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1 posted on 06/28/2006 9:00:57 PM PDT by Huntress
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What quality of life would the cat have after surgery?

One of my cats required surgery to remove a swallowed thread that had wrapped around his tongue and lodged in his gut [Cat people, be very careful with thread, string, and yard. You cannot be too cautious.]. That was years ago, and Wilbur is fine, and now 10 years old. The surgery was not cheap. Do I regret it? No.

Another cat became diabetic. For years, I gave him insulin twice daily, which meant I had to be there to give him an injection twice daily, and routinely use the same kind of glucometer human diabetics use. People thought I was crazy, but I kept him going this way for nearly 3 years, then managed his condition with a drastic diet change. [Cat people, DRY FOOD IS NOT FOR CATS! All dry food contains higher levels of carbohydrates than felines can properly handle. Cats are obligate carnivores--dry cat food leads to diabetes in felines. www.felinediabetes.com (they aren't selling anything!).] The meat-based diet isn't cheap either, but Pyewackett has slimmed down and bounces again. He's 13. Do I regret paying for these things? No.

In both cases, the cats have excellent quality of life--they play, they sleep, they have several windows to watch tasty birds walk across porch roofs. I would not keep an animal alive for my sake alone--in the past year I euthanized one aging cat who was fading before my eyes.

Ask your vet if you can work out a payment plan in advance.


80 posted on 06/28/2006 9:57:08 PM PDT by RSteyn
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Tough call. I am sorry for you and Norman. My family (wife and two daughters) have two cats- Tommy (8) and Romeo (12).

Whenever I am faced with a dilema with all things being equal and I can't seem to find the rationale to decide one way or the other, I flip a coin and let the coin decide for me. Just one flip, though. No best two out of three or anything like that. If I don't like the result of the coin toss, I go with the other choice, since that is the direction I really wanted to go in the first place.

As for our cats, if they needed my help and I could afford it, I would help them. I can always make more money and I don't care for the prospect of losing something my family and I truly hold dear.

Best wishes for you and Norman.


85 posted on 06/28/2006 10:05:03 PM PDT by new cruelty
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Been there ... done that ... my buddy had bone cancer ... we went for the surgery ... it was successful in saving his life however 4 months later it was in his lungs and his organs on the x-ray were "marbalized" a huge tumor.

Would I do it again?

YES! We knew his personality and knew he would handle the outcome well. We were right!

He loved us and we loved him. We just had alittle more time together and babied him. This too was a couple grand ... it was either that or he would die.

Unfortunately the blood work lied and so did the ultra sound ... the cancer had traveled bit wasn't showing up yet so that is why we proceeded with the surgery.

87 posted on 06/28/2006 10:10:49 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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I spent well over a thousand dollars trying to save my bird dog Josephine. I don't regret the lost money at all.


103 posted on 06/28/2006 10:43:16 PM PDT by bad company (The fight will not be the way you want it to be. The fight will be the way it is.)
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God Bless you, God Bless your cat. If the cat passes away, it will be out of it's pain, and you'll see it when you pass. Geez, what $1800 could do for a few kids that might need some food, clothing etc. I guess I'm a complete nutcase because to me it looks like the world is upside down!!! And no, I'm not an animal hater, I had my beloved Georgie 8 years, a beautiful cat, but I'd never spend that kind of money on an animal. Save it and give some kids a surprise visit with food and clothes or whatever! Your cat will be smiling down on you.


107 posted on 06/28/2006 10:55:57 PM PDT by tinacart ((I still hate Hitlery!))
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You didn't say what the problem was. If it's a GI obstruction, there are numerous things that can be tried that can be successful. It depends on the condition of Norman. If kidney function is severely compromised already, you may not have time to try anything else. if the obstruction has not caused any major problems yet, then you should try some alternatives to see if they work. If it is an obstruction, I would suggest getting him on antibiotics (something easy on kidney & liver function) now even if the blood tests do not show signs of an infection yet.


109 posted on 06/28/2006 10:59:04 PM PDT by RouxStir (No islam, know peace.)
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I have and love cats. Let kitty go.

Donate a portion or all of the money to a favorite charity.

In a while you will find a new kitty.


135 posted on 06/29/2006 4:27:53 AM PDT by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: All; CAluvdubya; Wombat101; Pukin Dog; az wildkitten; LdSentinal; Doctor Raoul; Darkwolf377; ...

Thanks for all of your kind words and advice posted on this thread.

Norman had a perineal urethrostomy today, and the vet reports that he came through it very well. The blockage was very high in his urinary tract, and the vet feared the he might have to go in via the bladder. Fortunately, this was not necessary. Norman's prognosis is good, as he is relatively young (six) and otherwise healthy.

As for the money issue, I am working out payments with the vet, and I hope that less extensive surgery means lower payments. In any case, I have decided that it is worth it. I can always earn more money, but Norman and his companionship are unique.


137 posted on 06/29/2006 4:50:15 PM PDT by Huntress (Possession really is nine tenths of the law.)
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I have a 24-yo cat.

I spend $100 a month on her meds and around $1200 a year for doctor visits.

I would pay triple that if I had to.

BUT. I don't have kids. Thank God I don't have to choose between my cat and my kids.


143 posted on 06/29/2006 5:24:51 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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consider the facts....it's a cat.


144 posted on 06/29/2006 5:25:49 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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I spent $800.00 on a stray I found that had been hit by a car. I took him home, nursed him back to health, had myself a new pet, until the first lightening storm when he jumped the fence in fright never to be seen again.

If I had it to do over again, I would. Grit your teeth and pay for the surgery. Norman is a member of your family, he would do it for you if your situation were switched.


157 posted on 06/29/2006 10:05:57 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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My parents and many of my friends think I'm out of my mind for even considering spending this much money on a cat. What would you do if you were me?

Only you can make such a decision but..., as much as we might love our pets, there comes a time when they must be dispatched. Having had to personally do so (personally..., not through a vet...), you never forget them but hope that you have done the right thing!

It is as close to playing God as we shall ever become...

158 posted on 06/29/2006 10:13:23 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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I once spent over $1000 on emergency surgery for my beloved kitty, Crystal. I barely had the money and it definitely hurt financially. I certainly did get strange looks, and one friend even exclaimed in shock, "You spent $1000 on a cat!?". But I knew I did the right thing. She was only 2 at the time, and I cherished her dearly until she died of cancer last year at 15. I say go for it.


165 posted on 06/30/2006 12:06:16 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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If you can be assured that the cat will be "cured", then that may help in this difficult decision. However, if this is just a stop-gap measure, then let him go. Just, my way of thinking, and I have two cats that I love dearly.


166 posted on 06/30/2006 12:15:18 PM PDT by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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I agree...get a second opinion.

Our 4 year old dog collapsed one day and was very sick. He was diagnosed by our vet with an autoimmune disease (AIHA.) We were told if he didn't have a transfusion right away, he'd die.

The cost of the treatment was going to be $2,000 to start and probably much more after that...and we just didn't have it, so we brought him home to die. He didn't seem to be in any pain, just extremely weak, so we just nursed him over the next couple of weeks.

The dog is 9 years old now, and doing just fine. You just never know.


171 posted on 06/30/2006 12:36:40 PM PDT by dawn53
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What is the problem with the cat? Only 6 years! So young. It would depend on what the problem is ... sometimes surgery will only buy time. If it buys a cure I would try to save the cat.

Good luck to you and little Norman.


172 posted on 06/30/2006 12:38:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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My 11 year old cat, Allie, came down with hyperthyroid and the cost for treatment was about $1,500. I decided to spend the money because she would have surely died. Her metabolism was revved so high that she was starving to death, even though she ate voraciously. She burned the calories so fast, she couldn't get enough. Her heart rate was so fast the doctor could not measure it.

Allie is now 17 and had to have x-rays done recently. After looking at the x-rays, the vet told me that she has the body of a 10 year old, and will most likely live for several more years.

In my case, it was well worth it. Also, after she recupterated, she and I became closer. It was as if she sensed that I had saved her. I've not had a moment's regret.


173 posted on 06/30/2006 12:54:16 PM PDT by alnick
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Our magnificent cat, Doddsie, a Maine Coon, age 8 and healthy every day of his life, suddenly developed congestive heart disease. Three days later, he passed away at Tufts University Veterinary Medicine Center. What with the emergency in-patient care at a local veterinary clinic, and his admission to Tufts, the bill came to over $2,400. And this even though we asked for no extraordinary measures to be taken, just that he be treated according to the best regimin, and made as comfortable as possible. We lost him anyway. It broke our hearts; but he is still with us, in our hearts and thoughts, over two years later.

I don't think we would do anything different, were the same circumstances repeated. And for us $2,400 is a pretty big chunk of change.

What is Norman's prognosis, should he receive the surgery?

You and Norman are in my prayers.

176 posted on 06/30/2006 2:04:08 PM PDT by betty boop (The universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. -J.B.S. Haldane)
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I would get the advice of another Vet. It is a hard choice to make. I have had to put one or two pets down. If you have to do it, I have found it better to go into the room where they do it and pet or hold it while it is done. It hurts when you do that, but it gives you better closure.


177 posted on 06/30/2006 2:05:01 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (I SHOT DOWN TWA 800 AND FR IS CLOSING IN ON ME)
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If you can afford it, then pay the extravagant price for the kitty, if you can not, let it try to get by without the surgery and know you did your reasonable best.
If the kitty were living in the world and not your home it would have already died.
You've probably already given the cat a good life considering what has happened, so no matter which way you go, you are going to be OK.

Don't spend the money unless you have it to spare.
182 posted on 06/30/2006 2:55:01 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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