Posted on 05/24/2006 1:14:22 PM PDT by RecallMoran
She was black, they were white, and race and sex were in the air.
But whatever actually happened that March 13 night at Duke University -- both the reported rape and its surrounding details are hotly disputed -- it appears at least that the disturbing historic script of the sexual abuse of black women was playing out inside that lacrosse party.
Two black women performed an exotic dance. The white men in their audience shouted racial epithets, one of the women has said. Things got rough. Someone in the crowd held a broomstick aloft and shouted "I'm gonna shove this up you," the other woman told police when she reported being raped. As the women fled the house, a neighbor reportedly heard one of the men shout: "Hey bitch, thank your grandpa for my nice cotton shirt."
The mainstream media have largely tiptoed around the brutal truth that has been discussed among black women in private conversations, in the blogosphere and on college campuses. It is that the Duke case is in some ways reminiscent of a black woman's vulnerability to a white man during the days of slavery, reconstruction and Jim Crow, when sex was used as a tool of racial domination.
It was the kind of predatory behavior that found its way into modern culture in the old Rolling Stones song, "Brown Sugar." And the stereotype of black women as highly sexed, like the lascivious Jezebel from slavery days. "I think there's a tendency to downgrade black women and to discount the fact that, no matter what they are there to do, they are not just animals to be used," says Dorothy Height, 94, president emeritus of the National Council of Negro Women.
"Whatever she did, she was not there as a prostitute," Height says in her defense.
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I think a case could be made that if a white man mistreats a black woman, it might be due to what he learned about black women in rap videos.
there are lies, damn lies and statistics.
if a black serial rapist, raped women at random, 7 out of 10 would be white. If a white serial rapist, raped women at random, 15 out of 100 would be black.
viewed in that light, your stat still has some significance, but is much less significant than you would like.
You're comparing probabilities with statistics.... there is a difference IMO....
Try comparing the probablility of a random man raping a random woman and the anticipated races of each, then compare those ratios to the actual tabulated statistics by race...
Probably blows your 7/10 and 15/100 odds out the window...
before that ,I don't know......slaves were held by a minority of white owners......abuse was certainly possible, maybe even probable.....
I DO believe black women have a history of being sexually and physically abused, however, except I think its predominantly coming from black men....
Just telling you what I'd do if I were in charge of Duck University. Duck figured prominently in Dnesh D'Souza's list of formerly serious schools which had degenerated into PC factories, and they now seem to be enmeshed in the evil fruits of the ****. You'd figure that at some point the error of their ways would dawn on them...
"viewed in that light, your stat still has some significance, but is much less significant than you would like."
Before you use your dazzling powers of clairvoyance to determine what I do and don't "like", perhaps you should read the whole freakin' thread.
White on black rape is practically non-existant in this country and that is just a documented fact, regardless of what I "like". I'm sorry if that doesn't fit your abusive, oppressive, hate-filled whitey stereotype.
Absoloute nonesense. If that were true, interracial marriages would not be so one-sided (black male/white female). The projection by Peterson is staggering. I'm not sure I've ever read a more willfully dishonest piece in all my time on FR.
I see that you appreciate that your statistical argument about Black-on-White vs. White-on-Black rape might have some holes in it, and I'll point out the major flaw. You can't automatically assume that rape patterns will match the population ratios because the racial distribution (88 Non-Black v. 12 Black) is not EVENLY distibuted everywhere. In urban areas the percentage of Blacks would be expected to be much higher. You would also need to factor-in the crime rates.
Another factor is how many rape victims KNOW their assailant -- there are a significant percentage that do -- especially since "Date Rape" has been factored-in to, in my opinion, inflate the rape numbers. My point here is that if rapists & their victims are aquainted, it's probably fair to assume that they are of the same racial group in the vast majority of cases. This would skew the data heavily toward intra-racial and away from inter-racial.
What not claim racism?, Her credibility is shot, the race card is pretty much all they have left.
you guys are mathematical idiots.
if rapes were random more white women get raped because there are more of them, and not because of racism.
fiero stats if true show that white women get raped even more than what would be expected but not that much more than expected.
fyi, freepers are supposed to smarter than du'ers, but I'm beginning to have my doubts.
You mean not all black women have sex with someone they won't name, then run off to strip for college kids??? /sarcasm
I'm sorry about the mathematical idiot remark.
Here is what I'm saying.
I never said random sampling was the real world truth.
What I am saying is that real world stats should be compared to random sampling for statistical significance and when you do that fieros stats are less significant than looking at them at first blush.
I don't argue with anything that you just said. When the stats don't agree then assumptions must be questioned. That was the argument that I myself was trying to make.
Crime should never be assumed to be random.
I watched part of the Abrams show yesterday. That woman was an embarrassment to all females.
OT. Am I the only person who thinks that Yale Galanter looks similar to Eddie Timanus?
And, "Who is Eddie Timanus?", you ask. He is the blind USA Today sports writer who appeared on Jeopardy several years ago.
It's a complete myth, one that people like Farrakan or the NAACP love to perpetuate. Go into any nice "gentlemen's" club in America, and you won't find many black dancers. Most black dancers dance in black clubs for black men. Why? Because the overwhelming majority of white men don't even want to watch a black woman do a lap dance. It's not racist. It's preference, just like the black guys who like to have black women dance for them.
I've been a white man a long time, and I've never once heard any white man talk about wanting to have sex with a black woman, or even alluding to, except when Halle Berry was mentioned.
"What I am saying is that real world stats should be compared to random sampling for statistical significance and when you do that fieros stats are less significant than looking at them at first blush."
That stat is white male on black female rape as a percentage of all rapes. I have read that the actual numbers of such rapes are as few as 5-10 a year, spiking as high as 20. Statistically, that won't even show up when figured in to all rapes. Whatever the reasons behind that were not relevant to my point. My point was to discount someone quoted in the artice referring to the "historic abuses of black women" by white males. That's simply not true. Then I see some quote from an artice about white males obsession with black women. Keep dreaming. The lies, comments and outright racial hatred coming from "The Victim"'s camp is disgusting. The sad part is, they know she's lying. They KNOW it. They just don't care. This is a power play for them.
I didn't mean to come off harshly. I thought I was being accused of manipulating data to get the results I wanted. Not so.
LOL! I remember that well! It was our own Curtis Sliwa (Guardian Angel founder and WABC talk show host) who recognized the phrase from a then playing Spike Lee movie and cried foul.
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