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Call adds mystery to lacrosse case (DukeLax)
News and Observer ^ | July 12, 2006 | Joseph Neff

Posted on 07/12/2006 1:52:14 AM PDT by abb

Phone use spans time of team party

In the middle of a Duke lacrosse party where a dancer said she was gang-raped for 30 minutes, a call was placed from her cell phone to a Durham escort service.

The 12:26 a.m. call to the service, Centerfold, lasted one minute, according to a copy of her cell phone bill reviewed by The News & Observer. It is unclear whether the call was a request for another job, a cry for help or something else, or even whether the accuser made the call herself.

But the accuser's phone records add some details to the chronology of the March 13 party, a drunken spring break bash that spawned a national controversy.

Neither prosecutors nor defense lawyers would discuss the phone records Tuesday. Neither the accuser nor a second dancer at the party could be reached, nor could representatives of Centerfold. Police Chief Steve Chalmers was out of town; his spokeswoman said he would not discuss the case.

Three players have been charged with first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping: Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J.; Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md. Lawyers for the players have proclaimed their clients' innocence and said no rape or sex occurred at the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.

District Attorney Mike Nifong, whose handling of the case has undergone national scrutiny, has been adamant that the woman was raped at the party. Nifong has not given a precise timeline of when he thinks an assault occurred.

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To: Jezebelle

My nephew does have extreme opinions, but he launched his career with an extreme case that got international attention.

He doesn't say prosecutors routinely frame innocent people (although they did with his client). What he does say is that each of the tactics used by Niphong, taken in isolation, are routinely used.


681 posted on 07/14/2006 9:20:47 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138

Well, that's a different claim altogether, and one I would agree with. But if his position is that such tactics as Nifong uses are prevalent, I'd also disagree with that. The only thing Nifong has done that I consider common is the failing to turn over discovery in a timely manner and the defense having to pull teeth to get it and uncover things the DA wants to hide - common, but not prevalent. The line-up and IDs, the refusal to look at exculpatory evidence, the public statements and other things Nifong has done are most assuredly NOT common and certainly not prevalent.


682 posted on 07/14/2006 9:32:40 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

This member of the DPD would make a great interview:

In addition, the Durham Police Department implemented a new
fifth patrol district in February. Headed by Captain Terry Mangum,
the Central Police District will cover Downtown Durham,
Duke East Campus, the Ninth Street District and Erwin Square.

Last updated 2/27/04

http://www.durham-nc.com/stats/news_story_ideas/stories/dis_personify050101.php

3. As for the long-term, this spring Duke worked with the City of Durham
to obtain special legislation in the N.C. General Assembly. It authorizes
the city to contract with Duke to give Duke police officers legal authority
to patrol off-campus. The Durham Police Department attorney is currently
drafting an agreement which will give university police officers an expanded
role in the areas adjacent to East Campus We have begun the process
to recruit five officers (the equivalent of a police car) to assume this responsibility.
They will probably start around the first of the year, since they must complete
the appropriate training required of police officers.

http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2003/08/communityletters0827.html

It's coming eight months later than planned, but on Wednesday Duke University
police officers will at last begin patrolling neighborhoods and commercial areas
adjacent to the East Campus. This $300,000-a-year project in cooperation with
the Durham Police Department (similar to an existing arrangment with the N.C.
Central University police), bids to become another excellent example
of town-gown cooperation.

http://www.community.duke.edu/news/articles/rescue_aug13_2004.htm

Duke University Police will expand patrols to include city streets.
Starting next week campus police will focus on neighborhoods that border east campus.
Some people who live in those areas said it's a positive step.
Sally Spears knows what to expect when Duke students return to campus.
"They're out here one or two in the morning, tripping down the street, or going
back," she said. "The students who live in the neighborhood all have loud music
going and if it's the kind of weather where you can have the windows open
then you can hear all the music."

http://rdu.news14.com/content/top_stories/?ArID=53304&RegionCookie=37

Isn't it odd that on the night in question, Durham PD filled in for Duke, it being Spring break,
one month after the University gained title to the house?


683 posted on 07/14/2006 9:42:23 PM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: xoxoxox

I don't think it's all that odd, and Shelton didn't know where the case would lead when he responded to the call, some Duke PD were on scene at DUMC, and nobody with DPD forced the lax guys to throw a party and hire strippers, so I just don't see a conspiracy there. I also don't see anything especially odd, for the same reason, about Duke acquiring title to the lax house on Buchanan a month earlier, because nobody at Duke nor DPD caused or precipitated the party, the hiring of strippers, or whom all showed up that night.

Is Terry Mangum related to Crystal? Now, that might explain some things for sure, but I understand and have seen evidence that Mangum is a common name in the region, and not all Mangums are black.


684 posted on 07/14/2006 10:01:24 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

Kim seemed quite anxious to get the DPD
involved- made bogus 911 call- disappointed
Angel at Kroger wasn't a cop. She could have
saved everybody a lot of trouble if she just took
Precious to her house on Albany St., which
was much closer anyways.

Finnerty's father mentioned a "short list"
two days before Easter. Denied a few times
it was about money. The ID was random.

Half the people in Durham figured out the
bogus 911 caller was a 'dancer', while DPD
was still begging for information or the papers
figured it out. Maybe the City Manager can
become the new Police Chief.


685 posted on 07/14/2006 10:32:57 PM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: xoxoxox

DPD knew Kim Roberts made the call very early on.

Kim's written statement is dated 3/22 and she was certainly known about well before she came in and wrote the statement. In the statement she says she was the caller.

In fact, Nifong is caught lying about this by Dan Abrams. Nifong says on 3/31 to Dan that no one has come forward to say they made the call.


686 posted on 07/14/2006 11:16:33 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Ken H

I believe that the ho's of Durham County all go to the surrounding counties to ply their trade, due to the fine work of the local law enforcement and prosecutors office...................................NOT!!!!!!!!!


687 posted on 07/15/2006 3:57:56 AM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: xoxoxox


"Isn't it odd that on the night in question, Durham PD filled in for Duke, it being Spring break,
one month after the University gained title to the house? "

I've wondered if the Univ. administration wanted to get rid of all the off-campus housing, or all such frats/sports houses, and thought a record of violations would permit them to "respond" to these by banning the frats/off-campus housing.

So maybe complaints to the police were encouraged (as by the neighbor at the Buchanan house), with the promise to the locals that this would help the agenda of ending the off-campus housing (of which the Admin. took a dim view?)
And/or maybe someone wanted to use that area for a development project, and had to get rid of the student housing?

At any rate, the Duke Univ. police ticketing the students would not be nearly as effective for this agenda as having the regular DPD ticket and compile a record against them.


688 posted on 07/15/2006 4:46:21 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: xoxoxox
disappointed Angel at Kroger wasn't a cop.

I too noticed in Kim's written statement that she went to Kroger's looking for an "off duty" cop. I haven't been able to come up with an acceptable reason why. I don't know Durham, but I've heard there was a police station closer to the Buchanan house than the Kroger's. If she wanted a cop why didn't she go there instead of Kroger's.

That comment in her statement is still a mystery to me.

689 posted on 07/15/2006 5:26:12 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill; xoxoxox

Lil' Kim didn't want a run in with the cops because of her probation violations.

Others have argued otherwise, but I still find it very odd that the DPD didn't run a check on her or even ask for an ID when they picked up the AV. Perhaps they were familiar with her, too.


690 posted on 07/15/2006 5:40:27 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Ken H

Ken, you have discovered a gold mine. I've done some research this morning and here's what I've found. Now I'm not the best at this - some other freepers can prolly do better than me.

Anyway here's the site - http://sbi2.jus.state.nc.us/crp/public/Default.htm

In 2005, for North Carolina, there were 1,465 arrests statewide for Prostitution and Commercial Vice. The state's population for 2005 is estimated @ 8,683,42. That's one arrest per 5,927 persons.

There were 1,800 arrests for Sex Offenses statewide for the same year. That's a ratio of one arrest per 4,824 persons.

In Durham County, there were NO ARRESTS in 2005 for Prostitution and Commercial Vice. There were nine arrests in 2004.

There were 9 arrests in Durham County for Sex Offenses in 2005, none in 2004.

Durham County's 2005 population is 242,582. That makes the ratio ONE ARREST PER 26,953 PERSONS!!

Oh, I almost forgot. ALL the arrests in 2004 and 2005 were made by the DURHAM COUNTY SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT. None were made by the Durham PD.

What say y'all?


691 posted on 07/15/2006 5:46:26 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-752801.html

With things 'shipshape,' Chalmers' time is coming





By BriAnne Dopart and Gregory Phillips : The Herald-Sun
news@heraldsun.com
Jul 14, 2006 : 11:08 pm ET

DURHAM -- Ever since he was named chief of the Durham Police Department in 2003, Steve Chalmers has been talking about retiring.

So word that he plans to step aside in December 2007 seems non-news to him and to people who know him well, Chalmers said Friday.

The time is right to retire, he said.

"Right now, everything is in shipshape, and the command team is in place," Chalmers said.


(snip)


City Manager Patrick Baker said Chalmers told him last year he'd be stepping down "probably in another two or three years." Baker said the two had discussions in recent months about a more specific date.

"Those have been his plans, and he's been pretty consistent about that," Baker said. "He's talked about it so much, he thought it was common knowledge."


(snip)

City councilman Eugene Brown agreed that the search needs to be top priority for Baker.

"The city manager three-and-a-half years ago botched the entire process," Brown said, referring to the two men Conner hired before Chalmers got the job.

Conner originally hired George Watkins, who resigned weeks after taking the position because of allegations of domestic violence. Watkins' replacement, Doug Scott, was named chief but then backed out.

"We really were the laughing stock of the state," Brown said.

(snip)

Brown said the chief's low profile surprised him.

But Chalmers said the media was the source of the criticism.

"The people I've come in contact with have really commended me for not getting involved in the media," he said.



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Shipshape??? I am getting dizzy from the spin.

"He's talked about it so much, he thought it was common knowledge." Who did he talk to? He's been MIA.

"We really were the laughing stock of the state,"

Congratulations. Now Durham is the "laughing stock" of the country.


692 posted on 07/15/2006 5:50:47 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief

What it is, is the Pimp/Prostitution/Commercial Sex business operation is taking too much of his time. He can't run those and be Police Chief at the same time. Why, the poor thing must be run ragged...


693 posted on 07/15/2006 5:55:10 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

Gotta keep those crime stats down one way or another. ;)


694 posted on 07/15/2006 6:00:56 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: xoxoxox
Re: Durham police.

WRAL.com has an article today (Sat.) about an investigation of police there working on "off duty" jobs while they are STILL ON THE CLOCK in the police dept.

695 posted on 07/15/2006 6:08:03 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: CondorFlight
"And/or maybe someone wanted to use that area for a development project, and had to get rid of the student housing?"

You mean the local leaders may have wanted to build a new low-cost housing to further launder money from the sex industry and other criminal activities?

This is a key undiscussed element in Durham politics.

696 posted on 07/15/2006 6:35:50 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: abb
"What say y'all?"

I say that Durham County must be pure as the driven snow! LOL! I can sum up Durham County in three words:

Corruption! Corruption! Corruption!


697 posted on 07/15/2006 6:39:13 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: darbymcgill

Why didn't she just wait at 610 for the cop that she called?


698 posted on 07/15/2006 6:40:14 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: xoxoxox

Interesting home page.


699 posted on 07/15/2006 7:01:19 AM PDT by I want to know
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To: TommyDale

Activity on Melanie's Blog, hehe...

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/editor/index.php?blog=19&c=1&page=1&more=1&title=duke_case_coverage_1&tb=1&pb=1&disp=single


700 posted on 07/15/2006 7:25:33 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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