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NCAA rules against use of feathers in W&M sports logo
WVEC News ^ | May 17, 2006 | 13 News

Posted on 06/03/2006 1:55:32 PM PDT by beezdotcom

The College of William and Mary can use the nickname “Tribe” for its athletic teams, but it must eliminate the two feathers in the W&M logo, the National Collegiate Athletic Association ruled Tuesday.

The NCAA has been cracking down on Native American nicknames, mascots and images that some find offensive.

The NCAA said, “the committee believes that coupling the term “Tribe” with imagery that has traditionally been linked to Native Americans, for example eagle feathers and arrowheads, transforms that use from one associated with “togetherness,” “shared idealism,” and “commitment” to a stereotypical reference to Native Americans.”

If the Williamsburg college doesn’t comply, it chould be banned from post-season play.

William and Mary officials say they’ll appeal the ruling.

(Excerpt) Read more at wvec.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Local News; Miscellaneous; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: americanindians; hypersensitivity; leftismoncampus; logo; mascot; mascots; ncaa; pc; ruling; tribe; virginia; wandm
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I didn't see this specific article listed - apologies if it had already been posted. I just find it interesting that you can keep the "tribe", but not the feathers.
1 posted on 06/03/2006 1:55:35 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom
Why are stereotypes considered inherently bad anyway? I'm Irish, we love our booze - so what?
2 posted on 06/03/2006 1:58:17 PM PDT by Jaysun (Failure has gone to their heads.)
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To: beezdotcom
Interesting that I can't find the actual logo on the http://www.wm.edu site. I do see it on some other affiliated sites, like http://www.tribeathletics.com:


3 posted on 06/03/2006 2:00:51 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom
Interesting that I can't find the actual logo on the http://www.wm.edu site

Well, allright, I guess you can find it here...
4 posted on 06/03/2006 2:02:07 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Jaysun

Aye.

Bring it on, ye whiny punks.....;D

5 posted on 06/03/2006 2:05:15 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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To: Salamander

Do all Irishmen have such shifty eyes? Best be careful... (and why doesn't he have red hair, anyway?)


6 posted on 06/03/2006 2:12:51 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Jaysun
I love Billy Conn's statement after he was knocked out by Joe Louis.
Billy Conn weighed 169 pounds while Joe Louis weighed over 200.
Billy was out pointing the brown bomber and had shook Joe in the 12 th round.
He came out and started trading blows with Joe and got knocked out.

After the fight they asked why he started trading blows.
He said "What is the use of being Irish if you can't be stupid?".
7 posted on 06/03/2006 2:20:57 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: beezdotcom
Do the Politically Correct DANCE, NCAA.
8 posted on 06/03/2006 2:22:16 PM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Joe Louis weighed 199½ lb. for the 1941 Conn fight

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=9007


9 posted on 06/03/2006 2:27:14 PM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: MrCruncher
According to the ESPN Classic they lowered his weight from 204 to 199 1/2 and raised Billy Conns weight from 169 to 175 to make the bout seem more equal.
10 posted on 06/03/2006 2:31:36 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

ESPN sells Ali. PERIOD.

WHO came up with that for
ESPN Classic?

Alcoholic Bert Sugar?

Or one of the many other boxing "experts" who never had a fight with their own sister.

Louis' trainer Jack Blackburn never let Louis weight 200.

While Blackburn was alive Louis weighed 199 or less for every title defense.

Trusting ESPN Classic would be equal to trusting the Washington Post or NY TIMES.

ESPN got all the rare boxing films collected for decades by Jimmy Jacobs and Bill Cayton (managers of Mike Tyson).

Cayton gave them to ESPN, assuming they would show the very rare films of the great fighters from the early 1900's to the public.

Instead they show nothing but more recent crap.

Cayton's choice of ESPN was a disaster.


11 posted on 06/03/2006 2:43:27 PM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: beezdotcom

The red hair was probably *too* much of a stereotype.

I dunno about the shifty eyes, though.

Do you consider mine shifty?

[I always though I just had a perma-scowl]....;D




12 posted on 06/03/2006 2:53:11 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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To: Salamander

I object to the shamrock. Stop the presses, I feel offended by the shamrock.


13 posted on 06/03/2006 3:30:34 PM PDT by Jaysun (Failure has gone to their heads.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Pretty good for a guy that had just gotten knocked on his ass.


14 posted on 06/03/2006 3:32:07 PM PDT by Jaysun (Failure has gone to their heads.)
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To: Jaysun

You cloverophobe, you.


15 posted on 06/03/2006 3:51:36 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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You cloverophobe, you.

It's a disgrace to my peoples to have the clover shown on the hat of a mascot. Clovers should be reserved for the plastic hats and other paraphernalia that drunks wear on St. Patrick's Day. I'm looking for the NCAA's telephone number now. This is a damned outrage and I'm going to put an end to it.

The use of the word "cloverophobe" and any of its variants is also strictly prohibited as it has the potential to offend at least two or three people. You crossed the line. I'm afraid I'm going to need your name, rank, and serial number. And don't leave the county until further notice.
16 posted on 06/03/2006 4:07:34 PM PDT by Jaysun (Failure has gone to their heads.)
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To: Jaysun

Ha.
I'm on plane to Aruba right now.....:-P


17 posted on 06/03/2006 4:09:11 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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To: Salamander
Ha.
I'm on plane to Aruba right now.....:-P


(Calling my Uncle, Paul Van Der Sloot)
18 posted on 06/03/2006 4:29:57 PM PDT by Jaysun (In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily.)
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To: beezdotcom
Didn't Romans use feathers in their helmets? And didn't they have lots of tribes?

I suggest that all US college teams adopt nicknames that reflect European warriors and European heros. The hell with the NCAA. Suggested names:

--The Fighting _________ (Celts, Vandals, Normans, Huns, Vikings, Danes, Poles, Rus, Scots, Serbs, etc.) Try to find an ethnicity that is prominent in your region or was involved in your university's founding. Develop a mascot that is true to historical facts.
The Legion, with Roman soldier logos.
The Explorers. Logo shows ships on a horizon, name honors Columbus, Da Gama, King Henry of Portugal, etc.
The Discoverers. Logo shows a microscope and a scientist, or some other symbol of scientific discovery. Important that the symbol shows a European, because that's who made all the discoveries for the past 2000 years.

There are already some "Crusader" teams, mostly at Christian or Catholic schools. Just to get the Islamic/Atheist goat even more, how about some others in that vein:

The Andalucians--celebrating the removal of the Islamic horde
The Castillians--honoring those who drove the Mohemetans from Iberia
The Knights (in Crusader regalia)
The Saints (borrow the New Orleans NFL team's name.
The Apostles
The Martyrs (logo has something to do with Lions, there's a cross somewhere in it, so Muzzies aren't confused that it refers to suicide bombers).

There are heroes galore, mythic and real, to honor as namesakes, e.g., the Arthurs, the Caesars. MIT could change its name to "The Einsteins", and in so doing anger the Muslims by being named after a Jew.

There are non-PC names:
Conquistadors (replace Aztec at SDSU with this, and end the controversy over Monty Montezuma)
The A-Bombs, for New Mexico teams.
The Airborn, for teams near 101st Airborn or other units.
The Seals, and instead of the animal as your mascot, have it be a Navy Seal.

You get my drift. If the NCAA wants to become a PC institution, shove their hypocrisy in their face.

19 posted on 06/03/2006 7:07:58 PM PDT by Defiant (You have to earn American citizenship. You may not steal it. Ask those vets its value.)
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Even Jewish people use the word "tribe". Banning "tribe" would clearly identify the NCAA as a racist, anti-semitic outfit ~ which it is come to think of it.

Hmmm.

I don't think they respect Indians either. Every time you turn around they're trying to suppress any evidence that Indians ever existed (for example).

20 posted on 10/10/2006 2:56:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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