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Old Times Here Are Apparently Forgotten
Cornell American ^ | May 31st, 2006 | Vanessa Durante

Posted on 06/01/2006 9:07:55 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

Last month, Ithaca High School administrators sent a letter home with students, informing their parents that the flag of the Confederacy had been banned. Ithaca High School students can no longer display the emblem on belt buckles, t-shirts, or anywhere else while on school property. Apparently, the students wearing their Dixie Outfitters t-shirts, in a proud nod to our country’s better half, were white. It is unfortunate that civil liberties apply only to those in privileged groups, such as blacks or Hispanics.

Because the United States Supreme Court has ruled in favor of protecting the freedom of speech exercised in displaying the stars and bars, Ithaca High School had to claim that the flag was creating some sort of disruption in the school that hindered the educational process. No specific instances were mentioned in the administration’s letter.

I found the claim interesting, though, because, were it true, it would clearly indicate that racism is much more of a problem in Upstate New York than in my hometown in Southern Virginia. To think that racial hatred could be stirred up by a high school student’s belt buckle is frightening, indeed. The school’s objection to the battle flag is even more astonishing considering the fact that only 6.7% of the population of Ithaca is black. But apparently the race wars here are far more intense than in my hometown, of which 13.34% of the population was black. And yet, in my public high school, where displays of the confederate flag were common on car bumpers, t-shirts, or belt buckles, and where a significant minority of the student body was black, and even in a state that historically had supported slavery, the flag was never accused of disturbing a classroom, much less of inciting racial hatred.

Ithaca’s black population is proportionately only slightly more than half that of the United States. This is an unusually white city. And apparently race relations here are in such tension that they can be upset by a kid’s t-shirt. Schools in the South, much less segregated, are clearly more at ease and have put issues of racism farther behind them;thus, students there can better appreciate the historic and cultural value of the Confederate flag. It leads one to wonder on which side of the Mason-Dixon Line racism is still prevalent today.

The Confederate flag is not—and was never—a representation of the institution of slavery. The North, in an attempt to glorify its states’ fight to suppress the South’s effort to free themselves from the North’s exploitation, has oversimplified and at times even falsified history by painting the War of Northern Aggression as a war fought over issues of morality. Children in Northern schools are never made aware that there were no more abolitionists in the North than in the South.They are never taught that the North never claimed to want to abolish slavery but merely to stop its expansion to ensure that the free states would not be outnumbered in Congress. Many Northerners do no even know that the majority of Southerners who fought and died in the Civil War did not even own slaves.

In accordance with their favored depiction of the Civil War as a moral battle in which they fought for good while the South defended evil, the North has emphasized the issue of slavery while allowing the issues of representation in national politics, economics, and regional identities which primarily caused the war to recede into the background. Erased from history are the values of self-government, freedom, and honor that led Confederates to fight to preserve their home. This is what the Confederate flag represents, and this is why it is still of the utmost importance to Southerners today. It is why black Southerners will proudly call themselves Southern and will fly the Confederate flag. The South is, above all, a cultural entity. Southerners have a dramatically different culture from Northerners; this culture of chivalry, modesty, graciousness, and hospitality is represented by the stars and bars, and it must be remembered and preserved.

If the Confederate flag has in fact caused the feelings of ill will in Ithaca High School that the administration claims, the blame must fall on the administration itself. No Southerner would be so naive as to equate the Confederate flag with support of slavery. It is a failure of Yankee schools that children are not taught the broad scope of economic, political, and even cultural factors which led to the Civil War but are only presented with a gross caricature of a war between good and evil.

Even more frightening than this restriction of freedom of speech in Ithaca High School is what has caused this common misunderstanding of the Confederate flag. In perpetuating their myth of the North as the force of good in the Civil War, the North has revised history in a way that should frighten all Americans. An emblem of a group of people’s heritage and culture has been banned because others have formed prejudices and misconceptions about it. Moreover, these prejudices and misconceptions are fueled by the public school system itself. By banning the Confederate flag, the state attempts to erase from memory the Civil War. To forget that Americans in the past were capable of such atrocities as slavery robs us of the lesson that can be learned and leaves us dangerously vulnerable to repeating past mistakes.

If the Confederate flag calls to mind slavery, and schools wish to erase from common memory all remnants of this dark period in American history, why stop at the flag? Perhaps next, Ithaca parents will receive letters requesting that their children be sent to school clothed in only synthetic fabrics because cotton was once produced through the slave labor of blacks. Or, in order to really be free of uncomfortable memories of our national history, maybe Ithaca High School will ban all black students from school property.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ban; cbf; confederate; confederateflag; cornell; crossofsaintandrew; dixie; dresscodes; flag; foolish; freespeech; high; hogwash; indoctrination; ithaca; northernaggression; rebs; saintandrewscross; school; traitors
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To: LeoWindhorse

Well said LeoWindhorse!


141 posted on 06/04/2006 10:26:19 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

"Tally ho!" Join the Cavalry.....


142 posted on 06/04/2006 11:31:26 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse
Mr. H.K.Edgerton is the perfect living example of this modern day honorable pride .

You might have said he's the ONLY one, and apparently he's making a pretty good living at it.

143 posted on 06/05/2006 6:45:54 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: vdd2
Because the United States Supreme Court has ruled in favor of protecting the freedom of speech exercised in displaying the stars and bars, Ithaca High School had to claim that the flag was creating some sort of disruption in the school that hindered the educational process. No specific instances were mentioned in the administration’s letter.

First of all I find it hard to believe that white children in upstate NY have any historical/cultural reason for displaying the confederate battle flag on their person.

Beyond that, do you think the high school's action could have been in response to a recent Stabbing on the Cornell campus with racial overtones and the fallout it caused on campus and within the community?

Rather than trampling on the precious first amendment rights of their pimply faced charges, perhaps the safety minded high school administrators were justifiably responding to recent events taking place at YOUR school?

I'll leave the obvious irony regarding someone so prone to southern regional bias attending such a citidal of Yankeedom for another time.

Cheers.

144 posted on 06/05/2006 7:30:27 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: LeoWindhorse
CORRECT!

free dixie,sw

145 posted on 06/05/2006 7:50:23 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
EXACTLY!

free dixie,sw

146 posted on 06/05/2006 7:51:37 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: mac_truck
NOPE. NOT the only one (have you heard of the Black Confederate Soldiers Memorial Foundation? - ALL the members are Black.)& NO he's NOT "making a living at it"

when HK came to our President's Day parade last year he paid his own way, despite the fact that several people (who knew he is not "well to do"!) offered him $$$$$ to help defray his expenses.

sorry, but once more you are 100% WRONG.

free dixie,sw

147 posted on 06/05/2006 7:55:25 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
have you heard of the Black Confederate Soldiers Memorial Foundation?

No, and neither has Dogpile...

148 posted on 06/05/2006 8:23:16 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck
and your point is WHAT?? do you HAVE a point???

btw,a "dogpile" pretty much sums up the QUALITY/content of your posts.

surely you are NOT one of the "dunces" that thinks all that exists is on the "worldwidewierd". about HALF of the content of the "www." is FALSE,incomplete simplistic, gossip & just plain wrong.

free dixie,sw

149 posted on 06/05/2006 9:18:09 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: mac_truck
No, and neither has Dogpile...

It's probably another fundraising scam that's destined to line the pockets of Kirk Lyons and advance his white supremacist agenda.

150 posted on 06/05/2006 9:43:17 AM PDT by Heyworth
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bump


151 posted on 06/05/2006 1:18:08 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Da Bilge Troll
The states joined the union voluntarily. Should they not be able to leave it the same way? Where does it say they can't?

I suggest you re-read the Constitution, specifically Article IV, Section 3. States join nothing. They are admitted and only after the approval of a majority of the existing states through a vote of their representatives in both houses of Congress, and do not exist prior to that vote. So I agree that they should be able to leave the same way, with the approval of the other states through a vote in Congress.

152 posted on 06/05/2006 2:00:01 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
States join nothing. They are admitted and only after the approval of a majority of the existing states through a vote of their representatives in both houses of Congress, and do not exist prior to that vote.

They don't exist? Are you saying Missouri was once a black hole? LOL!

153 posted on 06/05/2006 2:17:40 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
obviously you either haven't read NOR do you understand the TENTH Amendment to the Constitution OR, more likely, you are trying to DECEIVE the other readers of this thread.

NO state would have FREELY entered a union, from which it could not just as FREELY depart.

N-S you are SMART enough to KNOW that, though your "team", with the exception of you is NOT.

free dixie,sw

154 posted on 06/05/2006 2:33:03 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
actually, N-S is the DAMNyankees Minister of Propaganda.

his JOB is to evade the truth & to DECEIVE the ignorant/naive/foolish into believing the DY line.

expect nothing more than that from him.

free dixie,sw

155 posted on 06/05/2006 2:42:26 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
They don't exist? Are you saying Missouri was once a black hole? LOL!

The area that now encompasses Missouri was always there. What political entity it was changed several times (Indian country, France, Spain, France again...). When the United States purchased that land from France, it became United States territory--still not a state. As a territory, it applied for statehood. It didn't make itself a state. Congress changed its status from territory to state.

156 posted on 06/05/2006 2:54:45 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Colt .45
Yada-yada, blase-blase blah. Same old tune of denial. Get real and do your homework.

In other words, you got nothin'. Alexander Stephens neatly does away with the tariff and shipping arguments. Do you want to direct me to a source that shows Nat Turner was inspired by the northern abolitionist movement before the movement existed? Do you want to explain how southern states could continue to have "parity" in congress once all those states had been formed and admitted to the union? (Or by "southern states" do you in fact mean "slave states"?)

157 posted on 06/05/2006 4:25:08 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Da Bilge Troll
They don't exist? Are you saying Missouri was once a black hole? LOL!

Pretty much, yeah. Though I know a fair number of people who still consider Missouri a hole, especially Branson. But I digress. States have no legal status prior to being admitted. Missouri wasn't a state until it was created, neither were 36 of the remaining 49 states. Congress, in effect, created them by admitting them to the body politic.

158 posted on 06/05/2006 4:40:51 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
NO state would have FREELY entered a union, from which it could not just as FREELY depart.

As I pointed out earlier they don't FREELT enter. They are admitted, and only with the permission of the other states.

159 posted on 06/05/2006 6:04:11 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: tigtog
The fact of the norths victory is built upon the corpses of irish immigrants, which were detested by the good burgers of NY who would hire an immigrant to serve his draft notice.

Total nonsense. Over 45 percent of all Union soldiers were native born Americans, mostly of English descent. Next largest group were Germans, about 24%, equally divided between native born and immigrant. Third largest group were African-Americans, about 10%. Irish, native born and immigrant, were the fourth largest group with about 9 percent of the total army population.

The fact of the matter you could buy an irish man to serve in your stead for around $250, while to buy a slave in either NC or Delaware the going price was $3,500.

You are aware, aren't you, that owning a certain number of those $3500 slaves automatically excluded the southern slave owner from conscription? No need to hire anyone, just own them. Who had the lock on morality?

I think if you really want to talk about the morality of the Civil War a good place to start would be the immigrant ghettos of New York, Boston, and Philidelphia.

Our history is filled with stories of those immigrants and their sons or daughters rising above their humble beginnings and excelling in business and industry. They had that opportunity. In the south the sone of a slave was a slave. His son was a slave. His grandson was a slave. Kind of hard to rise above that, isn't it?

160 posted on 06/05/2006 6:17:37 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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