[proudofthesouth]

This has become a pet peeve of mine lately. Maybe I'm just being old fashioned......

[martin_fierro]

This really needs to be in Breaking News.

[Cyclopean Squid]

Who knows. Doesn't "AND" used with numbers suggest that there is a decimal point? As in One Hundred and Eighty-Six = 100.86?

[mtbopfuyn]

Huh? In the 60's and 70's we said "and".

[dakine]

Go for a walk...a long walk...

[capt. norm]

To top it off, we also have the logical operator "and".

The old line "2 and 2 is 4" is incorrect if the "and" is a logical operator.

[MaryFromMichigan]

Keyword: SUBLIMEMINUTAE
Love it!

[CarrotAndStick]

As far as I know, it is unsafe to write 'and' on cheques, in order to prevent someone from modifying the 'and' into a 'thousand'.



Otherwise, I didn't think it was wrong to use the 'and'.

[Professional Engineer]

You might be old fashioned, but you are also correct.

BTW, the number between +1 and -1 is not OH.

[Tijeras_Slim]

"Four Score and Seven Years Ago..."


See, it's all a Yankee plot from the War of Northern Aggression.

[wizr]

I remember, waaay back in the 20th century, the ooold timers spoke of "back in ought six" for 1906. Thought that was a wonderful way to refer to the preteen years.

'Course, we're way too sophisticated to use that term now.

[1066AD]

That's english english.

[jigsaw]

When did this change?

June, twenty and four, nineteen hundred and seventy-three.

[ml/nj]

Considering that it's a regular part of German (vier und zwanzig = 24) and that English and German seem to have a common origin, I would guess a long time.

Sing a song of sixpence a pocket full of rye,
Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie.
When the pie was opened the birds began to sing,
Oh wasn't that a dainty dish to set before the king?
The king was in his counting house counting out his money,
The queen was in the parlour eating bread and honey
The maid was in the garden hanging out the clothes,
When down came a blackbird and pecked off her nose!

ML/NJ

[ThomasThomas]

I think it was calligraphers trying to make a few extra bucks on wedding indentations. You also see it in those real fancy neighborhoods where they spell the address with letters instead of numbers. You get money for each letter.

When the media dose it.. well, like you want them to talk AND think at the same time.

[sully777]

Although I find humor in your vanity thread, I must admit that Yankees are not aware that "You all" when addressing a group is proper grammar while using "Y'all" when addressing an individual is merely an uneducated condescension. Further, the term "I reckon" and "I declare" show good breading while "Youz gonna" and "Yeah, whatareyougunnadoboutdat?" show bad breading.

I once lived north of the MD line, deep in the heart of Joisey.

[MozarkDawg]

Not to be nit-picky, but a personal pet peeve that I have is the misspelling of *a lot* when referring to a good quantity, many -- it's two words, not one.

[BruceysMom]

It seems as if I've spent forever taking Business English, even though it was only two terms. It is improper to use "and" in a number unless it signifies a decimal point. Just like when we were in school in the 60s and 70s.

[supercat]

I think the "and" when speaking is syntactically more of an extra syllable for pronunciation than a conjunction. The number "110" should not (at least IMHO) be prounced "wun-hun-dreh-dten". Pronouncing the "d" on hundred cleanly would require adding an extra syllable; I think "wun-hun-dreh-dn-ten" probably flows better than "Wun-hun-dreh-de-ten". My guess would be that the "and" is a back formation from the pronunciation.

[nhoward14]

Que? No habla ingles. En espanol por favor. Gracias!