07/23/2006 7:29:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: curiosity

This is why your evolution argument is flawed,

Science invokes a natural cause and natural law element to explain evolution and design. How far must one travel back in time to reach the Biblical position of a "beginning".

*Note: Odd dimensional theories do not skip origin.*

Which beginning is it? Evolution's beginning, or Creation's? If you state Creation, then you admit intelligent design explaining a nature of the universe.


364 posted on 07/23/2006 7:30:46 PM PDT by A0ri
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To: A0ri
"The last time I read my highschool biology textbook on evolution, it said "in the beginning there was a cosmic explosion, caused by such and such particles because of such and such properties, because of such and such dimensional workings".

That is Cosmology not Evolution.

"Not once did it say "God".

Of course not. Science doesn't address the God question - theology and philosophy do.

365 posted on 07/23/2006 7:32:18 PM PDT by b_sharp (Why bother with a tagline? Even they eventually wear out! (Second Law of Taglines))
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To: A0ri; andysandmikesmom; PatrickHenry; Senator Bedfellow; b_sharp

Wel, my 363 pretty much sums and wraps it up.

I suggest we abandon thread.


366 posted on 07/23/2006 7:33:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; A0ri

I may have erred!...{My comparison to football}....Perhaps I should have suggested tag team wrestling?


367 posted on 07/23/2006 7:34:31 PM PDT by labette (Why stand ye here all the day idle?)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; A0ri
Anybody who doesn't worship a trickster, lying God.

A lying trickster God?

Are you a Christian making this judgement? I see you must have some great Bible knowledge.

Lets start with this question. How old was Adam exactly one half second after he was created?

368 posted on 07/23/2006 7:34:37 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: A0ri

It is becoming a bit difficult for me to read and respond at the same time. Quite a few variations.


369 posted on 07/23/2006 7:34:58 PM PDT by A0ri
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Ah, here we go with the old, old, tired argument, that the earth really is not old, God just designed it to look old...that is of course, like the same old tired argument, that Dinosaur bones, are actually not real in the sense that they provide evidence of such creatures that really existed...its just that God put them there to test man, or the Devil put them there to deceive man...

These are nothing but old arguments that have been around for such a long time...but it never fails, that someone brings them up..I wish they would come up with some newer and more creative and inventive stories...

I now await, someone to pop up, and tell us that Darwin recanted on his deathbed...we havent hear that old story for a while, its about due to pop up any time now...


370 posted on 07/23/2006 7:35:18 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: A0ri

Another philosophical addendum for everyone here. Is God even necessary for said universe to have taken shape?


371 posted on 07/23/2006 7:40:27 PM PDT by A0ri
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To: labette

"I may have erred!..."

True.


372 posted on 07/23/2006 7:42:51 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"Translation: Creationists can't stand the heat. "

You got that right...There's this place...It's hot as Hell!..and we're doin' our best to stay away from there!

373 posted on 07/23/2006 7:43:17 PM PDT by labette (Why stand ye here all the day idle?)
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To: freedumb2003

And miss all the philosophizing? :)


374 posted on 07/23/2006 7:43:46 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Except why nobody cares about what your alleged *academic family* thinks.

He's a creationist. He gets to make up anything he wants...

375 posted on 07/23/2006 7:44:31 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: andysandmikesmom
"I now await, someone to pop up, and tell us that Darwin recanted on his deathbed...we havent hear that old story for a while, its about due to pop up any time now..."

FLASH!!! THIS JUST IN!!!

Reports are coming out of Great Britain that new and previously unseen documents reputed to be the diary of the attending physician present at the death of famed Biologist Charles Darwin, remembered for his Theory of the Evolution of Species, recanted his entire life's work in the presence of a priest he summoned to be at his side while dying. According to the physician Darwin said "it was all a joke you see, me and my mates was all out at the local pub downing a pint or two and I says, hey! I'll bet you all that I can turn the entire scientific world on its ear with one book! What am I bid to make good on me bet? And when my friend Andy says 'I'll bet you a full dish o' me mum's Yorkshire Pudding,' it was just too much to pass up. His mum made the finest in all England you see. . . ."

Now we know the truth!
376 posted on 07/23/2006 7:44:40 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: Old Landmarks
"A lying trickster God?"

Yes. Anybody who worships a God that will make a 6,000 year old universe look 15 billion years old is worshiping a lying, trickster God.
377 posted on 07/23/2006 7:45:19 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: labette
"You got that right..."

I know, that's why I said that creationists can't take the heat. Intellectual scrutiny is too much for them.
378 posted on 07/23/2006 7:47:15 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

*Yet they fail to respond.*


379 posted on 07/23/2006 7:49:10 PM PDT by A0ri
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To: balrog666
and my father with NASA. If they "think" as well as you do, they probably swept the floors.

Hey, there's some mighty big floors at NASA. Somebody's got to sweep & mop 'em.

380 posted on 07/23/2006 7:49:42 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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