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Confederate flags on space station draw ire
MSNBC ^ | 6/13/06 | James Oberg

Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.

The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.

The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.

However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.

“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."

The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”

“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederateflag; dixie; iss; losers; nasa; neoconfederate; pcpatrol; rebs; rednecksinspaaaaaace; slavestates; z
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To: stand watie
what sherman deserved was a rope. nothing more;nothing less.

What he got was thanks of Congress (twice), command of victorious armies, commander in chief of the Army, a respected retirement, and various other honors. Life bites sometimes, doesn't it.

461 posted on 06/16/2006 8:37:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie; x
don't you just hate it, when southerners point out that "dishonest abe" the "clay-footed, secular saint of DAMNyankeeland" was a RACIST of the first rank??? and that he hated & feared "persons of colour", Jews & Catholics????

And at that Lincoln's views towards other races and other religions was far and away better than those of Lee, Jackson, Davis, etc., etc. Don't you just hate it when I remind you of that?

462 posted on 06/16/2006 8:39:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
that's why many Texans celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

And why one day they'll be the crown jewel of the Azatlan you keep claiming is coming?

463 posted on 06/16/2006 8:40:13 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mr. Silverback
and the first shots were fired by....

John Brown?

464 posted on 06/16/2006 8:43:14 AM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: Candor7

> Yes there were bad things in confederate culture, but also there were many good things: tenacity, loyalty, chivalry, respect for the enemy, innovation in strategy, I could go on.

There were many good things in a LOT of fundamentally flawed cultures, but the fact that these cultures had good points doesn't mean we celebrate them. he Soviets built spiffy rockets, and effectively won the space race. Does that mean that Stalin is just neato-keen?

> Without the south our military would not be what it is today, full of many highly dedicated and loyal southerners.

That's nice. It's also irrelevant.


465 posted on 06/16/2006 8:52:02 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

> one of their objectives was to target and kill CSA officers

Good for them. What the hell are officers? Special? Are their lives sacred while those of the grunts not? If the battle can be won by taking out a dozen officers, that's preferable to taking out a hundred foot soldiers.

> they did not specifically target Union officers.

As memory serves, at least one Southron sharpshooter tried to take out Lincoln during the war.

> Southern honor and chivalry

Slavery.


466 posted on 06/16/2006 8:56:49 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: stand watie

> what sherman deserved was a rope

To string up the CSA officers as traitors? Good idea.


467 posted on 06/16/2006 9:01:04 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: stand watie
actually many Texans did fight for Mexico.

Not too many years ago we had a Governor that was always doing that...but he moved to Washington. :)
468 posted on 06/16/2006 9:06:01 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
it says a lot more about the DYs having an essentially UNLIMITED amount of supplies & men to throw up against southern steel.

free dixie,sw

469 posted on 06/16/2006 9:12:44 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
certainly does. for example, "wee willie klintoon" won the POTUS job twice.

free dixie,sw

470 posted on 06/16/2006 9:13:36 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
NOPE. because your comment is , as you well KNOW, false.

free dixie,sw

471 posted on 06/16/2006 9:14:18 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: orionblamblam; All
and another SILLY, DUMB-bunny post from "blam" for all here to laugh at.

free dixie,sw

472 posted on 06/16/2006 9:16:37 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

> SILLY, DUMB-bunny post

Scintillating as always.


473 posted on 06/16/2006 9:19:10 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
FACTUAL, as always. don't you wish you had "kept your trap shut"????

post less DAMNyankee apologist NONSENSE & you won't replace "m.eSPINola" as the class clown & become a "target of opportunity" for ridicule.

free dixie,sw

474 posted on 06/16/2006 9:22:04 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: orionblamblam
NOPE. to "be hanged by the neck until dead", as is fitting for a war criminal.

you will recall that we hanged several of NAZI & Japanese leaders after WW2 for precisely the same conduct that sherman "got away with" in this life.

free dixie,sw

475 posted on 06/16/2006 9:25:13 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

You're a strange little man.

How much does it hurt that a couple of drunks from the North completely spanked your genius generals?


476 posted on 06/16/2006 9:25:13 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
but I will continue to be proud that Illinois farmboys followed Sherman into the heart of the hornet's nest and put a stake through the heart of a tyranny.

Two of those Illinois farmboys were my great-great-great grandfathers.

477 posted on 06/16/2006 9:25:36 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: stand watie

> you will recall that we hanged several of NAZI & Japanese leaders after WW2 for precisely the same conduct that sherman "got away with" in this life.

I would recall it if I grew up in Bizarro World. But as the facts show, Sherman was a true gentleman, up against traitorous barbarians from the south (those geniuses you call "generals") who viewed their fellow man as cattle.

Sherman forever!


478 posted on 06/16/2006 9:28:16 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: stand watie
NOPE. because your comment is , as you well KNOW, false.

Is it? In your dreams perhaps.

479 posted on 06/16/2006 9:29:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: orionblamblam
you're a FINE one to talk about a "strange little man". LOL AT you & your SILLY, childish posts & attempts to be humorous.

as i said before, are you trying to replace "m/eSPINola" as the class clown of FR & a "target of opportunity" for ridicule???

fwiw, i'm chuckling at your childish responses, as i post this. the "DY team" has procured another "real winner" in you. i'm sure N-S, the unionist team captain, is "just thrilled". (lol.)

free dixie,sw

480 posted on 06/16/2006 9:29:32 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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