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Defense gets accuser's phone data
Herald Sun ^ | May 18th, 2006 | J. Stevenson

Posted on 05/18/2006 10:53:18 PM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble

May 18, 2006 : 9:32 pm ET

DURHAM -- A judge agreed Thursday to let the defense try to find out what information is on the cell phone of the exotic dancer who has accused three Duke lacrosse players of rape, and also ordered police to preserve their notes in the case.

The decisions came as the case of State v. Reade Seligmann saw its first day in court after weeks of sometimes stunning developments, press conferences, leaked documents and almost nonstop chatter.

With a trial likely still months away, the brief hearing was supposed to be nothing more than a chance for District Attorney Mike Nifong and defense attorney Kirk Osborn, representing one of the three Duke lacrosse players charged with first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping, to settle some administrative issues.

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TOPICS: History; Local News; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; lacrosse; lax; nifong; seligman
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To: Jezebelle

"I think Nifong is a vengeful little prick, very unprofessional and highly unethical."


LOL! Boy, you do know how to call 'em!





81 posted on 05/19/2006 10:52:07 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: ConsistentLibertarian

"What's your point?"


Jezebelle's point is that Nifong is a vengeful little prick, very unprofessional and highly unethical.


82 posted on 05/19/2006 10:58:27 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: za_claws
Thanks for all your information. Surprising how one little thing pops up that puts a different view on an event. That 10-56 is great. So when did she "think" about rape? When she told the officer who tried to get her out of the car to get his/her hands off of her??

Is THAT why she was taken to see a SANE person?....To protect the officer??

Was the Officer white/black and/or male/female???

We need to know!

83 posted on 05/19/2006 11:03:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
well judging by his voice, he is a Good ole boy white man, He called his partner Big Daddy
84 posted on 05/19/2006 11:12:42 AM PDT by za_claws
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To: Sacajaweau

I just saw in NC 10-56 was the code for intoxicted person


85 posted on 05/19/2006 11:18:07 AM PDT by za_claws
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To: Sacajaweau

Here is a part of Kim's 911 call, she pretended to be just walking by the house and got insulted.

"Hi, I don't know if this is emergency or not necessarily, but I'm in Durham driving down near Duke's campus," the caller said.

Seconds into the call, the woman said she wasn't driving.

"It's right in front of 610 Buchanan St. and I saw them all come out like a big frat house and me and my black girlfriend were walking by and they called us n!#@%&," the caller said.

Here is some of the timeline I feel is pretty acurate, it may have been the hospital that first mentioned rape...I dunno.

1:33AM., First officer to arrive at the Kroger tells the dispatcher: "She's 10-56 and unconscious." The radio code 10-56 means an intoxicated person. The dispatcher asks: "You need a medic truck or are you 10-4?" The officer replies: "She's breathing, appears to be fine, she's not in distress. She's just passed out drunk."

2:00ish, Second officer arrives and takes accuser to nearby psychiatric hospital (substance-abuse center) because of her inebriated state. Officer referred to Duke University Medical Center (DUMC) Emergency Center.


2:31 a.m., Accuser arrives at DUMC emergency room.

2:45 a.m., Accuser checked into the hospital. Staff evaluation indicates possible sexual assualt. A Sexual Abuse nurse is summoned.

2:50 a.m., Durham police initiate "rape investigation". Accuser submits to 3-4 hour rape kit examination by a physician and a Forensic Sexual Assualt Nurse (SANE) at DUMC. She is likely given a battery of blood and urine tests. According to the DA, Mike Nifong, a hospital report later showed that her injuries and emotional state were consistent with having been raped.


86 posted on 05/19/2006 11:28:18 AM PDT by za_claws
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To: Jezebelle
Were there three semen samples found in her, or one?

Cheshire said in the press conference "single male source"..

87 posted on 05/19/2006 11:31:44 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Jezebelle

:)


88 posted on 05/19/2006 11:40:55 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: All

Is anyone watching The Abrams' Report

Is he covering Duke today?


89 posted on 05/19/2006 1:08:30 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: za_claws
Did someone say Abrams?--

Defense attorney Yale on the Abrams panel has been in contact with attorneys for the Lacrosse players. Says there is no smoking gun in the report, and SANE rape exam consistent with what defense has been saying.

The ever hateful Georgia Goslee still shilling, saying the defense could not possibly know yet that there is no smoking gun due to the 1200+ pages. Then says the DA only turned over exculpatory evidence.

Gets slapped down by other panelsts on that claim. NC attorney Wade corrects her, citing NC law requiring he turn over everything.

90 posted on 05/19/2006 1:52:20 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: All

Today on Abrams, an important fact revealed in the medical report now in defense's possession was presented by Yale Galanter: Mangum specifically told the Duke nurse that condoms were not used.

1). If a rape ahainst Mangum was committed by these three boys in the way she said it happened, the DNA of at least one of them, in some form or another, would have been discovered on or in her body somewhere.

2). Nifong could not have not known this when he publicly advanced the proposition that condoms were used. Thinking back, he made this statement prior to the election.

I conclude that Nifong is a vengeful, LYING little prick, unethical and unprofessional, which is a downgrade from the assessment I gave of him last night, it not yet then being factually known that he is a damned liar, on top of the rest of his faults and inadequacies.

It's no wonder he was refusing to turn over the discovery. How many other lies that he's told about this case will come to light as the discovery becomes known?


91 posted on 05/19/2006 2:22:24 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Sacajaweau

Drunk person in public (not driving, basically on foot, or passed out on the street or in a public place).


92 posted on 05/19/2006 2:30:00 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

You do know that the judge used to be Durham DA and Nifong's boss, right?


93 posted on 05/19/2006 2:32:10 PM PDT by AmishDude ("They are so stupid. It's breathtaking how stupid they are." -- veronica)
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To: za_claws

No, I think that's tow truck needed, or maybe it's disabled vehicle in the roadway - something to do with that situation, not drunk.


94 posted on 05/19/2006 2:38:23 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: toldyou

;>


95 posted on 05/19/2006 2:39:02 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: AmishDude

Yep, I do. Stephens was followed by Hardin, who also became a judge. Perhaps a judgeship is what Nifong has his eye on, although I wonder if he's seeking higher political office, such as state senator or assemblyman, something like that.


96 posted on 05/19/2006 2:41:37 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: MJY1288

Let em share a cell.


97 posted on 05/19/2006 2:42:26 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Doesn't do much good to vote, they just wind up ignoring you later anyway.)
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To: darbymcgill
Cheshire said in the press conference "single male source"..

I have been listening closely to those statements and I haven't heard them rule out multiple DNA sources found in her. A single male DNA matched something found in her but was there other stuff for which there was no match?

98 posted on 05/19/2006 2:43:41 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Jezebelle

Stephens is protecting his protege. It's disgusting all around.


99 posted on 05/19/2006 2:44:58 PM PDT by AmishDude ("They are so stupid. It's breathtaking how stupid they are." -- veronica)
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To: darbymcgill

So, then, there's no unidentified DNA found in or on her. There's no foreign DNA involved except her BF's. She told the SANE nurse or whomever at the hospital that condoms were not used. She stated that affirmatively, according to Galanter.

Nifong is a liar, then, and an unethical prosecutor for deliberately placing a false statement about the case into the media, and it appears nobody in the great state of North Carolina is going to do a damn thing about it.


100 posted on 05/19/2006 2:45:48 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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