Posted on 05/25/2006 5:04:51 AM PDT by abb
DURHAM -- A lawyer with the state NAACP said the civil rights organization intends to seek a gag order in the Duke lacrosse case, and a journalist who participated in a forum with him on Wednesday said media coverage of the alleged rape may deprive the alleged victim of her legal rights to a fair trial.
Al McSurely, an attorney who chairs the Legal Redress Committee for the state National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he generally respects the defense attorneys in the case as colleagues. But they are violating the State Bar's rules of professional conduct that discourage comments outside court that are likely to prejudice a case, he said.
The NAACP will try to intervene in the case to file a "quiet zone/let's let justice work" motion. That is otherwise known as a gag order, he acknowledged, although he said he doesn't like that term.
McSurely's comments came amid the first-ever Durham Conference on the Moral Challenges of our Culture at First Presbyterian Church downtown. The session gave the approximately 150 people who attended a chance to hear a series of talks and discuss among themselves sexual and domestic violence, racism, class distinctions and the media.
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Oh yes. FICA was deducted from my military pay 35 years ago. I'm sure it is today...
Well like to ask questions here. So here is my question of the day. Why was Evans treated differently?
1. Why was Evans not indicted until after he graduated, ie not interupting his education unlike Seligmann and Finnerty who if Duke does not make some adjustment lost an entire term.
2. Why was Evans allowed to surrender rather than be arrested and put through the perp walk as was the case with Seligmann and Finnerty.
Was it because the election was over? Was it because Nifong realizes this case is falling apart on him? Was it because of fear of the power of Evans' parents?
I doubt it was because the ID was only 90% missing facial hair. It would be silly of a prosecutor to admit more doubt about one defendant than other prior to trial.
So why was Evans treated differently and marginally better?
Gentle Reader, she was given a general discharge from the service over two years ago, and even with the unfortunate extramarital affair she had, I give her credit for enlisting. Had I been sent into the fray of battle, I might be inclined to love the one I'm with, as well (although in my advanced age it's somewhat of a stretch to think about). I even have no difficulty with her current avocation, provided she doesn't get too creative in her pursuit of wealth and fame.
I don't fault the woman or her family or the families of those in Utah who suffered the deception, I speak of my personal approach to parenting -- not her tax payor status or her previous high calling of service to her country.
As a Post Script, JLS, I might add that I believe she has lowered her standards in recent years, and her behavior would lead me to be dubious as to her whereabouts, if she were living under my roof and I was caring for her children, it's hard to believe she's working in an all-night diner or as a nurses aid if the only uniform I see her in is a red nightie and pasties -- but that's just me.
I tried to answer two questions at once. You and ladyjane had both mentioned the Utah situation. I tried to clear that up.
Sacajaweau asked if Mangum had ever worked for a living, implying she was just a scam artist. Well Mangum is a scam artist, but I tried to remind Sacajaweau she did have her navy job which is clearly in the minds of most working for a living.
So why keep the arrests separate? Simple..NiFong needed more time to "rearrange" his case and to put certain elements of the case in public view.....no doubt with the intent of influencing potential jurors and his political base. It certainly wasn't very difficult for the media to do "runaways", the nail being a good example.
I'd sure like to see the chain of custody on the nail. Only an idiot would use it as evidence to favor Crystal. It says Crystal was in the bathroom doing "something" with her nails not that she was raped and it's like so totally contaminated.
I think the SBI lab got the results correct the first time. Nifong just couldn't believe it and wasted the taxpayer's money on a "better" lab. He was so sure the LAX players were guilty that he bet a lot of money that the SBI lab was wrong, an he lost.
There is no way the SBI missed the DNA from the boyfriend. If they did, then we need a new SBI DNA lab.
CGM probably couldn't remember how many men she slept with. She had her "boyfriend", her 2 "drivers", and her 5 "one on ones" that weekend, remember.
She probably said a few different numbers to the police and they eventually settled on the 3 most likely....
"navy job which is clearly in the minds of most working for a living"
Not to the other services.... :-)
Ducking and running...
I was in the Army in the early 1990's and FICA was deducted from my pay.
She has to testify. She doesn't have an option. The defense can require it.
I've never heard it mentioned on these threads, but can't the boys ask for a bench trial?
No, I think what happened is that Nifong was surprised there was not a match with any lax players and that it was someone else's semen in her. He, or the cops or investigators, then asked her whose it could be and she gave them three names - her BF and the two drivers. They all gave samples and a match was made.
I don't know. It's a matter of NC state law.
It's certainly possible they could. I'd rather have a jury. One thinker on the jury and this case is over. You never know what may be acting on the judge.
It's very frustrating, knowing that there is really no case, to watch the taxpayers taken for a ride.
If the 46 players submitted to DNA testing do they have a legal right to know that not only were they exonerated, there was someone else involved?
I guess this is a legal question. The defense was surely surprised to know that the semen existed since I remember Cheshire claiming the AV hadn't had sex with anyone when the first DNA results came out.
I still understand it that one semen DNA sample was found in her, not three, and that that knowledge and that it wasn't that of an lax player came to Nifong after the first round of testing, not the second round from the private lab.
My understanding is that under NC law the prosecutor has to consent to jury.
Crystal gave the names of three guys, her BF and her two "drivers", when they found the semen in her and asked her about it. That didn't come from some database of DNA samples.
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