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SELIGMAN: ADDITIONAL MOTION FOR VOLUNTARY DISCOVERY
WRAL ^ | May 17, 2006

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:55 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

http://www.wral.com/dukelacrosse/index.html

(Excerpt) Read more at wral.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: allegations; duke; dukelax; durham; falseallegations; lacrosse; northcarolina; rape
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To: za_claws

Droooooooooooool......

Forget Fox, I can watch a channel of her and Melissa Theuriau (I don't care that I can't understand French; or the fact she's french) 24 7.


721 posted on 05/18/2006 3:40:49 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble; Alia

Remember to always be careful when searching for people on the net.
The names you search on may be more common than you think.

Try searching on your name or others whom you know well enough to distinguish if a post is referring to him or not. You might be surprised how many "name clones" you'll discover.

My husband has a pretty rare last name. We're always the only ones listed in the phonebook, even in large cities of a million people.

Still, his brother (who doesn't have a very common first name either) has a name-twin who lives and works less than 100 miles away.




722 posted on 05/18/2006 3:44:17 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult any conservative into voting for your guy.)
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To: OrinocoJack
lol
Melissa is so popular now she has web sites popping up all over the place devoted for her, I can see the same happening foe Megyn too.
723 posted on 05/18/2006 3:55:50 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: js1138
Most everyone has an answering machine and/or voice mail these days so most calls get caught and logged by the provider.

We STILL don't know whose phone it was, do we? It would seem to be Crystals but I'm sure BOTH Kim and Crystal have TWO phones...one personal one...and one business one paid for by her "Employer". I'm sure the messages on each are VERY different.

724 posted on 05/18/2006 3:57:28 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Rheo

I've been known to talk to myself and that's a good thing since I'm the only one who knows what I'm trying to say. :-)


725 posted on 05/18/2006 4:00:20 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Krodg

Not sure I know what you mean?? :-)


726 posted on 05/18/2006 4:06:38 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: RecallMoran
typing one handed--holding sleeping toddler

I watched 4 grandarlins for months I had to fight to make a post!

727 posted on 05/18/2006 4:09:51 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Peach
Yeah, but why didn't the judge call him on it? Intimidation from the crowd??
728 posted on 05/18/2006 4:13:13 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: RecallMoran

I love toddlers. It was my favorite age with all my kids. That is when they think you hung the moon.

My first grandchild is now 5 months old.. It is so neat to have another baby in the family circle--except this time I can be the "spoiler", LOL! I call him "my little man."


729 posted on 05/18/2006 4:14:44 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: beyond the sea

Wee small hours of the morning.

Remember the Julie London album, "Round Midnight"?


730 posted on 05/18/2006 4:15:40 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Sacajaweau

and one business one [phone] paid for by her "Employer".
__________________________________________

I doubt it. I suspect that the types of businesses she worked for do not provide any benefits.


731 posted on 05/18/2006 4:16:03 PM PDT by JLS
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To: RecallMoran

My 15 year old was my "Surprise!" I was 36 when he was born. Had amnio-They called told me baby is fine. I said "Let's cut to the chase, boy or girl? I have no girl things in my house."

10 years between kids made a world of difference in my parenting. I would look at him and say "Been there, done that, it won't work on me." He is the most grounded of my sons, because of that.


732 posted on 05/18/2006 4:20:26 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Judge Bristles At Defense Requests In Duke Rape Case

POSTED: 3:00 pm EDT May 18, 2006
UPDATED: 5:31 pm EDT May 18, 2006



DURHAM, N.C. -- A judge on Thursday refused to lower the bond for one of three Duke University lacrosse players charged in connection with an alleged rape of a stripper at a lacrosse team party two months ago.


Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., made his initial court appearance before a packed courtroom Thursday afternoon. Seligmann, fellow sophomore Collin Finnerty and recent graduate Dave Evans have been charged with rape and kidnapping after a 27-year-old woman told police she was beaten and raped by three lacrosse players while she performed as an exotic dancer at a March 13 team party.

Defense attorney Kirk Osborn made a series of requests at the 25-minute hearing, including asking District Judge Donald Stephens to lower Seligmann's $400,000 bond.

"We have a box of material from senators, congressmen, friends that says he's not a flight risk," Osborn said.

Stephens denied the request, noting Seligmann already is out on bond and that the figure is appropriate for the charges he faces.

District Attorney Mike Nifong told Stephenson that he has turned over 1,278 pages of documents, two videotapes and a CD-ROM to Osborn and other defense attorneys to provide them with evidence the Durham Police Department and his office have gathered in the case so far.

But Osborn requested that a defense expert have immediate access to a cell phone believed to belong to the accuser. The phone was found outside the house where the March 13 party occurred the morning after the party and was turned over to police, he said.

"We want access to it before evidence is lost," Osborn said. "The data on a phone disappears when the battery loses its charge."

Stephens told Nifong to work with the defense and the court to ensure all parties had equal access to the information stored in the phone.

The judge also complied with defense requests to record all court proceedings in the case and to have police maintain all notes they have taken or will take.

But Stephens clearly bristled when Osborn asked to have free access to law enforcement records.

"I'm not going to sign an order allowing you to go rummage through all law enforcement records," he said. "I'm not going to order things that I believe will be done voluntarily."

When Osborn said he made the request because "this is a serious case," the judge cut him off.

"I deal with serious cases every day," he said. "This case is not going to jump ahead of the line of all of the other cases that we have here or be handled in any other way."

Seligmann's next court date was set for the week of June 19, and Osborn said he wants to move the case along as quickly as possible.

"We want a trial as fast as we can," Osborn said. "This young kid wants to go to school in the fall, and he can't until this is resolved."

But Nifong said he plans to tie the cases against the three lacrosse players together, so speeding one through the pretrial process wouldn't expedite the entire case.

http://www.nbc17.com/news/9239758/detail.html


733 posted on 05/18/2006 4:20:46 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Peach

Nifong may has well of said "The dog at the phone."


734 posted on 05/18/2006 4:21:22 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I doubt Crystal or Kim wanted the cops taking incoming calls, LOL!

Ten or fifteen years ago that is exactly what was happening. The Durham Police were running a prostitution ring.

735 posted on 05/18/2006 4:22:14 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Rheo

Geez, the Queen goofs again! I didn't mean you were talking to yourself because others wouldn't understand...I was poking fun at myself!! Everyone knows I make mistakes when trying to post...I'm going back to lurking.


736 posted on 05/18/2006 4:23:57 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

at = ate
or "et" as my Grandafther would say
i.e. "The dog et the phone."


737 posted on 05/18/2006 4:25:37 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Grandbabies add a whole new dimension to loving. I now have seven. The eldest is 25, the youngest (who just left my house) is 13 months. (Yep, I'm old.) What very special blessings they are, each and every one.

I don't post often on this thread, but I read every post. We just happened to be in Durham on business when this occurred. I've been following it ever since.

IMHO......those boys are being railroaded. They definitely must get a change of venue. As Greta said, "a hostile environment".

If anyone has a "ping" list, I would like to be added.


738 posted on 05/18/2006 4:28:42 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: ladyjane
Ten or fifteen years ago that is exactly what was happening. The Durham Police were running a prostitution ring.

Why didn't the DA at the time do something about it? Oh wait, the DA at the time was Judge Stephens.

739 posted on 05/18/2006 4:29:07 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: Howlin; Rushmore Rocks

Howlin,
Can you add Rushmore Rocks to the ping list?

That should do it :-)


740 posted on 05/18/2006 4:32:01 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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