Posted on 07/10/2006 11:32:19 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle
xskids and i were eating dinner at a chilis a month or so ago. we were waited on by a transgendered individual in some transitional phase... as soon as he/she/it walked away with our order, i said to xskids DO NOT SAY A WORD, WE WILL DISCUSS THIS IN THE CAR....
Some might think the problem is someone else has shown him some other uses already that have caused him this difficulty.
More idiocy from the Sheeple's Republic of Broward, aka the GAYEST county in Florida (see Wilton Manors, Las Olas, Hollywood Beach).
I hope you're not sending your kids to public school in this f-cked up county.
He will never get a period if he has male genitals.
Gabor
It sounds abusive to me too. But I'm sure legal guidelines for this are incredibly vague and rely largely on the advice of physicians re individual cases. And of course, we may yet find some clear physiological abnormality that accounts for some of these cases, just as a few decades ago we didn't have the ability to inventory chromosomes to pin point that sort of abnormality. But with a young child who is anatomically and chromosomally normal, it seems to me it would always be better to encourage formal identification with the apparent gender, and just be very flexible about the child's behavior. Even giving the benefit of the doubt that there might be physiological abnormality that we just can't identify yet, it's still going to be better in most cases for the child/adult to choose the roles s/he wants in life without surgery and/or hormonal interventions that just result in another form of being neither a normal male nor a normal female.
I had a passing acquaintance (she was mainly of friend of some friends of mine) with a woman who had been born an anatomical hermaphrodite and surgically made as female as possible. She made the right choice for her (I'm not sure what sort of chromosomes she had), but with the hell she went through growing up, it's a wonder she didn't become a serial killer. Her parents were evangelical Christians of some sort, and the father was apparently totally domineering in the home. He wanted a son and that was that; the mother either didn't have or wasn't free to express an opinion different from her husband's. Bottom line was that through middle school this poor child had to leave home dressed as a boy, but was met nearby by a sympathetic school counselor who let her change clothes before arriving at school. She was later put in foster care (IIRC because the father was physically abusive), and lived as a girl. She had the surgery somewhere along the line, and finally started college in her early 40s. Last I heard she was in law school. I don't know what became of her, but she's an example of why there need to be some clear legal standards about this sort of thing.
I'm not a rocket scientist but it seems like this would show up more post puberty and into early adult life when sexuality becomes more demanding on the mind and body. 5-6 years old though? Yea even kids will dress up like mom and dad but I find it hard to believe a kid that young would be effected so radically.
Sounds to me like the kid has a problem. And there do seem to be kids who are simply born with such problems: from the earliest age, they simply believe that they are and should be the other gender, and there's nothing anybody can do to convince them otherwise.
All of you with zero compassion ought to be glad you don't have a kid with a similar problem.
If you think things are confused now, just wait till Mr. Woody wakes up!
There's legit reasoning for questioning. Most LCSW's and Psychologist etc are fine dedicated professionals. But there are exceptions and those exceptions have an agenda some of which are of the predatory or activist mode. To some of us who have raised our kids and have grandkids we are skeptical. BTW I speak as one who knew kids of about every physical and mental disorder you could name. I don't doubt the existence of such disorder especially later in their childhood. I question this very early age of onset on highly impressionable time in his life.
Theres no doubt about that. Odds are the biggest problem is the mother with the counseling degree. There was another story posted on this a few weeks ago. When spoken to by a reporter, the child goes into a long dissertation about wanting to hammer his penis and wishing he had a vagina. Hes all up to date on anatomically correct language no five year old ever heard of.
The most likely disorder in this family is some bazaar version of Munchausen by a lunatic mother wishing she had another daughter.
Mommy also seemed to thing that getting reporters involved was the thing to do. It would be interesting to hear her explain just how having this boy's apparent problem splashed all over newspapers and the internet will help.
It would be real interesting to spend some time with the kid to see if all these apparent traits are real, and whether he gets off script when mom isn't around, It would also be fun to talk with mom to see just how much she's enjoying all this.
>>I'm using WebTV so that's not the problem. If you can see the following URLs I guess you could cut & paste them into your browser, right?<<
well, yes, I guess I could....
I am, instead, however, gonna just trust you about the links... :)
The question should be, what can be done for him? What can be done to help him figure out why he believes he's a girl and how to change his mis-perception.
"Buttt Mommmmm, I don't want to be a girl any more!"
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