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Posted on 05/11/2006 9:17:59 PM PDT by TexKat
DURHAM, N.C. -- A Duke lacrosse player whose DNA may match tissue found under the fake fingernails of an exotic dancer who claims she was raped was identified in a photo lineup with 90 percent certainty, sources tell NBC-17.
The Durham Herald-Sun reported Thursday tissue found under the accuser's acrylic fingernail came from the same genetic pool and was "consistent" with the bodily makeup of one of 46 lacrosse players who gave DNA samples for testing.
The paper cites several sources and said scientists also ruled out a possible match with any of the other 45 students, according to the sources.
If accurate, the fingernail tissue match would offer the first DNA evidence potentially linking the dancer and an alleged attacker.
But because a complete DNA pattern was not obtained from the tissue, it was not possible to match it with the nearly 100 percent certainty that DNA results usually offer, the sources added.
90 Percent Certainty
Now, NBC-17 has learned that the player is not one of the two already accused in the case -- Reade Seligmann, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, of Garden City, N.Y. He is, however, a player that the alleged rape victim picked out in a police lineup with 90 percent certainty.
The 27-year-old North Carolina Central University student told police she was beaten and raped by three lacrosse players while she performed at a March 13 team party. She said she clawed at the players in an effort to fight them off.
Never Applied?
Defense attorneys claim, however, that nothing about the reported possible DNA match means anything to the case if you look at the type of fingernails, where they were found, and if you look at a picture of the accuser's hand shortly after she arrived at the party.
According to defense attorneys, police found four stick-on acrylic fingernails in a trashcan at 610 Buchanan Street, the house where the party took place. The tissue connected to the possible DNA match was found under one of those fingernails.
But defense attorneys said the third player accused lived at the house and it is no surprise that trace amounts of his DNA could be found inside his own trashcan. They also said they don't believe the type of fingernails that were found -- the kind that are applied with an adhesive strip -- actually ripped off during an attack. They don't believe the fingernails were ever applied and they say they have pictures to prove it.
NBC-17 has seen a picture of the dancer's hand at the house when she performed her dance routine. It appears that long, fake fingernails were on some of her fingers in that photo, but not all of them.
Other photos show what defense lawyers believe is red fingernail polish on the walls of the house and on the railing outside the house. They believe the accuser was painting and applying her nails while at the party.
Defense attorneys admit that none of them have seen the DNA report the Herald Sun article is based upon, but they said if District Attorney Mike Nifong has the DNA report, their clients are entitled to see it.
Accuser's Father Responds
The accuser's father called reports of a DNA break in the case long overdue.
"I wasn't surprised to hear that. I feel like we should have learned it before," he said.
Kim Roberts, another dancer who performed at the party where the alleged attack took place, paid an emotional visit to the accuser's parents on Thursday.
"It was real emotional -- she was crying, my wife was crying. She said that she was sorry she left (outside) the house before my daughter did," the accuser's father said.
Authorities said they would know what the DNA shows by early next week.
ABC radio is reporting that the semen found on the stripper belonged to her boyfriend. (Just thought I'd repeat that)
I see you just joined FR yesterday.
Friend of the stripper or what?
Nifong better think twice before indicting Evans on this flimsy evidence.
No, we haven't.
Which boyfriend? ;oD
I thought I'd repeat another freepers report that ABC was reporting that the semen was her boyfriends. I'm sure she has a LOT of "friends". LOL
m didn't even thank me for the ping to the post. Hmmmmph.
Check out the comments to others, a little later in the thread.
Okay, I thought I knew a lot, but I do not know how one does that.
Early on it was reported that she said during the rape exam that she had not had consensual sex for three weeks. Later I read that she said five days.
No you're "the strongest man at last"
We've been talking too much of what is said by the press on Blind Faith. Sorry couldn't help myself.
Traffic, John Barleycorn
There were three men came out of the west
Their fortunes for to try,
And these three men made a solemn vow
John Barleycorn must die.
They've ploughed, they've sown, they've harrowed him in
Threw clods upon his head,
And these three men made a solemn vow
John Barleycorn was dead.
They let him lie for a very long time
Till the rains from Heaven did fall,
And little Sir John sprung up his head
And so amazed them all.
They've let him stand till Midsummer's day,
Till he looked both pale and wan.
And little Sir John's grown a long, long beard
And so become a man.
They've hired men with the scythes so sharp,
To cut him off at the knee,
They've rolled him and tied him by the waist,
Serving him most barbarously.
They've hired men with the sharp pitchforks,
Who pricked him through the heart
And the loader, he has served him worse than that,
For he's bound him to the cart.
They've wheeled him around and around a field,
Till they came unto a barn,
And there they made a solemn oath
On poor John Barleycorn
They've hired men with the crab-tree sticks,
To cut him skin from bone,
And the miller, he has served him worse than that,
For he's ground him between two stones.
And little Sir John and the nut brown bowl
And his brandy in the glass
And little Sir John and the nut brown bowl
Proved the strongest man at last
The huntsman, he can't hunt the fox
Nor so loudly to blow his horn,
And the tinker, he can't mend kettle nor pots
without a little barley corn
semen vs male genetic material....
Cheshire parsed that carefully, twice. "xx" and "xy" distinguish male from female, I believe, in any human cells. "Male genetic material" could be loose epithelial cells, smegma, saliva, a hangnail, etc, etc, etc, or semen.....so far, I've seen nothing that identifies whatever biological material revealed the profile of this as yet unidentified non-lacrosse player.
Peob just a nit-pick thought, but I can't imagine why he wouldn't just say 'semen' if that is what it is.....
I remember the whole "oral sex" craze with the Dems in re Bill Clinton and Monica. They kept using that phrase over and over in the MSM. ("Oh, it was "just" oral sex. Oral sex is not "sex" "). And now there are problems with young students doing "oral sex".
Hmph.
I am not a severe critic of the grand jury system, and it does serve a good purpose. However, when people are being indicted on flimsy evidence, the system's fairness needs to be questioned and one wonders whether it's time to place restrictions on it.
One other disturbing question I have read on the various threads is similar to this: "In how many other jurisdictions in this nation do they have runaway District Attorneys who use the grand jury system to persecute instead of prosecute?"
When I first encountered a post by Sir John Barleycorn's, I wondered if he was referencing Jack London's book (which I read circa 1977).
He said, "This man is NOT a university student." (Earlier he had said that it was not a Duke University student.)
Ha!
I guess that answers the question about who called Bob Bennett, huh?
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