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Attorneys in Duke rape case file motion to get lineup report
Winston-Salem Journal (NC) ^ | Sunday, May 28, 2006 | staff

Posted on 05/28/2006 9:59:32 AM PDT by Perdogg

The woman who has accused three Duke University men's lacrosse players of raping her failed to identify at least one of them in a photo array eight days after the reported attack, according to a motion filed Friday by defense attorneys. The motion also says that she then selected him as an attacker more than two weeks later.

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KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durham
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To: Hogeye13

That's fine, but you didn't explain any of that when you made the comment about the jets in response to my remark about it being a good idea to start a lawsuit against Mangum now. I think it's called a non sequitur.


501 posted on 06/01/2006 2:34:20 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: SwampFoxSC

SWAMPFOX,

That would explain a lot. I was thinking that he would give a name that would be accurate (in some sense), but harder to trace.

I wouldn't be surpised at all if that's not our boy.

That would explain why the News and Observer didn't say, he's a 31 year old that's never been in trouble before. In his spare time, he reads to disabled children and takes his dog to Nursing homes.


502 posted on 06/01/2006 2:34:51 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: SwampFoxSC

Good work, swampfox.

So, the driver/boyfriend/whatever is a 34 year-old recently convicted felon with a record going back half his lifetime, including sexual assault on a woman.

I guess this is Nifong's star witness who is going to move his timeline back for him.

Nifong battin' .1000 as usual, lol!


503 posted on 06/01/2006 2:46:56 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Mike Nifong

If anybody in this case needs a body guard, it's Bissey. I wonder if he's aware that a violent felon may have a disagreement with him as to what time Mangum arrived at the Buchanan house.


504 posted on 06/01/2006 2:49:59 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: pepperhead

Carl Brian Taylor, well-known local felon.


505 posted on 06/01/2006 2:52:04 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

"After their arrival, he and his daughter took a short car ride about 10 p.m. to a neighborhood convenience store at Cornwallis Road and South Roxboro Street. He bought a pack of cigarettes but said he did not recall what his daughter purchased.

When the two returned to his house, the woman said she had to go out and wouldn't return until 1:30 a.m."

Dad has CGM still at home at a little after 10:00, when they got back from the store. Rather a huge discrepancy with Brian.....

By this story, the show was supposed to start at 11:30, and Brian couldn't find the house and was very late....


506 posted on 06/01/2006 2:55:55 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: David Allen

That's right, and I would spare nobody, including her lying father with his broomstick comments.

Tie up as many as possible in as many venues as possible, drive a wedge between Mangum and Nifong, and then bury Nifong with Mangum's testimony that he manipulated the suspect ID's and pushed her to pursue the case even though she told him there was no rape (which may or may not have occurred, but she'll say it anyway. When pushed hard enough, she'll lay the whole thing off on Nifong).


507 posted on 06/01/2006 3:09:30 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

This guy?


http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/apps/offender/raw1?DOCNUM=0399741&APPV7AA1=on&APPV9BJ1=on&INMV4AA1=on&INMV4BB1=on&INMV4CA1=on&INMV9CF1=on&OFNV1BA1=on&OFNV3AA1=on&OFNV3BB1=on&OFNV3BS1=on&OFNV3BT1=on&OFNV3BV1=on&OFNV3CE1=on&OFNV3DE1=on&OFNV9BE1=on&SEARCH=Search

Enter: 0399741

(check all the boxes)


508 posted on 06/01/2006 3:10:04 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: All; Jezebelle; Krodg; SwampFoxSC; abb; maggief; JLS; ltc8k6; Palladin; Constitutions Grandchild; ..

If you read POST 470,

here's the next step. This is a theory.

The same woman that did this extremely odd article/interview of Brian Taylor, which I believe was orchestrated and overseen by a lawyer, also was the only Media person to do a sit down with the Alleged Victim.

That same article in the North Carolina News and Observer was also strange. I saw on another website where the editor of the paper later stated that only the part of the AV's story that was consistent with the Police report and info from authorities was PRINTED in that artilce.

Everyone assumed this poor woman was found by the Media and she naively gave an interview. What if that was NOT the case? We know from Woody Van (her attorney when she stole a car and tried to run over the Cop) that the AV contacted him within days of the alleged attack. This is odd because if she's a victim, why is she contacting a DEFENSE attorney?
Let's suppose for a minute that she continued calling Lawyers. Let's say she called Mark Simeon days after the event. Mark Simeon is advising the AV's family. He asked the parents to stop talking to the Press (and they haven't since then). Simeon is representing Kim Roberts (Civilly) and he's admitted to contacting Willie Gary and asked him to sign on and be on the team with Simeon to represent Crystal
in a civil lawsuit.

A good argument (IMO) can be made that the interview with Brian Taylor was brokered with the sympathetic N&O reporter and that explains why any and all damaging subjects were totally and completed avoided (apparently, not even asked).
Consider this: what if Simeon (or some Lawyer) representing Crystal also contacted the N&O and brokered that interview on 3/25. That would explain why only the portions of the interview supporting her story made it into print. It would fit with Woody Van's statement that she contacted him days after and asked for advice (he could say no more).

If Crystal lawyered up that early that may explain why so far into this story, so little was known. Someone guiding and protecting her (with contacts to all the witnesses known to Crystal only) with the goal of improving the likelyhood of a Big Civil Payoff. I remember reading people posting dumbfounded that 8 weeks after it happened, we didn't know how she got to the party, or how she got to the hospital, or if she even has driving priviliges.

A lawyer looking out for Crystal's interests just days after the alleged attack - a lawyer that could negotiate with Nifong so that Crystal wouldn't have to go before the Grand Jury (which she didn't); negotiate for police protection and transportation; provide a unknown residence for the AV; and keep Drivers, boyfriends, friends, and relatives from selling damaging facts or stories to tabloids about Crystal.


509 posted on 06/01/2006 3:13:10 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: ltc8k6

They probably meant they needed to check if the kids could stay there past the 1:30 planned return time for Mangum to pick them up. I don't think we actually know if a cop went over there, though.


510 posted on 06/01/2006 3:15:17 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: maggief

Yep, that guy.


511 posted on 06/01/2006 3:19:19 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

Why wake the kids up at 1:30AM, though? That'll just wreck their night's sleep.

Let them sleep until they need to get ready for school and then take them to school.

It's not surprising, though. Little about this case on the accuser's side makes much sense....


512 posted on 06/01/2006 3:21:25 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Mike Nifong

I think she's been represented all along, too.


513 posted on 06/01/2006 3:23:22 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

We agree. First you get her beaten down, to where she's ready to get out of the trap. Then you make her cough up Nifong and all those who created this mess.

Maybe she'll give up Jesse Jackson and some of the others trying to mine this case.


514 posted on 06/01/2006 3:23:54 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: ltc8k6

They wouldn't have to wake the kids up, just one of her parents.


515 posted on 06/01/2006 3:24:25 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

That is quite a rap sheet.


516 posted on 06/01/2006 3:25:54 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: All; maggief; GAgal; SwampFoxSC

Maggief,

Was it you or GAgal that made the comment days back about the original article on the driver and said, Yeah, Brian and Crystal were sipping Mint tea during their visit before the party? LMAO!

Well, this record (thanks to SwampFoxSC !), if him, just magnifies the humor of these articles the News Corpse is trying to pass off on us.


517 posted on 06/01/2006 3:27:10 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: David Allen

Given Mangum's track record, it's safe to say she'll take the first shelter offered, and that would be giving up Nifong. Nobody's going to go the cost of her defense in multiple jurisdictions because her story is too weak for anybody to make the investment.

If the lax defense would start filing these suits, Nifong, the ultimate target, would be changing his shorts hourly.

I don't think Jesse is backing this. He's been burned enough times himself to know not to touch a loser like this woman other than the usual racist lip service support. Shabazz and his boys moved in to fill the void left by Jesse in this case.


518 posted on 06/01/2006 3:32:41 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

Well, CGM just has to call and say she'll get the kids in the morning, she's staying with a friend, or whatever.

I must be missing something again..... :-)

I think I need a nap.


519 posted on 06/01/2006 3:41:30 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Mike Nifong

She got two calls on her cell phone saying, if you don't get here soon, it's going to be cancelled? Could those calls have been from Kim? Did Kim arrive first? Do we know?


520 posted on 06/01/2006 3:42:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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