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Barrier to Mac Adoption Finally Broken?
MacNewsWorld - Mac Intelligence for the Enterprise ^ | 06/21/06 5:00 AM PT | By Reid Goldsborough

Posted on 06/22/2006 1:20:41 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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How to triple-boot Mac OS X, Linux, and Windows XP on an Apple Mac

1 posted on 06/22/2006 1:20:46 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: 1234; 6SJ7; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; anonymous_user; ...
Apple, Microsoft, & Linux... Oh, My... PING!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 06/22/2006 1:22:26 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker
Only Ipod is making it for this business.

I think Mac won't make it long term with their computers.
3 posted on 06/22/2006 1:26:38 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Swordmaker

Triple boot XP, OSX, and Linux on an PC. It can be done =]


4 posted on 06/22/2006 1:27:55 AM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: Crazieman

Not legally - and not after Apple puts in some additional barriers with 10.5.

10.4 is the last system that will boot on an unmodified PC.


5 posted on 06/22/2006 1:32:57 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Swordmaker
OS X is to Vista as the 787 Dreamliner is to the A380.

-ccm

6 posted on 06/22/2006 1:36:03 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: A CA Guy
Only Ipod is making it for this business.

The iPod and iTunes accounts for only about 1/3rd of Apple's revenue... the rest comes from its computers. It is doing quite well.

7 posted on 06/22/2006 2:05:48 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: A CA Guy
Check out this article:

Mac demand may offset iPod sales

Some salient quotes:

""UBS analyst Ben Reitzes today predicted sequentially lower iPod sales for Apple in the third quarter of this year, but expects new iPods next quarter and noted that MacBook demand is solid. 'To reflect checks that indicate more interest for new MacBooks and solid education buying, we are raising our 3Q06 estimate for Mac units to 1.32 million units (was 1.24 million) and our FY06 unit estimate to 5.1 million (was 5.0 million),' Reitzes wrote in a research note obtained by MacNN. 'We now estimate iPod unit sales of 7.8 million for 3Q06 (was 8.4 million) reflecting year over year growth of 27 percent (-8 percent quarter over quarter) and FY06 unit sales of 39.8 million (was 40.9 million).' UBS is maintaining a 'buy' rating for Apple shares with a price target of $90, hovering above its peers due to faster growth and higher margins," MacNN reports . . .

. . . For every 75,000 Macs sold, Apple earns $100 million in revenue (not including attach rates for software, service, and peripherals), while every 500,000 iPods equates to approximately $100 million in revenue, according to the firm. . . .

"UBS has noted a shift in consumer interest toward Macs and away from iPod display counters at Apple retail locations. Mac displays appear 'jammed' with customers, while iPod displays are less frequented than previous quarters, according to the company," MacNN reports. 'While we believe increased focus on Macs should drive solid near term results, we also believe increased interest in Macs should lead to longer term PC market share gains, which we believe can provide significant top line benefits and earnings power," Reitzes added."


8 posted on 06/22/2006 2:13:10 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker

I put SUSE 10 Linux (with the KDE interface) on my wife's Internet machine and I'm impressed. The big problem with Linux isn't the OS itself, at least in this version, but the lack of third-party support. If Photoshop -- and a bunch of drivers -- came in Linux, I'd drop Windows entirely.


9 posted on 06/22/2006 4:21:01 AM PDT by Grut
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SM, this guy is a disrupter. He usually adds negativity to the threads he visits, and rarely has anything but criticisms. He is sure he knows more than us, so ignore him. He just likes the attention!

OTOH, I just bought an Intel Mac mini, but have not set up the windoze crap yet. Several of the travel agency sites require the use of windoze, so I decided it was the best way to skin the cat. I just hate the idea of gving any credence to Gates and company, when I already use the best system on the market.

I just want to make sure I don't need an IT department added, to keep up with the garbage that windoze will bring!

10 posted on 06/22/2006 4:37:53 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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I think Mac won't make it long term with their computers.

Yeah, they've only been around 20 years, and that's not nearly long enough to establish any kind of reputation or solid base. Too bad they couldn't have gotten a more solid footing in the personal computer market like, umm, IBM.

11 posted on 06/22/2006 4:42:45 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Truth is the new lie.)
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10.4 is the last system that will boot on an unmodified PC.

Until Apple chooses to unbundle the OS. The industry betting is 3 to 1 that Apple will sell OSX for PCs by the end of next year.

12 posted on 06/22/2006 4:52:28 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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"The industry betting is 3 to 1 that Apple will sell OSX for PCs by the end of next year."

Proof, please?

That's bunk. Apple will never unbundle it's operating system again. They tried it once, and it nearly destroyed them. Apple hardware sales help pay for Mac OS development.
13 posted on 06/22/2006 6:26:00 AM PDT by DesScorp
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Only Ipod is making it for this business. I think Mac won't make it long term with their computers.

How many times have we heard that prediction over the decades? Currently, Wall Street says Apple's iPod business is slowing down, and their Mac business is picking up. The Mac business is profitable, healthy and growing.

Even the most diehard Microsoft customers are getting tired of advice like "a full reformat is good for the computer every two years anyway..." That is why the Apple Stores are full of Windows users buying their first Macs. If you want a computer that just works, get a Mac.

14 posted on 06/22/2006 7:31:55 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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Apple has been trying unsuccessfully for years to persuade users of Windows PCs to switch to more user-friendly and reliable -- though more pricey -- Macs.

Why is this myth still being preached??? Comparing features and such, you find that Apple prices are comparable to PC prices in most categories - ie. The High-end professional desktop from most PC manufacturers are very close to the comparable high-end PowerMac.... The laptop market is very similar - my little iBook I bought back in February was comparable in price to a similar "quality"(using the term loosely for many PC laptops) and featured PC laptop.

For the mid-level consumer - the iMac is comparable to a similarly equipped PC (how many all-in-one PC's with similar features are there?). And this goes all the way to the diminuative Mini ----

15 posted on 06/22/2006 8:49:14 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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I think Mac won't make it long term with their computers.

You ripped that right out of the technology headlines..... from 10 years ago, didn't you?!

16 posted on 06/22/2006 8:50:42 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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To: HAL9000
Even the most diehard Microsoft customers are getting tired of advice like "a full reformat is good for the computer every two years anyway..."

Ha! I know lots of Windows users who would be happy to see their system stay stable even for two months.

I think the next year or two are going to be an interesting time in corporate IT. When top brass figures out that half of their IT expenditures are for weeding out Windows spyware and viruses, maybe we'll see a lot of companies dump the feeble crapware. If Apple could perfect their enterprise servers, a trickle could become a flood, but even replacing desktops only would lead to significant savings in total cost of ownership.

With Intel processors and Windows virtualization, there is nothing an average business user needs to do that can't be done on a Mac. And there'd be a hell of a lot less hand-holding and spyware gardening necessary.

The fairly trivial difference in hardware prices would be more than recouped by the ability to slash IT support staff significantly. (Which is one of the main reasons there is still so much resistance to non-Microsoft solutions in business: jobs for the boys.)

17 posted on 06/22/2006 9:00:35 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: DesScorp
Proof, please?

Proof of what? That Apple will unbundle the OS? No one can prove that until it happens, or until next year passes and it doesn't happen.

Proof that industry insiders are betting on it? Check out the July issue of Maximum PC.

When Apple announced a move to Intel chips I posted my bet that Macs would be running Windows this year, and that prediction was ignored.

Now Macs are running Windows, and key professional apps like Photoshop are running under an Intel emulator. The Windows versions are faster on Mac hardware until a native MacIntel version is finished next year.

If the Mac OS is not released for generic PCs, it will die.

18 posted on 06/22/2006 10:11:14 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: A CA Guy

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I think Mac won't make it long term with their computers.
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Yeah, a twenty-eight year flash in the pan.


19 posted on 06/22/2006 10:26:44 AM PDT by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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It's been a bust and only the success of Ipod has allowed to to still even exist to continue on IMO.
20 posted on 06/22/2006 11:31:30 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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